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#27 Jul 24 2015 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I have less free time because commuting is, no joke, a half time job for me. I spend about 20 hours a week just commuting back and forth to work, haha


Funnily enough, that's the kind of arrangement I'd look for if I lived with Smasharoo as well.

As it is, I spend a mere 12 hours on the train every week.
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#28 Jul 24 2015 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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I work from home nowadays. It's the next best thing to not working at all.

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#29 Jul 24 2015 at 1:12 PM Rating: Good
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I am super jealous.

Can you just slack off a bunch? Like, I could work part time and be as productive as my office, but as I'm stuck there anyway I don't really see the point.
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#30 Jul 24 2015 at 1:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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A lot of my "work" involves being on the phone with people listening to them explain a problem already familiar to me (but which they are convinced is unique to them and must be explained at length). So while they're going on, I can do... other things.

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#31 Jul 24 2015 at 1:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira's some sort of phone sex therapist.
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#32 Jul 24 2015 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, close enough.
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#33 Jul 24 2015 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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Instead of a *****, I have the jormungandr growing out of my pelvis. What do I do?
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#34 Jul 24 2015 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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Jormungandr in your pants? With industrial strength Thor, we can help you get a foot off the ground.
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#35 Jul 24 2015 at 2:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kavekkk wrote:
Instead of a *****, I have the jormungandr growing out of my pelvis. What do I do?



Find a nice jormungoose.
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#36 Jul 24 2015 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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Instead of a *****, I have the jormungandr growing out of my pelvis. What do I do?



Find a nice jormungoose.
Wow! You really are good at this!

I spend more time doing actual work at work, and some time on reddit, which I find is kind of like eating at the local Korean restaurant. Dabble in some things, avoid others, and don't go into the dark corners at all. The better moderated subs are fine. /r/science, /r/history, a couple of the gaming subs and a few others.

For instance, I learned today from reddit's front page that Ted Cruz thinks Captain Kirk was a Republican. I also learned, but not from reddit, this shocking tidbit: Ted Cruz thinks another politician lied to him. A politician lied. Amazing. This is going into my diary.

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#37 Jul 28 2015 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, that's freaking retarded, isn't it? Most mods are made to stand up.


And for a reason, since tanks tend to leak if placed on their side. RDAs, obviously, even moreso (less to leak I suppose though). So you'd think that someone designing a rectangular shaped mod, with internal (non-removable) battery, and internal tank (rather than screwed on top, so basically just the tip sticks out the top), would have stopped and thought: "Hey. Maybe we should put the usb charging port on the side so that this thing can be charged standing upright?"

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I forgot about it because it has a removeable battery and it's generally accepted that these batteries are better off charged in a dedicated charger instead of in the mod itself.


Yeah, and you get the benefit of being able to rotate batteries though the charger rather than have to set the entire mod somewhere to charge. And it's generally easier/cheaper to replace batteries as they die.

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Vaping is really a study in engineering and electricity; I had exactly zero knowledge of Ohm's Law before this. There's an entire sub-forum about coil builds; for example, building a 28/24 five-wrap Clapton coil to .3Ω at 50W.


Please tell me that's at least a quad coil configuration (and you're counting the total wattage applied to the entire mod). Cause... 50W on one coil will like light your wick on fire. I couldn't tell you the names of products and whatnot, but I am familiar with Ohm's law and how it's applied in this case. Interesting math on that. About 3.8V, which means you're drawing about 13A off the battery (which is a serious load). Assuming quad coils, that's still 12.5W to each wick, which is on the high end of safe to use (and you'd better have a good juice flow for that, and take short vapes).

For those not familiar with the subject, a basic single coil mod would typically utilize say a 9 wrap 30 gauge wire (which, depending on post configuration will typically result in about 1.5 Ohms). Target Watts (for most sane people) is about 8-9W. Standard Li-ion battery output is 3.7V, and most standard variable voltage devices can step that up or down from 3V to 6V. In this case, if you wanted that ideal 8-9W heat to your wick, you'd set your Volts to 3.4 to 3.7 ((V^2)/Oms=W)). That setting will result in a (A=W/V) a 2.3A to 2.4A draw on the battery.

Which is pretty easy and basic, and any $40 mod can attain it. It's easy on the batteries, and easy to rebuild/maintain. The kind of build mentioned earlier, is pretty far on the hardcore range of things. As you said, interesting from an engineering standpoint, but not really so practical.

