lolgaxe wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
how do you know he can has a dance?
Beaten to the punch. Probably even the same video.
Edited, Dec 4th 2014 8:28pm by lolgaxe
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I'm going to pretend you didn't ask the first part.
Beaten to the punch. Probably even the same video.
Edited, Dec 4th 2014 8:28pm by lolgaxe
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angrymnk wrote:
Is there any particular reason I should be born with the knowledge of his existence though?
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lolgaxe wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
Is there any particular reason I should be born with the knowledge of his existence though?
I dunno.... Walken was pretty popular for his acting in the earlier years, and pretty popular as a meme (maybe meme not exactly what I'm looking for, but still) at times in the later. Seems like that'd cover a long range of generations and ages.
Edited, Dec 4th 2014 8:44pm by TirithRR
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gbaji wrote:
If they had tazed him, and he'd had a heart attack and died, you'd be arguing that there were like 6 officers there, more than enough to have physically handled him without shooting him with a jolt of electricity.
My comment was in response to someone talking about Garner and how the cops should have handled him.
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Huh? All I did was stipulate that the blonde woman we're replacing Brown with be of similar size and strength. Which seems completely reasonable given the circumstances we're discussing.
Um... It was my argument. I started out by saying that if we replaced Brown with a 300lb white man who acted identically to Brown, that the officer would have responded to him in the same manner. Smash responded to this with his "19 year old blonde" bit (Yet shockingly, you didn't make any deal about him changing the parameters of my argument). I then responded to him by re-stipulating that if the 19 year old blonde was 300lbs and otherwise acted identically to Brown, that she'd have been killed as well.
How the heck do you see this as me changing parameters? Kinda one sided, don't you think?
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This is intrinsic to you "logical" argument style.
Trying to stick to the relevant points? Yes. That's how logic works. How logic does not work is just randomly changing things until there's no correlation at all to the thing you started out talking about. If your argument is that Brown was unfairly treated because of the color of his skin, then you test this by changing just the color of his skin. You keep every other aspect of the encounter identical. Smash wants to change the hair color, race, and sex. You apparently want to change the weight.
But I'm the one using poor logic? Lol!
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TirithRR wrote:
Seems like that'd cover a long range of generations and ages.
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I've been put under more difficult positions being dog piled by my siblings offspring than this guy was subjected to
No. I've had more weight put on me than was put on Garner. My understanding is that it was not the hold on his neck that caused him to pass out, but the position he was held in on the ground, coupled with his weight and underlying asthma that caused it.
My point is that watching the video, what the police did should not have resulted in his death. It's the kind of take down and hold that they do all the time. This is not to say that they should not look at this and learn from it, but it's very clearly an accidental death. The family will have a nice lawsuit settlement, but I don't think that criminal charges should have been filed here. The Grand Jury got it right.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
You clearly saw cops in movies only. You may have heard something somewhere about broken window theory, but cops do not have to do ****; selective enforcement and all that.They can certainly ignore it if they want to.
Yes. They can. But not all the time, else there would be no reason to pay them, right?
Sure. You go to the cop and tell him he has to enforce the law or else you won't pay him. After all, you pay his salary! See where it gets you. If you are lucky, you will get an odd look that you ( not you specifically, you know.. other people ) give to retarded adults.
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If by "miserable" you mean being shot to death, then that didn't happen because of jaywalking
Why, pray, did it happen then?
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angrymnk wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
Well, kinda, Gbaji is not responding and I am kinda bored.
Who is Walkens and how do you know he can has a dance?
I also don't know Christopher Walkens, but I do know that he is talking about Christopher Walken!
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Well, I kind of going with the idea that when Smash said "19 year old blonde Jenna" he meant a regular sized person.
If I'm wrong, I'm sure Smash will let me know.
As to the tazer thing, yeah...got the stories mixed up. Sue me.
Having said that, a tazering makes it less likely to damage a "suspect" when subduing them for arrest as it vastly lowers their ability (or motivation, for that matter) to resist.
If I'm wrong, I'm sure Smash will let me know.
As to the tazer thing, yeah...got the stories mixed up. Sue me.
Having said that, a tazering makes it less likely to damage a "suspect" when subduing them for arrest as it vastly lowers their ability (or motivation, for that matter) to resist.
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Gbaji wrote about ten thousand words, and not one of those words explained why holding one's arms up stiff is a threat to police.
lolgaxe wrote:
Peter Pan Live is on, with Christopher Walken as Hook.
Probably a better time than pretending either "cops are good" and "cops are bad!" group aren't just both being idiots.
Probably a better time than pretending either "cops are good" and "cops are bad!" group aren't just both being idiots.
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If by "miserable" you mean being told to get off the street, sure. If by "miserable" you mean being shot to death, then that didn't happen because of jaywalking,
Right that was the sentence for being black. I heard the cop yelled "I AM THE LAAWWAWWWWWWW!" as he shot him, too.
