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#1252 Aug 09 2016 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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Eh, dead loved ones don't really cause a sense of rational thought in people. Irrational thought four years and ten investigations later is another story all together, though.

I won't blame the parents. Their son died and they want a simple, one-point explanation of why so they'll have something to rail against. Same thing as parents of children with autism spectrum disorder convincing themselves that if they could just fight against vaccines, it wouldn't happen again. It's not at all rational and I don't condone or support it but I can understand where it's coming from. Clinton is the "vaccine" to their Jenny McCarthy.

Now, the lawyer who is convincing them that this is a lawsuit that'll go anywhere and manipulating their hopes of closure for political points... that guy is a dick.

Edited, Aug 9th 2016 11:07am by Jophiel


Understandable, but to blame her as opposed to the POTUS makes it seem illegitimate. If you're going to attack the top, then you attack the person ultimately responsible for foreign policies. Well, that's what the GOP was doing before the 2012 election. Conveniently how the attacks 100% switched to HRC after President Obama won re-election.

#1253 Aug 09 2016 at 11:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I'm not saying that it's a rationally sound argument. I'm saying that people who've suffered a traumatic loss often seek a simple direct reason for why it happened (even when one doesn't exist) and these parents, likely assisted by news of the GOP focus on Clinton, have settled on Clinton as the direct cause of their child's death.

Saying that I don't blame them is a little simplistic itself, of course. In a perfect world, they'd understand reason. But I don't believe that their reasons are politically motivated in a "We love Republicans and hate Democrats" sort of way but rather they just want to stop Clinton. If the administration had been Republican, we'd be looking at another Cindy Sheehan instead.
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#1254 Aug 09 2016 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Yeah, I'm not saying that it's a rationally sound argument. I'm saying that people who've suffered a traumatic loss often seek a simple direct reason for why it happened (even when one doesn't exist) and these parents, likely assisted by news of the GOP focus on Clinton, have settled on Clinton as the direct cause of their child's death.

Saying that I don't blame them is a little simplistic itself, of course. In a perfect world, they'd understand reason. But I don't believe that their reasons are politically motivated in a "We love Republicans and hate Democrats" sort of way but rather they just want to stop Clinton. If the administration had been Republican, we'd be looking at another Cindy Sheehan instead.
People blamed President Bush for all that went wrong with war. That's what people do when they irrationally blame someone, they tend to blame the President. I would argue that a notable amount of people didn't even know that there was a "Secretary of State" before Benghazi. So, while I understand the irrational blame game, choosing Clinton only sounds partisan to me.
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Disagree but, even by the standards of this place, it seems like a dumb thing to have an argument about.
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#1256 Aug 10 2016 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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Liberal media censorship!
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#1257 Aug 10 2016 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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To paraphrase the reaction from the entire Eve Online community: "no one really gives a **** what Vile Rat's mom is doing these days." Think the mods there are way beyond being tired of nuking posts related to this whole debacle. There's have been a few a day popping up on r/eve lately, and they're dissapearing pretty fast. Smiley: rolleyes
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#1258 Aug 10 2016 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Pretty much. Even the Khan speech at the DNC would have been a one-night story had Trump not turned it into a week long debacle.
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#1259 Aug 10 2016 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well at the very least I don't think this will have legs much longer, since we're on to telling people to shoot vote against Clinton now.

That man has a way with words...
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#1260 Aug 10 2016 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Pretty much. Even the Khan speech at the DNC would have been a one-night story had Trump not turned it into a week long debacle.


And because of Trump we all know that Hillary trotted out a radical sharia lawyer who supports sharia in the US and even defends radical muslims and helps them gain entry into the US. We might know more but the radical muslim deleted his business site.

We also know that Hillary likes to have mass murderers fathers on stage with her.
#1261 Aug 10 2016 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Well at the very least I don't think this will have legs much longer, since we're on to telling people to shoot vote against Clinton now.

That man has a way with words...



Hillary did ask why she should drop out before Obama is assassinated back in 2008.
#1262 Aug 10 2016 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Well at the very least I don't think this will have legs much longer, since we're on to telling people to shoot vote against Clinton now.

That man has a way with words...



Hillary did ask why she should drop out before Obama is assassinated back in 2008.


She actually said that...
#1263 Aug 10 2016 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Liberal media censorship!


Well they aren't talking about the assassination of the DNC guy who Assange says is the source that showed the world Hillary stole the nomination.
#1264 Aug 10 2016 at 12:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Varus is trying to get the most posts in by just quoting and agreeing with himself Smiley: laugh
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#1265 Aug 10 2016 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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Sure.
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#1266 Aug 10 2016 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Yeah, I'm not saying that it's a rationally sound argument. I'm saying that people who've suffered a traumatic loss often seek a simple direct reason for why it happened (even when one doesn't exist) and these parents, likely assisted by news of the GOP focus on Clinton, have settled on Clinton as the direct cause of their child's death.

Saying that I don't blame them is a little simplistic itself, of course. In a perfect world, they'd understand reason. But I don't believe that their reasons are politically motivated in a "We love Republicans and hate Democrats" sort of way but rather they just want to stop Clinton. If the administration had been Republican, we'd be looking at another Cindy Sheehan instead.
People blamed President Bush for all that went wrong with war. That's what people do when they irrationally blame someone, they tend to blame the President. I would argue that a notable amount of people didn't even know that there was a "Secretary of State" before Benghazi. So, while I understand the irrational blame game, choosing Clinton only sounds partisan to me.


And how long did the media cover that nut bag mom who protested outside of W's ranch? Cindi Sheehan I believe she was called.

Fact is Hillary lied to the parents about whey there child died.. More than one have said so.
#1267 Aug 10 2016 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Varus is trying to get the most posts in by just quoting and agreeing with himself Smiley: laugh


Well you psycho's won't even discuss it....just like liberals.
#1268 Aug 10 2016 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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Okay.
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#1269 Aug 10 2016 at 12:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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takeitdown wrote:
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Well at the very least I don't think this will have legs much longer, since we're on to telling people to shoot vote against Clinton now.

That man has a way with words...



Hillary did ask why she should drop out before Obama is assassinated back in 2008.


She actually said that...
We should burn her at the stake! Smiley: mad
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#1270 Aug 10 2016 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
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How do you know she weighs as much as a duck?
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Well you psycho's won't even discuss it....just like liberals.

I thought we were liberals who wouldn't discuss it, just like psychos.
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#1272 Aug 10 2016 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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How do you know she weighs as much as a duck?
She doesn't, but I heard her pantsuit does...
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#1273 Aug 10 2016 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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Those pantsuits have got to weight more than a duck. They look starchy and uncomfortable as hell.
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#1274 Aug 10 2016 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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I dunno, I've seen some pretty fat ducks. To say nothing of that giant inflatable one that toured the world. Does that one count?
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#1275 Aug 10 2016 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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But inflatable ducks are full of air, and air always floats to the top, therefor an inflatable duck, regardless of size, would weigh equal to a regular duck. That's just science, meng.
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#1276 Aug 10 2016 at 1:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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What if we just put Hillary inside the giant inflatable duck? That might be an easier way to do it; two birds with one stone and such.
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