I did find it amusing reading that recent (really really flawed) experiment where they were able to produce toxic fumes by setting the voltage to a very high setting (resulting in Wattage levels as high as the coil mentioned above, but re-heated too frequently so as to ensure wick burning). When asked why he did that, despite several previous studies on the subject that established that precise method as incorrect, his answer was that he sees guys vaping and producing massive clouds of vapor, and the only way he could think to do that was to increase the watts to the coil. Apparently, it never occurred to him to ask those vapers how they did it. Because if he had, they would have shown him the simple solution of running multiple coils of wire. Capillary action on each wick is constant per wick, not some fixed quantity for the entire device. Thus, you can produce four times the total vapor at a safe Watt setting per coil (a setting that wont dry out the wick and produce harmful fumes) by simply having four coils (and four wicks, one per coil). You'll draw four times the Amps from the battery, but the resulting effect produces those huge clouds, without burning the wicks.

So... really bad science.

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#38 Jul 28 2015 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Nah, most of the high-powered vapers are running upwards of 4+ volts, and will draw 20+ amps. Yes, that does get into the "burst into acidic fire and destroy your home" range. Quad-coils aren't really all that common, but dual coils are by far. Most new attys coming out are specifically designed for dual coils. I have some but don't care much for it. I run single coils, usually around 1.5-1.8Ω at 9-18 watts, or 3.9-4.5 volts. Those are just guesstimates, mind you; I stay out of torch-your-face-off territory.

Those tests are bogus, I agree; it's like the MythBusters trying to re-create an expected result by any means. Formaldehyde in vapor? Sure, if you intentionally abuse the device and run far more power than the coil and wick can handle just to ignite it.
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#39 Jul 28 2015 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, and the New Hotness is temperature controlled mods. These will only go up to a user-specified temperature (anywhere from 350 to 600F, I guess) by controlling the power to the coil based on variable resistance. They can only be used with nickel or titanium wires due to their known resistance ranges, as opposed to kanthal which is a more or less constant resistance over the temperature range. Thereby eliminating burning wicks and juices; if the tank is empty and the wick dries up the heat needed to vaporize any residual juice lowers and the TC mods will drop off the power accordingly until there is no juice left to heat.
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#40 Jul 28 2015 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
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This is a quick Google search for "28/24 five-wrap Clapton coil". I only build 32/28 Claptons because that's what I have available that my mods can handle; my Sigelei mini goes up to 30W and I've made .4Ω single coils running at 20 watts or so.

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#41 Jul 28 2015 at 8:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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So I've found the new most annoying thing to hear people talk about. Surpassing artisinal beer, car performance modifications, etc.
#42 Jul 28 2015 at 8:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Back in my day, we used to just light shit on fire and inhale whatever fumes came off of it.
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#43 Jul 28 2015 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
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So I've found the new most annoying thing to hear people talk about. Surpassing artisinal beer, car performance modifications, etc.

Yup!

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Back in my day, we used to just light shit on fire and inhale whatever fumes came off of it.

Still do that, just a bit more selective on what shit I light and inhale.
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#44 Jul 29 2015 at 7:42 AM Rating: Good
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#46 Jul 30 2015 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, you have more time away from Zam than most of us. I suspect you should have several arias knocked out by now.
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Debalic wrote:
This is a quick Google search for "28/24 five-wrap Clapton coil". I only build 32/28 Claptons because that's what I have available that my mods can handle; my Sigelei mini goes up to 30W and I've made .4Ω single coils running at 20 watts or so.


Ah. That explains it (didn't have a clue what a Clapton Coil was until you provided a picture). You're basically using an incredibly inefficient heating element in order to spread the heat out more (and thus avoid burning the wick). With a normal single wire coil, 30W (or 20W for that matter) would torch the wick. By wrapping a coil around the coil that's forming the electrical path, and having the wick contact that coil instead of the primary one, you're basically insulating the wick. At the cost of having to generate a heck of a lot more power to produce the same heat.

I'm not sure how much better this is than just using a single wire at lower Wattage though. I'm sure there's a surface area advantage, but again, at a pretty massive cost in extra Watts and Amps. I guess as an alternative to multiple coil builds, it kinda does make sense. Maybe.
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#48 Jul 30 2015 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Nah, I can easily build and use a single coil in the 20+ watt range. Proper wicking, airflow and juice thickness is a big part; I can easily build a single coil that will take 20-30W without bursting into flame. The wicking has to be able to keep juice fed into the coil or else it will singe, but too much juice will boil and spit. The airflow has to be enough to keep the coil cool, but too much will fill your mouth or lungs too quickly and choke you.

Claptons and other exotic coils are build for the surface area advantage, yes, but there is also an adventurous and artistic element to it. You're modding, you're seeing how far you can push the envelope, and some of those builds are flat out works of art.

On the other hand, I've also spent years building mid-ohm coils (1.5-1.8) to work on fixed-voltage batteries (3.7v) which are incredibly tiny, usually smaller than 1/8" inner diameter.
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