Right that was the sentence for being black. I heard the cop yelled "I AM THE LAAWWAWWWWWWW!" as he shot him, too.
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If by "miserable" you mean being told to get off the street, sure. If by "miserable" you mean being shot to death, then that didn't happen because of jaywalking,
Right that was the sentence for being black. I heard the cop yelled "I AM THE LAAWWAWWWWWWW!" as he shot him, too.
Right that was the sentence for being black. I heard the cop yelled "I AM THE LAAWWAWWWWWWW!" as he shot him, too.
I heard it went something like this.
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Smasharoo wrote:
If by "miserable" you mean being told to get off the street, sure. If by "miserable" you mean being shot to death, then that didn't happen because of jaywalking,
Right that was the sentence for being black. I heard the cop yelled "I AM THE LAAWWAWWWWWWW!" as he shot him, too.
Right that was the sentence for being black. I heard the cop yelled "I AM THE LAAWWAWWWWWWW!" as he shot him, too.
I heard it went something like this.
No wonder they shot that ****** if he was a giant *** demon.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
angrymnk wrote:
gbaji wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
You clearly saw cops in movies only. You may have heard something somewhere about broken window theory, but cops do not have to do ****; selective enforcement and all that.They can certainly ignore it if they want to.
Yes. They can. But not all the time, else there would be no reason to pay them, right?
Sure. You go to the cop and tell him he has to enforce the law or else you won't pay him. After all, you pay his salary! See where it gets you. If you are lucky, you will get an odd look that you ( not you specifically, you know.. other people ) give to retarded adults.
Um... I was talking about the cops actual boss. You know, the police department? What do you suppose might happen to a beat cop who never responds to a call, never makes arrests, never patrols, never pulls anyone over, never issues any tickets, etc? Assuming crime didn't actually drop to zero, and this is the result of the cop actively choosing to just avoid any confrontation with anyone who might be committing a crime, I'm guessing that cop isn't going to keep his job for long.
You can't actually be this stupid. The cops are paid to patrol and to respond to calls. They are expected to deal with the crazy guy yelling obscenities at random people walking by, or the troublemaker kid who shoplifted some old lady's cat, or the guy who's selling loose cigarettes in front of someone's business and wont leave. They're the ones who are paid to deal with those situations. Insisting that they should have just ignored the guy isn't a legitimate argument. Argue that they should have handled it differently, or used a different take down technique, or whatever. But saying that they could have just walked on by and left him alone ignores the entire purpose of the police officer.
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If by "miserable" you mean being shot to death, then that didn't happen because of jaywalking
Why, pray, did it happen then?
Unless jaywalking normally involves leaning into the window of a cop car, punching the officer in the car repeatedly, and then attempting to grab his gun from him when he drew it to defend himself, maybe it's not jaywalking? And yeah. That's also your answer. That's what he did. Actually, that's not all he did. After having been shot inside the car, Brown retreated. The officer got out of the car and ordered him to surrender. Instead of doing so, he turned around, put his head down and charged the officer.
That's why he was shot to death. Did you really think he was just jaywalking and a cop drove up and shot him? Seriously? Way to conveniently ignore all of the stuff that happened between the jaywalking and the shooting.
Edited, Dec 5th 2014 5:07pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
trickybeck wrote:
Gbaji wrote about ten thousand words, and not one of those words explained why holding one's arms up stiff is a threat to police.
Not one of them explained why holding one's arms up stiff is a sign that one is in league with the Devil either.
Let me give you a hint: The police didn't take him down because he was a threat to them. So arguing that he wasn't a threat to them is meaningless. He also wasn't a ballerina, or a space alien, or Elvis, or any of an infinite list of things that the police didn't take him down for.
King Nobby wrote:
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Gbaji wrote:
My point is that watching the video, what the police did should not have resulted in his death.
But it did and it was not only unnecessary but warned. Forcing someone to eat peanuts shouldn't kill anyone either, doesn't mean you should not be held accountable if the person who is allergic to peanuts cries "I can't breathe".
Besides, isn't that the reason why we have "involuntary" charges? If we're not going to charge anyone who involuntary killed someone, but was a direct result of their actions, then why have the charges in the first place?
Almalieque wrote:
Gbaji wrote:
My point is that watching the video, what the police did should not have resulted in his death.
But it did and it was not only unnecessary but warned. Forcing someone to eat peanuts shouldn't kill anyone either, doesn't mean you should not be held accountable if the person who is allergic to peanuts cries "I can't breathe".
Besides, isn't that the reason why we have "involuntary" charges? If we're not going to charge anyone who involuntary killed someone, but was a direct result of their actions, then why have the charges in the first place?
For heaven's sake don't confuse him. He already has problems with understanding that blacks might on occasion be treated differently than whites. Do you really think he can handle that and concept of involuntary manslaughter?
