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#127 Jan 10 2015 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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Conservatives are evolutionary dead weight, the clumps of hair and dead skin cells that clog up the shower drain of progress.

I'm not saying we should implement a eugenics programme to stop them breeding, I'm leaving that to inference.
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#128 Jan 10 2015 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't remember Gbaji following Smash around for a month, calling him "Master" and praising his wisdom. Man, conservatives sure aren't very good at honoring their pledges and commitments, huh?

Anyone can tell that when Gabji is wrong that's a little thing called "satire" (look it up sometime!), and when he's right...well, I assume we'll probably find out someday what that's like.
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#129 Jan 10 2015 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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I feel like gbaji is intensely psychologically unhealthy for all of us. Arguing with him is like jerking off the bit of the brain that's sure you're always right and that the world is exactly as you believe.
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#130 Jan 10 2015 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I feel like gbaji is intensely psychologically unhealthy for all of us. Arguing with him is like jerking off the bit of the brain that's sure you're always right and that the world is exactly as you believe.

Probably true. On the other hand, if you believe him to be genuine, it likely goes a long way to diminishing Dunning Kruger effects where we would otherwise assume no one that stupid and willfully ignorant could possibly exist. I'm still not sold that he's genuine, mind you.
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#131 Jan 10 2015 at 2:50 PM Rating: Default
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Gbaji wrote:

Probably true. On the other hand, if you believe him to be genuine, it likely goes a long way to diminishing Dunning Kruger effects where we would otherwise assume no one that stupid and willfully ignorant could possibly exist. I'm still not sold that he's genuine, mind you.
I think that is partially true. In this case, I think he is genuine.
#132 Jan 12 2015 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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I feel like gbaji is intensely psychologically unhealthy for all of us. Arguing with him is like jerking off the bit of the brain that's sure you're always right and that the world is exactly as you believe.

Psychologically unhealthy? Nah, He's just a quality control tool.

Occasionally gbaji will be right. When he is, will you recognize it and acknowledge it?
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#133 Jan 12 2015 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Occasionally gbaji will be right.

Very very very occasionally. Occasionally I find a ruby in a bag of carrots.
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#134 Jan 12 2015 at 8:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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#135 Jan 12 2015 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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Broken clock, correct twice a day, etc.
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#136 Jan 12 2015 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Holy fuck, that was like seeing an albino Sumatran rhino walking down the street in front of the house. I may never be the same.

Edited, Jan 12th 2015 1:52pm by Smasharoo
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#137 Jan 12 2015 at 2:50 PM Rating: Default
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Occasionally gbaji will be right. When he is, will you recognize it and acknowledge it?
I will agree with him, which doesn't necessarily means that he's right as we both could be wrong.
#138 Jan 12 2015 at 3:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Joph is clearly some kind of fucking forum wizard. Do you remember every single one of your posts?
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Well, I know how to type "Gbaji is right" into a search bar.
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#140 Jan 12 2015 at 3:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nice cover. Smiley: winkSmiley: nod
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#141 Jan 12 2015 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd like to hear more of this... other forum.
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#142 Jan 13 2015 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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#143 Jan 13 2015 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I came to this exact same decision in 2008 when he swore up and down that Obama must hate America because he didn't wear a flag pin. In all seriousness, no irony, Gbaji stated explicitly that he could think of no reason why Obama wouldn't wear a flag pin except that he was anti-American.


Um... That's some incredibly broad definition of "explicitly" you've got there. There's a massive gap between "not believing in the innate goodness of the US" and "anti-American". It's just funny how often this sort of excluded middle logic results in Strawman claims being aimed attributed to me.

You even took the time to find the old thread and link to it, but failed to realize that I didn't actually say what you were claiming?
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#144 Jan 13 2015 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh. And it's always fun to see when we've entered the "make fun of gbaji because we can't actually counter his arguments". It's laughably predictable guys. I always wonder if people who resort to that actually feel better about themselves, or if they know that it's an empty victory, at best.
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I have no real idea what your argument is; something about the exact moment where people started working for an hourly wage or somesuch. Honestly, I don't really care either much less care about "countering" it. I did have a bit of fun noticing your atrocious attempts at making an argument which came down to a combination of "Well, Wiki sorta said it", "My roommate said so!" and "Go ask a professor because I don't have to defend this".

But that's neither here nor there towards noticing that you reneged on your agreement with Smash regarding the 2008 elections.
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#146 Jan 13 2015 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no real idea what your argument is; something about the exact moment where people started working for an hourly wage or somesuch. Honestly, I don't really care either much less care about "countering" it.


And yet, you cared enough to jump on me for daring to tell Smash that he was wrong. Do you guys have like a secret love thing going on or something?

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I did have a bit of fun noticing your atrocious attempts at making an argument which came down to a combination of "Well, Wiki sorta said it", "My roommate said so!" and "Go ask a professor because I don't have to defend this".


