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#202 Jun 26 2015 at 1:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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No one cares! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! *dance dance* Hooray for 'merica!

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I'd also say that we should totally form a protest and boycott of ZAM until it lifts the filter on "gay" but I doubt anyone would notice.


Just report them to Gay Rights and Free Speech Advocates and let them do the work.
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#204 Jun 26 2015 at 1:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Scalia cares Smiley: frown
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#205 Jun 26 2015 at 1:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Scalia cares Smiley: frown


He's 79...what he cares about isn't going to relevant for much longer.

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He's 79...what he cares about isn't going to relevant for much longer.


I'm pretty sure Vader has to through him into some sort of reactor core while lightning trails from his dying hands, so being how that's fairly unlikely he'll probably be around for a while.
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Metaphor. Revelation was almost certainly written as a coded message of hope to Jewish-Christians following the fall of Jerusalem and about the desired fall of the Roman Empire.


How do you reconcile the desire of such a prominent Biblical writer to see Rome fall with the fact that Rome was tops?
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#209 Jun 26 2015 at 2:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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So I'm curious, @gbaji, did you actually think the court would vote no to A and B, or was that just how you thought they should vote?
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#210 Jun 26 2015 at 3:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Of course, Kennedy may certainly look at it differently. He's a bit of a wild card.

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How do you reconcile the desire of such a prominent Biblical writer to see Rome fall with the fact that Rome was tops?

Well, he'd be lion if he told you there were no issues between Rome and the Jesus crew prior to Constantine.
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So I'm curious, @gbaji, did you actually think the court would vote no to A and B, or was that just how you thought they should vote?

Last couple days haven't been good for his side. I'm sure he has a really big project at work that'll keep him from posting for a while.

Edited, Jun 26th 2015 5:19pm by Jophiel
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Last couple days haven't been good for his side. I'm sure he has a really big project at work that'll keep him from posting for a while.

Hmm, honestly this is a pretty great outcome politically for the GOP. They don't really give a flying one about either of these issues, any actual 'win' on them would have harmed them politically. Running in states where people had no subsidies would have been a disaster, but they've been rescued from that. Running nationally as the candidate who had to continue to hem and haw and "it's up to the states" about SSM would have been toxic as well. Now they can just peddle the old 'activist judges' chestnut and pretend they'll 'repeal' ACA.
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#214 Jun 26 2015 at 5:40 PM Rating: Default
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gbaji wrote:
Things gbaji thinks about SSM.


No one cares! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! *dance dance* Hooray for 'merica!

Nexa


Today it's something like SSM. You cheer as judicial precedents are set which will almost certainly trample something you care about in the future. So congratulations. Short sighted as hell, but congratulations.

Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Sigh...
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#215 Jun 26 2015 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
So I'm curious, @gbaji, did you actually think the court would vote no to A and B, or was that just how you thought they should vote?


How they should, obviously. It's become increasingly clear that the Supreme Court no longer actually rules on the law anymore, but how they think the public will view the results. What they're doing is making it very clear that this third branch of our government serves no purpose anymore. By just rubber stamping social policy for the Left, they're just writing themselves out of the equation. These two rulings have only solidified this opinion on the right. Sadly, there's only three ways to fix the problem, and two of them are pretty extreme.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
So I'm curious, @gbaji, did you actually think the court would vote no to A and B, or was that just how you thought they should vote?

Last couple days haven't been good for his side. I'm sure he has a really big project at work that'll keep him from posting for a while.


Um... Actually, I was out all day yesterday at a big group work thingie and was busy today until just now. So yeah.
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#217 Jun 26 2015 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Hah! I will say this, it looks like Alito has been reading my posts or something:

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For millennia, marriage was inextricably linked to the one thing that only an opposite-sex couple can do: procreate. Adherents to different schools of philosophy use different terms to explain why society should formalize marriage and attach special benefits and obligations to persons who marry. Their basic argument is that States formalize and promote marriage, unlike other fulfilling human relationships, in order to encourage potentially procreative conduct to take place within a lasting unit that has long been thought to provide the best atmosphere for raising children.


I practically copyrighted the phrase "potentially procreative". But hey. It's all about hating gays, right?