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gbaji wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
gbaji wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
You clearly saw cops in movies only. You may have heard something somewhere about broken window theory, but cops do not have to do ****; selective enforcement and all that.They can certainly ignore it if they want to.
Yes. They can. But not all the time, else there would be no reason to pay them, right?
Sure. You go to the cop and tell him he has to enforce the law or else you won't pay him. After all, you pay his salary! See where it gets you. If you are lucky, you will get an odd look that you ( not you specifically, you know.. other people ) give to retarded adults.
Um... I was talking about the cops actual boss. You know, the police department? What do you suppose might happen to a beat cop who never responds to a call, never makes arrests, never patrols, never pulls anyone over, never issues any tickets, etc? Assuming crime didn't actually drop to zero, and this is the result of the cop actively choosing to just avoid any confrontation with anyone who might be committing a crime, I'm guessing that cop isn't going to keep his job for long.
You can't actually be this stupid. The cops are paid to patrol and to respond to calls. They are expected to deal with the crazy guy yelling obscenities at random people walking by, or the troublemaker kid who shoplifted some old lady's cat, or the guy who's selling loose cigarettes in front of someone's business and wont leave. They're the ones who are paid to deal with those situations. Insisting that they should have just ignored the guy isn't a legitimate argument. Argue that they should have handled it differently, or used a different take down technique, or whatever. But saying that they could have just walked on by and left him alone ignores the entire purpose of the police officer.
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If by "miserable" you mean being shot to death, then that didn't happen because of jaywalking
Why, pray, did it happen then?
Unless jaywalking normally involves leaning into the window of a cop car, punching the officer in the car repeatedly, and then attempting to grab his gun from him when he drew it to defend himself, maybe it's not jaywalking? And yeah. That's also your answer. That's what he did. Actually, that's not all he did. After having been shot inside the car, Brown retreated. The officer got out of the car and ordered him to surrender. Instead of doing so, he turned around, put his head down and charged the officer.
That's why he was shot to death. Did you really think he was just jaywalking and a cop drove up and shot him? Seriously? Way to conveniently ignore all of the stuff that happened between the jaywalking and the shooting.
Edited, Dec 5th 2014 5:07pm by gbaji
It is interesting to see how you conflated my black version and your white version to suit your narrative. It does not really help you, but it is still interesting.
For what it is worth, I am not sure cops were supposed to kill people over some minor offenses. Unless I am wrong. Maybe they are. Maybe that is your ideal world.
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gbaji wrote:
He also wasn't a ballerina, or a space alien, or Elvis, or any of an infinite list of things that the police didn't take him down for.
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Unless jaywalking normally involves leaning into the window of a cop car, punching the officer in the car repeatedly
Did that happen? It's so odd that I missed the photos of the punching injuries, it seems like that would have disarmed a great deal of the "shot from behind while walking away" discussion. Can you link them, please? I'm sure they're everywhere but I don't have a TV and live in a fucking moss covered cave, so I must have missed them. I mean the idea that there are none and that the actual evidence is completely and in every way consistent with Wilson just making that part up is comical, so let's just settle this up now.
Did that happen? It's so odd that I missed the photos of the punching injuries, it seems like that would have disarmed a great deal of the "shot from behind while walking away" discussion. Can you link them, please? I'm sure they're everywhere but I don't have a TV and live in a fucking moss covered cave, so I must have missed them. I mean the idea that there are none and that the actual evidence is completely and in every way consistent with Wilson just making that part up is comical, so let's just settle this up now.
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Here is someone going through the transcripts apparently.
http://kansasexposed.org/2014/11/29/ku-journalism-major-shreds-case-against-mike-brown/
--It appears some grand jury reviews but also a bunch of other stuff I don't have the inclination to actually read.
Edited, Dec 8th 2014 9:33am by Xsarus
http://kansasexposed.org/2014/11/29/ku-journalism-major-shreds-case-against-mike-brown/
--It appears some grand jury reviews but also a bunch of other stuff I don't have the inclination to actually read.
Edited, Dec 8th 2014 9:33am by Xsarus
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/25/us/evidence-released-in-michael-brown-case.html?_r=0
I'm sure the pictures of the severe multiple punching injuries are easy to find.
Edit: Ahh, here it is. A vicious beating, I'd have shot him 12 times, too.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/11/24/ferguson-evidence/assets/ferguson/photos/2014-43984/photos-2/74870006.jpg
Edited, Dec 8th 2014 10:55am by Smasharoo
I'm sure the pictures of the severe multiple punching injuries are easy to find.
Edit: Ahh, here it is. A vicious beating, I'd have shot him 12 times, too.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/11/24/ferguson-evidence/assets/ferguson/photos/2014-43984/photos-2/74870006.jpg
Edited, Dec 8th 2014 10:55am by Smasharoo
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He could so easily have done that to himself. Why would it be on that side of his face if.... eh, ***** it, I've lost interest.
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