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#27 Jun 25 2014 at 12:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just as accountable, just assumed to be incompetent.... Trust me, I spent hours a day with stay at home moms. If they haven't met me before, they immediately assume I'm seconds away from killing the children at all times.
Ugh, ain't it the truth.
Count to ten.
That's too old school. These days you count backwards from 5 to calm down. Smiley: nod
Is counting backwards that much harder for most people that you could cut the cooldown time in half?
Everything moves at a faster pace these days. Smiley: disappointed

The "once per episode" part.

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#28 Jun 25 2014 at 1:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Anyway, I'm still catching up on this thing. They're claiming it was intentional now and the dad was faking an accident?
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#29 Jun 25 2014 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
Anyway, I'm still catching up on this thing. They're claiming it was intentional now and the dad was faking an accident?

Smoke another one, Tommy.
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#30 Jun 25 2014 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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All I know is what I read.

I'm a puppet like that. Smiley: rolleyes
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#31 Jun 25 2014 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyway, I'm still catching up on this thing. They're claiming it was intentional now and the dad was faking an accident?

Well, not to go all Gbaji and read wild fantasy into minor omission, there does seem to be a marked lack of information about the cause of death. May turn out there was some other cause of death and the kid was dead prior to the whole car thing. Or not, again, that's wild guessing on my part.
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#32 Jun 25 2014 at 2:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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All good, wild guesses can be fun and amusing at times.
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#33 Jun 25 2014 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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All I know is what I read.

I'm a puppet like that. Smiley: rolleyes

Interesting. The paper makes quite a deal about it being murder but, as far as I can tell, it's all based on this:
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But the story of the hapless father making an innocent mistake quickly changed as police released more details.
"Within moments of the first responders getting to the scene and doing their job and questions began to be asked about the moments that led up to their arrival at the scene, some of those answers were not making sense to the first responders," Pierce said.
What were the details??!?!

This thread wasn't about any case in particular though. The one article I linked was about two different car-babies.
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All I know is what I read.
That's a pretty articulate article that doesn't really say a single thing.
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#35 Jun 25 2014 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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What were the details??!?!
Details only get in the way of a good story line. But yeah, it's all a "we don't know what happened, but he's been charged with murder so let's speculate!" kind of thing. Why mess with something that works for you?

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This thread wasn't about any case in particular though. The one article I linked was about two different car-babies.
It's an epidemic!

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http://wreg.com/2014/06/25/source-dad-searched-how-long-it-takes-animal-to-die-in-hot-car-before-child-left-in-hot-car/
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#38 Jun 25 2014 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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Here's the Washington Post article that lays out why it's a brain error and not just carelessness. (It's also a devastating read): http://wapo.st/SOwhu8

Though I still think it could be useful to at least charge them with some level of negligence. Might at least act as a preventive measure - once you've become aware of the risk of this happening, there are steps you can take to prevent it. E.g, leaving a large teddy bear in the carseat, and moving it into the front seat when the baby is occupying it. Or putting your cell phone in the back, so that you'll have to go back there to retrieve and and see the baby (also added bonus of preventing you from using it while driving).


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#39 Jun 25 2014 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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It's also a devastating read

It's also complete ********* There is no cognitive error that causes people to leave children in cars. Certainly not a common one that can be explained with ****** metaphor by a human interest story. It's not losing your keys a lot. It's a catastrophic error several orders of magnitude beyond that and it happens AMAZINGLY INFREQUENTLY. Far, far, far, far, far too infrequently for the explanation in this article to have any merit. At all. It's borderline irresponsible, honestly.
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It was probably PMS.

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#42 Jun 26 2014 at 9:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Was she a "back then" storyline? I can never keep up with the whole fantasy timelines thing and the way some of them try to squeeze themselves into reality.
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#43 Jun 30 2014 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Lazy update: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/warrants-cobb-toddlers-mom-also-researched-kids-dy/ngWJW/
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#44 Jun 30 2014 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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I doubt they'll get a jury to convict.
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It's interesting from a legal standpoint; what kind of evidence do internet search records provide?

Is it strange that this guys internet search records were sought and retrieved so quickly after the actual incident?

When I think of how much stupid stuff I search. One of those searches could somehow implicate me in most any crime.
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#46 Jun 30 2014 at 9:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wouldn't worry, I imagine many of the things people search for on the internet are probably not things that would look particularly good without proper context.

But yeah, you'd have to think they're trying to poke around and see if there's other supporting evidence, or if he said something stupid to someone or left any loose ends. Short of that though, an internet search isn't really strong evidence. I imagine the story carries well though, as the whole "something you felt was private just became public in the worst way" storyline is a good draw for eyeballs.
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#47 Jul 03 2014 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Or maybe some things don't look good regardless of the context...

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Justin Ross Harris messaged six women, sending and receiving explicit texts -- some including nude images -- from work while his 22-month-old was dying in a hot car, a detective testified Thursday in the father's hearing on murder and child cruelty charges.

Harris' attorney repeatedly objected to Cobb County, Georgia, police Detective Phil Stoddard's testimony regarding Harris sexting the women -- one of whom was 17 -- but the judge allowed it because it was a probable cause hearing.

In addition to the charges he faces in connection with his son's death, Harris may be charged with felony sexual exploitation of a minor and misdemeanor illegal contact with a minor, Stoddard said.
Oops. Smiley: rolleyes
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I like how the age of consent in Georgia is 16, but the age for sexual exploitation is 18. You can @#%^ 'em, but God help you if she sends you a topless photo. And yes, I get the reason. Distribution. I'm not saying I disagree, just find it amusing.

Is there anything other than this guy being skivvy and Google that points to his guilt? So far I see criminal negligence and child endangerment/neglect as certainties. Oh, and the whole cell phone ******* from Georgia's Gray Area.

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In the end it doesn't matter what he was doing when his son was left in the car, right? Had he been working diligently on a project that could cure cancer, or ************ to a bunch of pictures of a naked 17 year old...
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#50 Jul 03 2014 at 2:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Given the hodgepodge and contradictory nature of all those kinds of laws in the 15-18 range across most states I'm surprised more high school students don't end up in jail. Smiley: rolleyes
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#51 Jul 03 2014 at 2:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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In the end it doesn't matter what he was doing when his son was left in the car, right?
Well not for most things, but in this case it means he's pretty much screwed even if they don't charge him with anything related to his kid's death.
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