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Not after being searched, cuffed, and tossed in the back of a cruiser. This seems to be a new method.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
They interrupt prime time television to announce the Grand Jury decision.
******* CBS.
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Get on with it...
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No charges.
Edited, Nov 24th 2014 9:26pm by TirithRR
******* CBS.
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Get on with it...
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No charges.
Edited, Nov 24th 2014 9:26pm by TirithRR
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
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My thoughts before the announcment
My thoughts during the speech:
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Why is a public grand jury result being delayed and teased like the winner of a Top Chef round?
If they're delaying because they're trying to prep for a press conference or emergency response, well, they should have prepped for that long ago.
And I bet we're going to get some kind of paternalistic speech from the mayor or whoever about maintaining peace. Why make a big show out of it at all? Issue a one-sentence statement to the press and then deal with it.
If they're delaying because they're trying to prep for a press conference or emergency response, well, they should have prepped for that long ago.
And I bet we're going to get some kind of paternalistic speech from the mayor or whoever about maintaining peace. Why make a big show out of it at all? Issue a one-sentence statement to the press and then deal with it.
My thoughts during the speech:
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Yup, this speech is as paternalistic as it gets. Blaming the media even. And why is the prosecutor speaking as if he's Wilson's defense attorney?
Prosecutor's tone & words make clear he had no belief in the case he was tasked with arguing. Reports from inside the court back this up, i.e. no urging of jury to indict, just presentation of evidence.
Prosecutor's tone & words make clear he had no belief in the case he was tasked with arguing. Reports from inside the court back this up, i.e. no urging of jury to indict, just presentation of evidence.
My thoughts:
Inner Monologue wrote:
I hope NBC picks up more episodes of Constantine.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
It surprised me. They didn't even bother to do show trial? Wasn't the president black or something?
Your soul was made of fists.
Jar the Sam
Jar the Sam
trickybeck wrote:
My thoughts during the speech:
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Yup, this speech is as paternalistic as it gets. Blaming the media even. And why is the prosecutor speaking as if he's Wilson's defense attorney?
Prosecutor's tone & words make clear he had no belief in the case he was tasked with arguing. Reports from inside the court back this up, i.e. no urging of jury to indict, just presentation of evidence.
Prosecutor's tone & words make clear he had no belief in the case he was tasked with arguing. Reports from inside the court back this up, i.e. no urging of jury to indict, just presentation of evidence.
You make that sound like a bad thing. Presenting the evidence in an unbiased way should always be the goal.
You make that sound like a bad thing. Presenting the evidence in an unbiased way should always be the goal.
For a prosecutor? You must be new to this "adversarial system of law" thing. I don't think this was a mustache twirling racial killing, but the chances of any non cop being indicted in a similar situation is basically zero.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/
For a prosecutor? You must be new to this "adversarial system of law" thing. I don't think this was a mustache twirling racial killing, but the chances of any non cop being indicted in a similar situation is basically zero.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/
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xantav wrote:
You make that sound like a bad thing. Presenting the evidence in an unbiased way should always be the goal.
Uh, no, that's not how it works. Maybe in robot court on the moon.
You guys make our justice system look svelte and sensible.
Timelordwho wrote:
I'm not quite sure that scheming is an emotion.
Kavekkk wrote:
You guys make our justice system look svelte and sensible.
Svelte sure. But sensible - hah!
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I am going through the gj transcript. I gotta tell you. It reads like a movie. Maybe the family already sold its story to hollywood.
Your soul was made of fists.
Jar the Sam
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So what are the angles here? I stopped paying attention some time ago because the inevitable is the inevitable when people make it so.
Is the story supposed to be that this cop drove by these guys.. and after verbally harassing them (normal) then decided to try to grab the big guy and actually physically drag him into his vehicle? Then when the big guy resists being pulled into the vehicle (AKA kidnapped) and fearing for his life tries to escape and then the cop, in frustration, starts throwing rounds at the guy? Is that what we think happened?
From my poor perspective it seems more likely that this cop did harass these guys and the guys weren't having it and decided to harass back.. the cops starts suffering from an authority complex and gets all flustered and tries to leave the car and falls miserably and then at this case the guys likely start taunting the cop.. the cop then likely approaches to physically detain the big guy who resists and starts throwing hammers.. this cop then starts throwing bullets causing the big guy to instinctually flee for a moment and then in a rage double back around.. all during which time the cops was just spamming his trigger...
pretty ****** all around..
I'm the first person to say that the police are becoming too militarized in both gear and attitude.. but this just doesn't seem to warrant what we are seeing.. The real problem seems to be police policy on how to treat citizens and how to do avoid confrontations that lead to violence.
I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQoyr5vEXU
Is the story supposed to be that this cop drove by these guys.. and after verbally harassing them (normal) then decided to try to grab the big guy and actually physically drag him into his vehicle? Then when the big guy resists being pulled into the vehicle (AKA kidnapped) and fearing for his life tries to escape and then the cop, in frustration, starts throwing rounds at the guy? Is that what we think happened?
