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#1 Aug 18 2014 at 5:01 PM Rating: Default
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So Ars has this story about an indictment in Chicago.

Short version, company that does red light cameras got contract my giving away a condo and and a higher level mercedes. There is no outrage, but there is curiosity. Just how big are those contracts if a condo and a car are the cost of doing business in Chicago?

I personally see it as part of the fun we will enjoy in the pre-election by the end of this year.

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#2 Aug 18 2014 at 5:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Was this news? Even the Ars story links to a 2013 story about the hinky camera deal. Edit: I suppose the indictment is news. The fact that the contract was shady from the start surprises no one except maybe a remote Laplander herdsman some place.

The red light cameras were a Daley-era thing so I don't see it playing too much into the election unless it's promises to do away with them or something.

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Jophiel wrote:
Was this news? Even the Ars story links to a 2013 story about the hinky camera deal. Edit: I suppose the indictment is news. The fact that the contract was shady from the start surprises no one except maybe a remote Laplander herdsman some place.

The red light cameras were a Daley-era thing so I don't see it playing too much into the election unless it's promises to do away with them or something.

Edited, Aug 18th 2014 6:51pm by Jophiel


I would prolly vote for someone who promises that.
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The fact that the contract was shady from the start surprises no one except maybe a remote Laplander herdsman some place.

Is Quinn in jail yet? Wait, it's too early for that, right? Third year of the second term?
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Well, he started by finishing Blagojevich's term so the calendar is all thrown off.

He'll lose re-election this November which I'm not thrilled about but he doesn't deserve re-election either. He's been a pretty unimpressive governor. People from outside the state keep trying to make this sound like a Really Big Deal but it's not. The guy before Blagojevich was a Republican, half the governors in my lifetime have been Republicans and the state legislature will remain firmly Democratic (perhaps even still supermajorities) regardless. Still, "something something Obama something something Republican governor!"
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#7 Aug 18 2014 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
The red light cameras were a Daley-era thing so I don't see it playing too much into the election unless it's promises to do away with them or something.

There was a big front-page investigation in the Trib a few weeks ago that showed several unusual, unexplainable spike in tickets issued from red light cameras on seemingly random days. It caused enough of a stink that Rahm announced that drivers issued tickets on those days could appeal them.
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Still, "something something Obama something something Republican governor!"
Thanks Obama.
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The red light cameras were a Daley-era thing so I don't see it playing too much into the election unless it's promises to do away with them or something.

There was a big front-page investigation in the Trib a few weeks ago that showed several unusual, unexplainable spike in tickets issued from red light cameras on seemingly random days. It caused enough of a stink that Rahm announced that drivers issued tickets on those days could appeal them.

An appeal means having to go to court doesn't it.

Doesn't sound like much of a peace-offering. Now if lunch with Rahm was thrown into the deal if you show up for court to appeal your ticket. That would be fun.
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I think they have an automated type process. You request a review of your ticket and someone goes over the video footage to see if it was legitimate and lets you know. I imagine you could appeal past that but couldn't say for sure since I don't have a ticket so I haven't been following along too closely.
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So, while we're on the subject of governors and indictments and all that noise, what about Rick Perry?

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#12 Aug 19 2014 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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I think things are not going to go so well for this county DA that brought the suit against Perry.





Edited, Aug 19th 2014 5:29pm by Elinda
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Cursory search shows the drunk driver should have stepped down. Not sure the extent of the money being withheld and not interested enough to search deeper.
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Cursory search shows the drunk driver should have stepped down. Not sure the extent of the money being withheld and not interested enough to search deeper.

The drunken DA probably should have stepped down but who knows what she's got going on. That in itself doesn't justify Perry withholding money from the agency. I don't think there are any charges of mismanagement of the agency or misuse of the monies.

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There have allegedly been two other DAs in Texas who were arrested for drunk driving in Perry's tenure, neither of whom was pressured to step down.

