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#52 Jul 29 2014 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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Here in Poor College Town land, the most I've seen a single four bedroom apartment go for is $1400 a month, and that was at a really fancy complex that rented out each bedroom individually. In the less college-ey parts of town, we once rented a 3BR for $750. I had an older 2BR flat in a duplex for $410 once, which I lived in by myself.

Prices easily shoot up twice as high in Atlanta.

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#53 Jul 29 2014 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
I had an older 2BR flat in a duplex for $410 once, which I lived in by myself.
That's basically free...

Anything less than ~$875 around here will be rented out almost immediately, people barely even check on the state the apartment, that's for private rent apartments anyway, public ones are cheaper but require a 2+ year wait in almost any area (10+ in Amsterdam).
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#54 Jul 29 2014 at 5:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Here in Nashville, as people move out of the projects, they've been demolishing them and replacing them with little colorful cottages with small yards, or in a couple of cases, a couple of pretty nice hi-rises right on the river. I'm not sure if they're using a voucher system, but they're all for very low/no income families. It's been going on for a few years now and it's working. Less crime, less destruction, people have pride in where they live and a lot of them are turning their lives around.

But I am a bit jealous. Those little houses downtown are cute. I want one! Smiley: bah
#55 Jul 29 2014 at 6:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Prices easily shoot up twice as high in Atlanta.


$1400 is a studio here, a parking space in most of Boston and in San Fransisco it's currently the mandatory counseling fee for the family of arugula murdered to provide for your salad.
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I'm all for the better neighborhoods for the reason Smash pointed out. Watching people spaz over it is quite amusing.


"Better" is one thing, but this is skipping right past that and into the realm of housing that most people who work for a living can't afford either. I don't think it's unreasonable (or remotely "spaz" like) to be upset with a public policy like this. Even setting aside the potential for corrupt selection processes, and even if we accept the premise/goal itself, this is a terrible way to implement said goal. There are almost certainly a **** of a lot of housing options that meet the goal of "better neighborhoods" that aren't nearly this expensive.

And at the risk of bursting Smash's workers paradise bubble, as someone else pointed out, it's pretty basic human nature to compare/contrast our relative conditions. The only question is whether those conditions result from some kind of evaluation of our own contributions to society, or whether they are obtained as a result of poorly implemented social programs. And even if you're an advocate of such programs, this one clearly falls into the "poorly implemented" category.
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#57 Jul 29 2014 at 8:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Prices easily shoot up twice as high in Atlanta.


$1400 is a studio here, a parking space in most of Boston and in San Fransisco it's currently the mandatory counseling fee for the family of arugula murdered to provide for your salad.



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#58 Jul 29 2014 at 8:38 PM Rating: Excellent
No Kale love?
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#60 Jul 30 2014 at 6:15 AM Rating: Good
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Kale tastes like crap.

I harvested the radish greens off two radish crops this summer. By the time the radishes are ready for picking the greens are too tough to eat raw, but i put them into a pesto-pasta type dish. They were pretty good - peppery.



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#61 Jul 30 2014 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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And at the risk of bursting Smash's workers paradise bubble, as someone else pointed out, it's pretty basic human nature to compare/contrast our relative conditions. The only question is whether those conditions result from some kind of evaluation of our own contributions to society, or whether they are obtained as a result of poorly implemented social programs. And even if you're an advocate of such programs, this one clearly falls into the "poorly implemented" category.

Yeah, that's not what "implemented" means, in any connotation. Did you mean "designed"? There doesn't seem to have been any sort of issue giving people the exception vouchers or them using them, which would involve the "implementation" of said program.

That aside, the idea that wealth is the result of "contributions to society" is amazingly wrong, it's almost past laughable and into pity territory. I sort of feel bad that anyone would be stupid or gullible enough to believe that.

TL/DR Learn to write, stupid. I pity you.
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#62 Jul 30 2014 at 7:52 AM Rating: Good
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Kale tastes like crap.
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TL/DR Learn to write stupid.


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TL/DR Learn to write quote, stupid. I pity you.


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The only question is whether those conditions result from some kind of evaluation of our own contributions to society, or whether they are obtained as a result of poorly implemented social programs.
You don't add anything to society, yet we can't deport you. Smiley: frown
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#65 Jul 30 2014 at 9:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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No Kale love?
The guinea pig loves it, I could care less either way. It's another green thingy.
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Elinda wrote:
Kale tastes like crap.
Smiley: oyvey

It's true. Admit it. I bet you cover it in all sorts of other flavors in order to eat it. Spinach tastes better than kale.
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I don't like spinach on it's own. Now with feta cheese, that's good.
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#68 Jul 31 2014 at 9:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Throw some Greek olives on there and we'll talk.
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#69 Jul 31 2014 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
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It's true. Admit it. I bet you cover it in all sorts of other flavors in order to eat it. Spinach tastes better than kale.
Nope, mashpot with kale and potatoes.
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Nope, mashpot with kale and potatoes.

Hmm, overcooked green mush, sausage that looks like a diseased dong. Yup, checks out, that's Dutch cuisine.
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You know Smash, some penisillin should clear that right up...
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Saag is overcooked green mush, and it's amazing.

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The Stamppot looked good, but you could use most any dark green leafy veg in place of the kale.

All's I'm saying is Kale is over-rated on the veggie stage. Compared with Swiss chard, beat greens, spinach etc, it's flavor is dull but bitter and the texture always seems limp.
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I don't add anything to society. All I do at work is test websites and software, something a computer savvy ten year old could do. I play video games as a hobby. About the only thing I do as a human being that is worth while any more is give platelets once a month.
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#75 Aug 01 2014 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
I don't add anything to society. All I do at work is test websites and software, something a computer savvy ten year old could do. I play video games as a hobby. About the only thing I do as a human being that is worth while any more is give platelets once a month.

You work and video-game so you add to the GDP. Your work has innate value; Websites need testing. You're as good a worker-ant as any in the colony.

Don't sell the platelets short. It's big deal. Red Cross keeps rejecting me and my thin blood.

I just became an alternate planning board member for our town. I attended my first meeting this week (as a non-voting member).

Also, I rescued a frog from our garage last night.
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Also, I rescued a frog from our garage last night.
When the time comes, he'll return the favor.
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