From my poor perspective it seems more likely that this cop did harass these guys and the guys weren't having it and decided to harass back.. the cops starts suffering from an authority complex and gets all flustered and tries to leave the car and falls miserably and then at this case the guys likely start taunting the cop.. the cop then likely approaches to physically detain the big guy who resists and starts throwing hammers.. this cop then starts throwing bullets causing the big guy to instinctually flee for a moment and then in a rage double back around.. all during which time the cops was just spamming his trigger...
pretty ****** all around..
I'm the first person to say that the police are becoming too militarized in both gear and attitude.. but this just doesn't seem to warrant what we are seeing.. The real problem seems to be police policy on how to treat citizens and how to do avoid confrontations that lead to violence.
I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQoyr5vEXU
The only issue I really see with this case is a total lack of credible witnesses for Michael surrendering while being shot.
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
Kelvyquayo wrote:
this cop then starts throwing bullets causing the big guy to instinctually flee for a moment and then in a rage double back around.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
The only issue I really see with this case is a total lack of credible witnesses for Michael surrendering while being shot.
That's the song of the moment of the terrified white man, but really, is it that relevant? Worse if he was shot in the back, still a fucking crime if he was shot 12 times for reaching into a police car. Degree of the crime matters, but the idea that it's ok to kill someone in this circumstance is incredibly dangerous. Deadly force isn't supposed to be the first option in a confrontation.
That's the song of the moment of the terrified white man, but really, is it that relevant? Worse if he was shot in the back, still a fucking crime if he was shot 12 times for reaching into a police car. Degree of the crime matters, but the idea that it's ok to kill someone in this circumstance is incredibly dangerous. Deadly force isn't supposed to be the first option in a confrontation.
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I think if the prosecutor had a credible witness he would have had a hard time NOT getting the jury to indict. As it is, it doesn't appear to me based on what I've read and what I saw of him (the Prosecutor) last night that the man really had any interest in seeing Wilson indicted, so it isn't exactly surprising that he wasn't.
"The Rich are there to take all of the money & pay none of the taxes, the middle class is there to do all the work and pay all the taxes, and the poor are there to scare the crap out of the middle class." -George Carlin
If anyone is interested, NPR recently put up this story: Ferguson Documents: How The Grand Jury Reached A Decision
I'm not surprised by the finding. I just hope the dialog doesn't end here. I don't think anyone can deny that there is bias in our justice system even if this shooting wasn't the most succinct example of it. We need to do better.
I'm not surprised by the finding. I just hope the dialog doesn't end here. I don't think anyone can deny that there is bias in our justice system even if this shooting wasn't the most succinct example of it. We need to do better.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I think if the prosecutor had a credible witness he would have had a hard time NOT getting the jury to indict. As it is, it doesn't appear to me based on what I've read and what I saw of him (the Prosecutor) last night that the man really had any interest in seeing Wilson indicted, so it isn't exactly surprising that he wasn't.
It's not surprising because he was a cop. It would have been shocking for anyone else. People get indicted all the time with literally no evidence. It's the lowest standard possible. It's just a pro-forma thing before charging someone with a felony.
It's not surprising because he was a cop. It would have been shocking for anyone else. People get indicted all the time with literally no evidence. It's the lowest standard possible. It's just a pro-forma thing before charging someone with a felony.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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I don't think anyone can deny
Oh, they definitely can. Probably the majority position is in fact denying that there is any kind of racial problem in America, with the logically implied caveat of them lazy, violent blacks being lazy and violent. People love denying this ****, their identity depends upon it.
Timelordwho wrote:
I'm not quite sure that scheming is an emotion.
Kavekkk wrote:
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I don't think anyone can deny
Oh, they definitely can. Probably the majority position is in fact denying that there is any kind of racial problem in America, with the logically implied caveat of them lazy, violent blacks being lazy and violent. People love denying this ****, their identity depends upon it.
You're right.
We've not even convinced gbaji.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Smasharoo wrote:
It's just a pro-forma thing before charging someone with a felony.
I just wonder about those 9 losers.
"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Hermann Goering, April 1946.
Hermann Goering, April 1946.
What really kills me about all this-- everyone everywhere is debating the circumstances of how Michael Brown was killed-- meanwhile, there have been dozens of other reported instances of people murdered by police officers all over the country, and possibly hundreds, if not thousands of unreported cases. Where is the outrage for these people? What about all the people before Brown? Why has it taken so long for people to start giving a ****?
Galkaman wrote:
Kuwoobie will die crushed under the burden of his mediocrity.
What really kills me about all this-- everyone everywhere is debating the circumstances of how Michael Brown was killed-- meanwhile, there have been dozens of other reported instances of people murdered by police officers all over the country, and possibly hundreds, if not thousands of unreported cases. Where is the outrage for these people? What about all the people before Brown? Why has it taken so long for people to start giving a ****?
People don't care. There is no consequence to this, it's just entertainment.
People don't care. There is no consequence to this, it's just entertainment.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
There is no consequence to this, it's just entertainment.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Kuwoobie wrote:
What really kills me about all this-- everyone everywhere is debating the circumstances of how Michael Brown was killed-- meanwhile, there have been dozens of other reported instances of people murdered by police officers all over the country, and possibly hundreds, if not thousands of unreported cases. Where is the outrage for these people? What about all the people before Brown? Why has it taken so long for people to start giving a ****?
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