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I'm certain it's misogynist to threaten to rape a woman for posting an article you don't like. That's more or less what the conversation is about.

I literally do not care what the content of that article is; rape is overwhelming a crime of male aggression against women, and is very firmly established that way culturally. And I consider that, and anyone dismissive of the crime here, misogynist.

Do men sometimes face those same issues? Absolutely. But it's essentially always ALWAYS used to deflect away from issues, not to actually foster discussion about them.

"Guys get raped too" is a way to shut down conversations about rape and rape culture; no one ever saying that is actually interested in having a conversation about the pervasive, patriarchal systems that lead to rape. They're actually just telling women to shut up (when women are overwhelmingly the majority of rape victims).

So yeah, men sometimes get threatened with rape, or receive death threats. But women have overwhelmingly been the victims here.

And it's ******* dismissive **** like this that infuriates me (from the link Pold posted):


**** off. I've never felt safe in essentially ANY other gaming environment besides Zam, because gaming environments as a whole tend to be incredibly homophobic. Obviously not all of them, but hunting through the filth for a safe haven isn't exactly pleasant. And it's because of this that I've essentially never identified as a gamer - gamer culture, when speaking generally, is gross.

So don't stand there and tell me that Gawker created this narrative. "Gamer" has been associated with this **** for a LONG time, and all Gawker has done is call out those ******** for being what they are.

So keep telling yourself that "gamers" at large have always been accepting, inviting groups of people. It's not like the WoW o-boards existed long before gawker started publishing feminist articles or anything.

Yeah, what this guy said.


And just TRY to give one a "good job" slap on the ass these days...

It's a one-paragraph "pledge" of sorts that says that GamerGate doesn't condone harassment. It wouldn't be bad, if it didn't throw the kool-aid in there with the rest of it.

But supporting the status quo of gaming 5 years ago, before Gawker started posting feminist articles, is supporting a gaming culture that was disgustingly homophobic and misogynistic.

I know a lot of gay/female gamers outside of Zam (primarily through gay media or tumblr). Very, very few of them identify as gamers, even if they spend a lot of time playing games.

There's a reason for that.

[EDIT]

Oh right, gay is filtered.

Edited, Oct 24th 2014 2:11pm by idiggory

Before I respond..are you a woman? No ? Then as an intellectual exercise I invite you to consider what would happen if I suggested you sodomize yourself, question your sexuality or find an inventive to offend your delicate floeer sensibilities.

If you are a woman.. for heavens sake don't respond. You may just feel threatened.

Or you might English.

In much the same way that you have no other way to respond other than to resort to sarcasm. I do believe this thread has raveled.

WURDS!

I'm not sure which camp to ally with in this debate; both are doing their best to keep me away, so I'll just leave it at this:



Different topic, I know, but I believe it's still relevant.

There's a sexist joke or two to be made there.

Let us change the subject briefly.

It will show you one right that women have that men don't. Check the reactions to the video. Women are allowed to be insane ( though typically while pregnant ).

How can you even THINK about comparing the two? Now I am not sure whether you are a racist or not.

I wish I could put this thread into a pillowcase with some rocks and toss it into the river like an unwanted litter of kittens.

Me?