Smash claimed that hourly wages (including overtime) only exist because governments force employers to pay this way instead of just a salary and that in the absence of such labor regulations, all employers would just pay people a fixed salary and abuse the workers by making them work super long hours. As evidence for this, he made a broad claim to the effect that anyone who studied the history of labor would know this. I, as well as any rational and sane person with any knowledge of history and labor at all, realized immediately that this was complete BS and said so. In typical fashion, despite providing zero evidence to back up his ridiculous claim, Smash just demanded that I prove that he was wrong. So, feeling that low hanging fruit was sufficient in this case due to the absolute obviousness at hand, I linked to a wiki page about wages showing that hourly wages (more broadly wages based on total time worked on site) have been used throughout history and long long before modern labor movements.


Smash was not just a little bit wrong. He was laughably wrong. Yet somehow I get attacked for pointing it out? I'm going to stick to my original assumption that it's about switching to name calling once the facts don't go you way. Oh, and I don't buy the whole "I don't know or care about the topic". You knew that Smash was defending big government as the champion of the working class, and I was pointing out the flaws in his position, which was sufficient for you to pick a side. It's not like this isn't an easy pattern to spot.



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But that's neither here nor there towards noticing that you reneged on your agreement with Smash regarding the 2008 elections.


Lol. Absence of proof is proof of absence? Interesting. Unlike some other poster who shall not be named, I did not renege. Go find threads in which Smash and I both posted within a 30 day period after the election. You might just find something.
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#147 Jan 13 2015 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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I, as well as any rational and sane person with any knowledge of history and labor at all
So which is it? You or any rational and sane person? That's two different things.
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#148 Jan 13 2015 at 6:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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And yet, you cared enough to jump on me for daring to tell Smash that he was wrong. Do you guys have like a secret love thing going on or something?

You've been on the forums for this long and you still think that people post out of some driving conviction? Really?

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Oh, and I don't buy the whole "I don't know or care about the topic"

I'm okay with this. I mean, if I wanted to futility try and convince you of something, I'd be arguing about wage rates of the ancient Greeks.

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Go find threads in which Smash and I both posted within a 30 day period after the election. You might just find something.

Actually the terms were "Loser has to follow the winner around saying 'Yes master! You are absolutely correct.' in response to every post for one month." Not "...but only in threads where we both decide to post".

You failed to do so, thus you reneged on your obligation. Just like the "nameless poster" but no surprises there. Cut from the same cloth and all.
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#149 Jan 13 2015 at 7:05 PM Rating: Good
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By all accounts, Obama does believe that America is innately good.


What accounts Joph?

I don't know the man personally. Neither do you. What "accounts" are you talking about?

The "accounts" I know of is not wearing the flag lapel pin after 9/11, not putting his hand on his heart during the pledge, and sitting in a church listening to Reverend Wright for 20 years.

All the "accounts" seem to indicate exactly the opposite Joph. And that's what the voters are going to be looking at. He can claim whatever he wants, but it's actions that matter. An yeah, I get that those are just symbols and shouldn't matter, but barring some other information those symbols do matter.


We should just trust that he really does love his country though? Why? Seriously. Why?

If what you actually wrote is not what you actually mean, well, learn to write better.
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By all accounts, Obama does believe that America is innately good.


What accounts Joph?

I don't know the man personally. Neither do you. What "accounts" are you talking about?

The "accounts" I know of is not wearing the flag lapel pin after 9/11, not putting his hand on his heart during the pledge, and sitting in a church listening to Reverend Wright for 20 years.

All the "accounts" seem to indicate exactly the opposite Joph. And that's what the voters are going to be looking at. He can claim whatever he wants, but it's actions that matter. An yeah, I get that those are just symbols and shouldn't matter, but barring some other information those symbols do matter.


We should just trust that he really does love his country though? Why? Seriously. Why?

If what you actually wrote is not what you actually mean, well, learn to write better.


The exact opposite of "does believe that American is innately good" is "does not believe that America is innately good'. It is not "hates America", nor does it mean he's "anti-american". It means exactly what I said. That he does not believe that America is innately good. I'm not going to defend a straw man that I didn't say (explicitly or otherwise). I will, however, gladly defend the claim that Obama does not believe that America is innately good if you want. I believed that to be true back in 2008, and I still believe it today. And frankly, today I have even more examples to support it than I did back then.

I did write exactly what I meant. You choose to change the wording. Stop doing that. Seriously. Stop.

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#151 Jan 15 2015 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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I did write exactly what I meant. You choose to change the wording. Stop doing that. Seriously. Stop.
We can't considering how much of a random crapshot it is. Sometimes you claim it's exactly what you mean, and then others you go out of your way to complain about a nonexistent context changing the entire meaning of what you meant, and then others you add new quantifiers after-the-fact.
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