A you trying to make me a feminist?Follow

Even if the harassment is equal it'd likely still be a gendered issue. Men tend to be azholes to each other almost casually, but that behavior usually stops at gender boundaries. I mean we're supposed to butt heads with each other and the winner gets to mate with the women right? They're not supposed to be butting heads too.

When those boundaries go down stepping on toes is almost inevitable. I mean, try to portray a woman in a video game these days without having your work put under a fine toothed comb. Likewise try to be a woman entering this "man's world" without stepping on toes. Regardless of whether or not there's more of it society is going to react more strongly to the female harassment. People are just programmed to do so. TBH I think some of the extra harassment of women stems from the difficulty of bringing women into the fold. It does complicate things in the transition phase.

Edited, Oct 21st 2014 11:28am by someproteinguy

I love how people keep trying to say Gamergate has a leader. It's like you've all gone FullMcIntosh.

You accused me of being a misogynist a page or so ago. SOOOOO, that means you're a misogynistic douchebag?

It is, isn't it? I've never played it, but from a cursory look at the mechanics it sounds like a management sim only with a depressed dude rather than a theme park or a zoo. Are you sure it isn't just a /bad/ game?

Now, if we were talking about Dear Esther, I'd see your point.

I know, with absolute certainty, that there is no point in talking to someone who views "feminist" as a pejorative term.

Your founder remains your leader until he is replaced.

Since he quit his job to gamergate full-time, I'm not going to hold my breath.

Re-reading the "Gamers Are Dead" column that seemed to be the spark for that whole can o' gas, it's not hard to see where people would be offended:

Really? That's what you think 'games culture' is? A bunch of socially retarded misfits who can't dress themselves raging on the internet and spending money? Not the benign banter between gamers on the internet or MMORPG guilds that last for years and inspire real-life meetings or modding communities or indie game jams or fan art communities or long discussions about the ending of Bioshock Infinite or Spec Ops: The Line or the umpteen charity drives or the enormous Let's Play community or any of the rest of it? Just a bunch of feeble-minded corporate sheep who don't understand "social interaction", that's gaming culture. Why, she can't even understand why she's a part of it.

God, I can't imagine why anyone would have been offended by that glowing appraisal of how inclusive and diverse the gaming community is

Edited, Oct 21st 2014 3:34pm by Jophiel

If I was a gamer, they wouldn't be unplayed!

I was referring directly to OV's claim:
The "Gamers are Dead" article that sparked a day's worth of like-minded columns wasn't anything like that and it's easy to see why it (and the subsequent columns) threw gas on the fire and brought a lot more "neutral" gamers into it.

Right. Great job of cutting and pasting an entire column, terrible job at showing it was anything but insulting.


Again: You people in gaming culture are a bunch of mentally retarded, socially dysfunctional corporate shills who can't function in the real world or hold real jobs. It's up to us to insert a culture where you have none because, when I look at you, all I see is mouth-breathing morons with Pikachu backpacks waiting to buy the next game if you don't choke to death on your own drool first.

Yeah, real inclusive and uplifting stuff.

Edited, Oct 21st 2014 6:36pm by Jophiel

That's nice.

If I thought the column was defensible I probably would have defended it. It's not though, so I didn't.

I thought it was, actually, unless you happen to be part of the vocal minority that's not representative of most people that plays video games.

Believe it or not, I'm a gamer. I'll be 33 next year and I had a Nintendo at 5 & built my first PC at 16. Not one of the stereotypical "gamer" terms used in that particular article to describe gamers or gamer culture bothered me at all. Some of them even apply to me. Sure, it was a bit mean but given that its a response to gamergate that isn't exactly surprising.

The problem is, I don't want to be considered a gamer anymore. Not because I don't play video games (Currently loving Alien Isolation & counting the days until Civ: Beyond Earth) but because the trolls like the asshole that started gamergate have made it a derogatory term.

A term I'm ashamed to be associated with because of a very vocal minority that can't take a joke, criticism, or foams at the mouth when a feminist points out the obvious about the copious amounts of cleavage in many games.

Honestly, given the current environment on the internet I'm surprised the person that wrote this article about Boob Armor killing or injuring the wearer hasn't gotten a death threat yet. Its Gawker media related AND ruins fanboys fantasies all over the internet at the same time.

Come on Poldaran, you should try and get that ******* lawyer from California to beat the author up for an anti-bullying charity. THAT'LL TEACH THEM!