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#1 Jul 03 2014 at 8:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Have you ever boycotted an artist's work due to non-artistic reasons?
Yes:8 (44.4%)
No:10 (55.6%)
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I was reading a bit about author Marion Z Bradley (Mists of Avalon) and how she had admitted to helping her husband commit a long history of pedophilia and how her daughter has accused M.Z. Bradley as well of raping her repeatedly as a child. I've never read any of her stuff and it wasn't on my to-do list anyway but a number of people were saying how they couldn't handle reading her stuff any more. Partially (and again, I never read her stuff so third hand info here) because she has had characters who commit the same acts in her book(s) and she's been interviewed saying how she tries to make them rounded, understandable people. In light of the accusations, it comes across as her defending her own acts via her characters.

Beyond that, there's all sorts of artists (using the term as a catch-all regardless of perceived talent) with spotty records: Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Michael Jackson and non-kiddie-sex related stuff like Mel Gibson or Michael Richards' racist comments or Tom Cruise or Orson Scott Card's personal/religious beliefs.

Have you ever actively decided not to consume some artist's product as a result of these things? Obviously it doesn't count if you think someone is a horrible artist who you wouldn't touch their stuff anyway. But anyone where you would have been interested if not for their personal baggage?
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#2 Jul 03 2014 at 8:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't go quite as far as a full on boycott, but anything starring a Scientologist has to get some damn good reviews before I'll consider watching it.
#3 Jul 03 2014 at 8:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think I've actively boycotted anyone who let the limelight get to them, but at the same time the people who get wrapped up in these situations are usually in mediums that aren't all that interesting to me in the first place, or are in a decline in their career so I'd already lost interest in them.

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#4 Jul 03 2014 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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I couldn't care less. If Hitler wrote interesting novels, I'd read them. I don't really understand this linking the creator to the work thing. I don't like Kubrick films because I find his personality interesting, the whole idea is bizarre to me in the extreme.
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If Hitler wrote interesting novels, I'd read them.

His landscape paintings look lovely on my walls.
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#6 Jul 03 2014 at 8:45 AM Rating: Default
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Smasharoo wrote:
I couldn't care less. If Hitler wrote interesting novels, I'd read them. I don't really understand this linking the creator to the work thing. I don't like Kubrick films because I find his personality interesting, the whole idea is bizarre to me in the extreme.


But aren't they interesting by default since he was a major historical figure.
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#7 Jul 03 2014 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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His landscape paintings look lovely on my walls.
I think you got the wrong medium.
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#8 Jul 03 2014 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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I couldn't care less. If Hitler wrote interesting novels, I'd read them. I don't really understand this linking the creator to the work thing. I don't like Kubrick films because I find his personality interesting, the whole idea is bizarre to me in the extreme.


Yeah, I agree, me too, me too.

On a totally unrelated note, I've got a brilliant painting of the Queen by this emerging artist called Rolf Harris. Fancy it?
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#9 Jul 03 2014 at 9:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:
I don't like Kubrick films because I find his personality interesting, the whole idea is bizarre to me in the extreme.

You're working in the wrong direction. It's not about liking a work because you find the artist interesting in some unrelated fashion. It's about not wanting to patronize the artist due to non-artistic reasons. Presumably because you don't want to lend them the money or exposure or simply because thinking about their personal deeds limits your enjoyment.
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#10 Jul 03 2014 at 9:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't remember the last time I cared enough about any artist to get derailed by their problematic personal life.
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#11 Jul 03 2014 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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I answered "yes" because in my younger days that's something I would have done.

Nowadays, no. I'm not going to defend Polanski, but neither am I going to boycott his work because he's a reprehensible human being.

If I boycotted music made by artists who do things I consider immoral, I'd live in a silent world.
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#12 Jul 03 2014 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, I am boycotting Orson Scout Card, more due to the fact that the last novel I read of his, was so poorly written, you could think that it was written by the same guy that wrote "Speaker of the Dead." "Empire" read too much like a poorly written Ayn Rand novel.

I won't go burn the books of his that I already own, but I won't be supporting him by even checking out his books from the library anymore. Thankfully the copy of Empire I did read was from the library. Sadly they still have it for impressional idiots to read. As to MZB, I've lied her books, but since she dead, I don't expect there will be any more books written for me to boycott.
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#13 Jul 03 2014 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I answered "yes" because in my younger days that's something I would have done.

Nowadays, no. I'm not going to defend Polanski, but neither am I going to boycott his work because he's a reprehensible human being.

If I boycotted music made by artists who do things I consider immoral, I'd live in a silent world.
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#15 Jul 03 2014 at 9:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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As to MZB, I've lied her books, but since she dead, I don't expect there will be any more books written for me to boycott.

I was unaware that she was deceased and think I wrote about her in the present tense. Not that it matters for the poll question but error acknowledged anyway.
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#16 Jul 03 2014 at 9:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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#17 Jul 03 2014 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
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I just watched Ender's Game last weekend. I've read a ton of MZB's stuff. Though I didn't know of her sordid lifestyle at the time.

I guess I don't really check out an author/director/artist before consuming their stuff.
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#18 Jul 03 2014 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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I didn't realize that, either.

I remember liking "Mists of Avalon" back in the day, mostly because it inverted a familiar story to tell it from a different point of view. It's the first example I can remember of an author doing that, and it appealed to the young Samira who used to demand to know more about the witch in a given story.
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#19 Jul 03 2014 at 10:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aren't good artists supposed to have problems anyway? I though some kind of traumatic experience or mental illness was almost a prerequisite.
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Samira wrote:
the young Samira who used to demand to know more about the witch in a given story.

So you're to blame for Wicked.
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#21 Jul 03 2014 at 10:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aren't good artists supposed to have problems anyway?

Well, not all problems are equal. You might feel differently about a guy who doesn't bathe and wears tissue boxes on his feet versus one who eats neighborhood children.
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#22 Jul 03 2014 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, there's a difference between a tortured artist and a torturing artist, although there's probably a fair amount of overlap. Polanski is a good example.
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#23 Jul 03 2014 at 10:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
although there's probably a fair amount of overlap.

Spoken like someone who has never tried to chase neighborhood children while wearing tissue box slippers.
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#24 Jul 03 2014 at 10:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, there's your error. You don't chase neighborhood children. You lure them.

What, do you think I made my house out of gingerbread because I like sticky walls?
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#25 Jul 03 2014 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
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Hannibal Lecter or Howard Hughes, huh.
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#26 Jul 03 2014 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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Ideologies be damned, who could keep this off their wall.
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