Again, I can't help but see the bigger issue. It's not really about gay rights, or whether you like this group or that group. It's about the change in how we determine constitutionality that is the problem. This ruling is the court basically saying "it's (un)constitutional if we want it to be". In their haste to be on the "right side of the issue" they've done irreparable harm to our judicial process IMO.
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#218 Jun 26 2015 at 6:31 PM Rating: Good
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#219 Jun 26 2015 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
I can't help but see the bigger issue.
Your needing to come up with a new thinly veiled excuse to discriminate against people marginally different from you isn't all that big of an issue.

Oh, and just in case you really need to continue, just keep in mind:
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Edited, Jun 26th 2015 8:54pm by lolgaxe
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#220 Jun 26 2015 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Hah! I will say this, it looks like Alito has been reading my posts or something:

Justice Alito wrote:
For millennia, marriage was inextricably linked to the one thing that only an opposite-*** couple can do: procreate. Adherents to different schools of philosophy use different terms to explain why society should formalize marriage and attach special benefits and obligations to persons who marry. Their basic argument is that States formalize and promote marriage, unlike other fulfilling human relationships, in order to encourage potentially procreative conduct to take place within a lasting unit that has long been thought to provide the best atmosphere for raising children.


I practically copyrighted the phrase "potentially procreative". But hey. It's all about hating gays, right?

Every person on the planet that's not sterile is "potentially procreative." But hey, let's twist ourselves into legitimizing our dislike of gays, right?
#221 Jun 26 2015 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Today it's something like SSM. You cheer as judicial precedents are set which will almost certainly trample something you care about in the future. So congratulations. Short sighted as ****, but congratulations.

Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Sigh...

SCOTUS tramples something someone cares about every day, based on the justices' partisan whims. Nothing has changed.
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gbaji wrote:
Sadly, there's only three ways to fix the problem, and two of them are pretty extreme.

So, wait... is "Stop being whiny bitches" one of the two extreme solutions or is it the easy one?

Rhetoric about "Five people in black robes!!!" aside, this ruling came on the shoulders of circuit court decisions in favor in the Forth, Seventh, Ninth and Tenth districts. And numerous rulings at the district and state level. It was only a 2-1 decision in the Sixth that over turned four additional pro-SSM rulings which finally bumped this to the Supreme Court (and because the ACLU decided to get it over with rather than seek an en banc ruling). It took years for it to hit the Supreme Court because they wouldn't grant certiorari until there was finally a split at the appellate level. The total number of Circuit Court of Appeals justices ruling on the cases was eleven finding a constitutional protection versus four dissenting. I won't even bother trying to count all the lower level judges ruling in favor. This wasn't "OMG Kennedy decided to make history" but a decision made agreeing with the great majority of other judges ruling on this, appointed by both parties and previously thought of as being just fine until they make a decision you don't agree with and then everyone flips their shit and starts hooting.

If you want to refuse to admit that you were wrong and would rather nurse your wounds with petulant mutterings about "extreme solutions", knock yourself out. Or you could always, you know, grow up -- but I can see the attractiveness of your current solution.
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You cheer as judicial precedents are set which will almost certainly trample something you care about in the future. So congratulations. Short sighted as ****, but congratulations.

Corporations are people!
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#224 Jun 26 2015 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
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Gay corporations can finally get married!


Edited, Jun 26th 2015 8:22pm by trickybeck
#225 Jun 26 2015 at 7:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Running nationally as the candidate who had to continue to hem and haw and "it's up to the states" about SSM would have been toxic as well.

Don't underestimate the GOP's ability to look like complete asses.
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Hours after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same sex marriage across the country on Friday, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott told his department directors to not take action against any state officials who act or refuse to act on account of their "sincere religious belief."

"This order applies to any agency decision, including but not limited to granting or denying benefits, managing agency employees, entering or enforcing agency contracts, licensing and permitting decisions, or enforcing state laws and regulations," Abbott wrote

Texas can deny married couples their state benefits because... Jesus!
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#226 Jun 26 2015 at 8:08 PM Rating: Good
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For all the talk about tradition, none of these people are leaving the country on wooden boats filled with bibles, plague blankets, and little else.
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