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#27 Dec 03 2014 at 9:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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You should be happy that the first time you put me down for being wrong stuck with me over all these years.

You never forget your first time. For me, though, you were just cocktail waitress #4423.

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#28 Dec 03 2014 at 9:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds like PTSD.
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#29 Dec 04 2014 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
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If there's a standard to follow, people should actually follow it. All the time.

A laudable standard.

...That you only mention when a Republican gets in trouble.


Because in our strong left leaning media, the hypocrisy nearly always leans in that direction. One identifiable conservative writes a negative comment about the Obama girls on her facebook page, and it's a major media event showcasing the intolerance of conservatives. A few hundred negative comments about Palin's daughters goes relatively unnoticed though. Heck. It took Letterman saying something ridiculously offensive about one of her daughters to even garner notice, and a tepid apology.

That's some serious hypocrisy, and I'm going to point it out. For the record, I think that what was said about Obama's daughters was out of line. I'm reasonably sure that not many conservatives think differently. She was fired immediately over it. Was Letterman fired? Was anyone? If my response to hypocrisy within the political context is one-sided, it's because the hypocrisy is one-sided.

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#30 Dec 04 2014 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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That's some seriously hypocrisy, and I'm going to point it out.
Which is a laudable standard that you only live up to when it aligns with "your" political ideology.
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#31 Dec 04 2014 at 8:33 PM Rating: Good
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I remember when Smash fucked me over.

It was back when Varrus was in his phase of randomly challenging people to a game of chess. Obviously, I decided it'd be hilarious to impersonate Smash and lose a game on purpose. It all went great, I lost and Varrus came bragging about beating Smash who never commented in the thread again.

Scheme scuttled, payoff denied. Have I mentioned this before? I probably have. It's the angriest I have ever been with any of you, with the exception of Timelord and his ironic inability to keep to any kind of schedule or commitment.
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#32 Dec 04 2014 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
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While I do think if you're working as a communications director for a politician, you should be more careful about what you say, and that negative comments directed at the children of politicians should be off limits, there's also a **** of a lot of hypocrisy going on with regard to the outrage and demands she be fired from people who almost certainly never said word one when far far worse comments were made towards Sarah Palins daughters. If there's a standard to follow, people should actually follow it. All the time. Not just when the politics lines up properly.
You're slicing this too thin. She made an *** out of herself, which is a perfectly fine thing to do. It's good when asses make an *** of themselves, so we can spot them easier. The asses who keep their mouths shut are much more difficult to identify.


I'm not sure what you mean by "slicing this to thin". I intentionally put the caveat about being employed in a communications position for an elected official because presumably the face book opinions of jay random person are free speech and don't really matter much (because, really, who cares?). But the same opinions by someone employed to be the mouthpiece for a politician can (and should) be taken as a reflection of the politician and therefore result in termination.

Similarly (because I just know someone will go there), offensive and/or over the line opinions expressed by a member of the media also should have potential employment termination consequences. My earlier point about hypocrisy is that this rarely ever happens when the negative comments are directed from left to right, but nearly always does when it's the other way around.
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That's some seriously hypocrisy, and I'm going to point it out.
Which is a laudable standard that you only live up to when it aligns with "your" political ideology.


With original thinking like this, you'll surely go far!
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#34 Dec 04 2014 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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With original thinking like this, you'll surely go far!
Not everyone is satisfied with having other people think for them.
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I remember when Smash fucked me over.

It was back when Varrus was in his phase of randomly challenging people to a game of chess. Obviously, I decided it'd be hilarious to impersonate Smash and lose a game on purpose. It all went great, I lost and Varrus came bragging about beating Smash who never commented in the thread again.

Scheme scuttled, payoff denied. Have I mentioned this before? I probably have. It's the angriest I have ever been with any of you, with the exception of Timelord and his ironic inability to keep to any kind of schedule or commitment.


Wait. Seriously? That was you? Lol. I do vaguely recall that. That sucks man. All that set up, and no pay off.
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If there's a standard to follow, people should actually follow it. All the time.

A laudable standard.

...That you only mention when a Republican gets in trouble.
Because in our strong left leaning media, the hypocrisy nearly always leans in that direction.

I'm sure you believe that's the reason Smiley: smile
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#37 Dec 05 2014 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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It was back when Varrus was in his phase of randomly challenging people to a game of chess. Obviously, I decided it'd be hilarious to impersonate Smash and lose a game on purpose. It all went great, I lost and Varrus came bragging about beating Smash who never commented in the thread again.

Wasn't really worth arguing about. Should have been obvious to anyone that if I played 1000 games of chess with any of you idiots I'd win 1000 games of chess.
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Was Letterman fired?

Given that Letterman owns Worldwide Pants, it's a good bet that Worldwide Pants didn't fire Letterman.

I suppose you meant to ask if CBS dropped the show. No, they did not. Why? Because Letterman has more value as a late night talk show host who makes a joke about Palin's kids than Lauten has as a communications director who makes cracks about Obama's daughters. I'll leave it to you to see if you can figure out why that is in grown-up terms.
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That's some serious hypocrisy, and I'm going to point it out.