This particular DA was looking into some allegations of mismanagement (crony type stuff) of funds earmarked for charity and business development. Plus, you know, Democrat.

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Whether or not the DA "should" have stepped down, that doesn't by itself legitimize the tactics Perry used (they might BE legit but not because she was arrested fr a DUI). Sort of like Palin and Troopergate -- the guy in question might have been a dick but Palin still stepped outside the lines in her attempt to punish him.

But no analysis I've read of the indictments seems especially optimistic of the its chances in court.
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Whether or not the DA "should" have stepped down, that doesn't by itself legitimize the tactics Perry used
I really can't say I care much either way as far as that, I'm just not particularly fond of drunk drivers. I mean, she got 45 days and 180 day suspended license so that's pretty harsh for a first time offense I guess, assuming she spends the whole time locked up.

Just on that, if I were in charge I'd pressure her (and the other two) to step down as well. I don't think I'd go quite as far as what appear to be sanctions, but I certainly would still make it my business to get them out.
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He'll lose re-election this November

I really don't think he will, actually. This is one of the most interesting races this year as far as polling modeling goes and I think the commonly used turnout assumptions are wrong. We'll see, I suppose.
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Whether or not the DA "should" have stepped down, that doesn't by itself legitimize the tactics Perry used
I really can't say I care much either way as far as that, I'm just not particularly fond of drunk drivers. I mean, she got 45 days and 180 day suspended license so that's pretty harsh for a first time offense I guess, assuming she spends the whole time locked up.
She did do jail time.

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Just on that, if I were in charge I'd pressure her (and the other two) to step down as well. I don't think I'd go quite as far as what appear to be sanctions, but I certainly would still make it my business to get them out.
Human Resources would pressure you to pressure them into getting help....and to work with her while she's getting help. But that's just HR.

Perry wanted her out. It doesn't seem like any big secret that he wanted this oversight agency gone or at least have it's power reigned in.

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#20 Aug 19 2014 at 12:32 PM Rating: Good
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He'll lose re-election this November

I think this is going to boost Perry in the polls.

This will be seen as a frivolous vindictive lawsuit that is wasting tax-payer money.

edit - haha different gov.

Is Perry even running again or is he second term??

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Perry isn't running. I think he's term limited. He'll probably run again in 2016 for president though.

I haven't seen any polling indications that Quinn has a chance but, worst case scenario, I'm wrong about the election and he wins. I can live with that.
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Things are looking grim for the gov election here. The Independent candidate that was a three-way spoiler in the last gubernatorial election had been polling pretty consistently below 15% but. This week he got the endorsement of Angus King our well-loved independent US Senator. I would surmise that any gains he sees from this endorsement will come from the liberal side of things.

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Things are looking grim for the gov election here

Nah, it'll be fine. Michaud's going to win by 10 points.
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It doesn't seem like any big secret that he wanted this oversight agency gone or at least have it's power reigned in.


Are you saying he would have wanted this even if the DA hadn't been arrested for drunk driving?
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It was a politically opportunist move, for sure.
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When this story originally broke, based on the limited information I had, I thought it seemed fair for Rick Perry to take the action he did. Or at least it didn't seem criminal or anything.

But the grand jury got a lot more information than I did, and apparently at least 2/3 (or 3/4?) of them saw fit to indict.

I will say, that I don't like the idea of using the criminal justice system if an abuse of power issue can be reasonably rectified. That is, if they find that Perry can't do this, then they could just force him to release the funding, rather than remove him from office and/or throw him in jail. Like how Obama can't use the recess appointments anymore, but he isn't charged with anything - it was just a legal interpretation disagreement. What if his legal counsel said he could do this? Or what about a hypothetical scenario where they'd run it past the Texas supreme court first, so he wouldn't have to risk his governership by doing it? Although I suppose there's also an argument that Rick Perry's CYA-ness in this case carried it past "legal interpretation disagreement" and into actual abuse of power.
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