Limbaugh produced a song titled, literally, "Barrack the Magic Negro"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_the_Magic_Negro

I never heard much about it, really. Nexa mentioned it in passing once and it seemed so ludicrous I thought she was messing me with me. It was, of course, tame by normal conservative talk radio standards. The reality is that so much is ignored that comes from the right because it's just a constant stream of idiocy that there's serious fatigue trying to deal with all of it. It really takes a lot of effort, like insulting teenage girls, to get noticed. Also there is a vast, vast, vast, difference between "your kid is pregnant, she probably had sex, haha!" and "it's disgraceful that these black girls didn't act the way I want" with no trace of levity.
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#40 Dec 05 2014 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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Wasn't really worth arguing about. Should have been obvious to anyone that if I played 1000 games of chess with any of you idiots I'd win 1000 games of chess.


Honestly, that it was obvious you'd beat Varrus was kind of the main thrust of the joke. The other half was going to be your overreaction, some creative insults, a bit of hyperbole, maybe even the coloured text.

You weren't feeling it, that's fine, I've made my peace with that. At least I made Varrus happy with my hypergigamodern two rooks opening.
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#41 Dec 05 2014 at 4:47 PM Rating: Default
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Also there is a vast, vast, vast, difference between "your kid is pregnant, she probably had ***, haha!" and "it's disgraceful that these black girls didn't act the way I want" with no trace of levity.


I'll just reiterate that her pregnancy only became a deal because of Palin's stance on abstinence.
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Was Letterman fired?

Given that Letterman owns Worldwide Pants, it's a good bet that Worldwide Pants didn't fire Letterman.

I suppose you meant to ask if CBS dropped the show. No, they did not. Why? Because Letterman has more value as a late night talk show host who makes a joke about Palin's kids than Lauten has as a communications director who makes cracks about Obama's daughters. I'll leave it to you to see if you can figure out why that is in grown-up terms.

Well that, and I'm fairly certain the job duties of "comedian" and "congressperson's communication director whose job it is to sanitize all outgoing communique" are different.
#43 Dec 08 2014 at 7:57 AM Rating: Good
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Because in our strong left leaning media
Oh just stop with the imaginary liberal media already.

Our media is a reflection of what we want to consume. The direction it 'leans' is directly predicated by the slant of the observer.


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Because in our strong left leaning media
Oh just stop with the imaginary liberal media already.

Our media is a reflection of what we want to consume. The direction it 'leans' is directly predicated by the slant of the observer.

Gbaji magically stops loving free market capitalism when it's also applied to the media.
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Our media is a reflection of what we want to consume. The direction it 'leans' is directly predicated by the slant of the observer.


That's not even remotely true. The media (journalists specifically) consistently polls significantly more liberal than the general public, and it's hard to imagine that this does not affect their choice of news stories and the slant they put into them. Interestingly enough, the higher you go up in the food chain in terms of the business of news, the more liberal the people get. So it's not just the rank and file reporters and copy editors but the folks who hire them, and the folks who hire those people, and so on.

We can debate how much this bias influences public opinion at large, but it's pretty ostrich like to deny that it exists.
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gbaji wrote:
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Our media is a reflection of what we want to consume. The direction it 'leans' is directly predicated by the slant of the observer.


That's not even remotely true. The media (journalists specifically) consistently polls significantly more liberal than the general public, and it's hard to imagine that this does not affect their choice of news stories and the slant they put into them. Interestingly enough, the higher you go up in the food chain in terms of the business of news, the more liberal the people get. So it's not just the rank and file reporters and copy editors but the folks who hire them, and the folks who hire those people, and so on.

We can debate how much this bias influences public opinion at large, but it's pretty ostrich like to deny that it exists.
By that logic, most everyone at FOX is liberal.


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By that logic, most everyone at FOX is liberal.


Not sure what logic you're using here, but Fox News pretty consistently polls about middle of the road in terms of alignment with public opinion. It's the reason why it has by far the most evenly distributed viewership politically speaking. What should be telling is that it's labeled as "conservative" by everyone else in the field. I suppose when you're standing at the far left side of the field, the guy standing in the middle looks like he's far to the right.

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gbaji wrote:
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By that logic, most everyone at FOX is liberal.
Not sure what logic you're using here
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The media (journalists specifically) consistently polls significantly more liberal than the general public
Was that supposed to be a trick question?
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That's not even remotely true.

Conservative group finds media is too liberal. News at eleven.
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#50 Dec 08 2014 at 6:58 PM Rating: Good
I think reality has a liberal bias.
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Conservative group finds media is too liberal. News at eleven.

http://www.mrc.org/static/about-us

Dear lord, using that website as a cite for something. The tears of laughter are blinding me.

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Liberals hate him! He used one simple trick to outsmart the media.

I assume most of the stories are cut together with ***** pill and gold coin ads?

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