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#102 Jun 12 2014 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR wrote:
"End out" is not correct.


Say's who? I've used the two phrases interchangeably my entire life and until a couple months ago when Smash suddenly started making a big deal out of it, no one has *ever* commented on it.

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We know what he is trying to say.


Precisely. So what's the problem?

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But regardless of what it may actually mean in English the correct terms are either "end up" or "turn out".


These are phrases, not words. It's not like I'm saying "irregardless" or something. "end out" is a combination of two words, both of which have meanings that logically combine in the phrase "end out" to be quite clear as to the meaning of the phrase.

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I didn't notice it until yesterday but a forum search of the "end out" phrase is pretty much all him or people replying to him with quotes. And apparently he uses it a lot.


Yup. Never had anyone suggest it was incorrect to do so. So one might question why this suddenly is an issue right now? Bit absurd, even if one is going the grammar **** direction.
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#103 Jun 12 2014 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi, ********** We've completed the conversation. Which part of that was confusing to you?

1. You responding to a completed conversation.
2. You trying to deny common knowledge
3. Whether or not you are an intellectual individual that is fed up with stupid people or an idiot saturating his posts with barbs to intimidate others not to challenge you. I'm leaning toward the latter.
4. Your vow to never respond to me seems to be nonexistent

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I will not be replying to any of the content of your additional posts.

Smiley: rolleyesYou have heard that before....Smiley: lol

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I realize you lack the self awareness to admit being wrong, but I also lack the interest in continuing such a discussion. The good news is that you're so obviously catastrophically wrong, that pretty much anyone else can pick up the thread if they're so inclined.


You do realize that any truly curious person can just Google the pros and successes of corporal punishment, right? You obviously have no substance, only fueling my observation of you.
#104 Jun 12 2014 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Yup. Never had anyone suggest it was incorrect to do so.

This constant restating of your lack of education doesn't seem worthwhile. No one is under the impression that you are well educated. I imagine there are whole swaths of knowledge that you're entirely ignorant of. I mean, critical thinking for an obvious start.
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You have heard that before

Heard? Did you mean "said"? Regardless, you'll notice I'm not responding to the content of your posts. As previously indicated. Going forward I won't respond at all, as had been my previous inclination for the past few months. I was feeling generous, and where you were speaking from your own cultural experience thought I'd offer you some insight. Clearly a mistake on my part. Won't happen again, have no fear. Enjoy the silence.
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#106 Jun 12 2014 at 5:45 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
"End out" is not correct.


Say's who? I've used the two phrases interchangeably my entire life and until a couple months ago when Smash suddenly started making a big deal out of it, no one has *ever* commented on it.


I barely skim the majority of the content of the essay length posts people post here, and largely ignore Smash's "you're an idiot" rants of a post, beyond maybe the first line or two occasionally (we all know what he's going to say when he starts replying to people). The only reason I happened to notice it was because it was one of the few times you posted a single sentence, and it really stuck out. I skimmed it and thought to myself, "Wait, what?"

If it had been buried in the usual walls of back and forth, I would have never noticed it.
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You were responding to smash saying he wasn't being fair, because other people had made mistakes as well.


Setting aside the word use, the point he was making was valid. Whether it's an incorrect usage or a mistake, others make far more of them in their posts than I do. Smash is just threatened by my massively superior intellect and thus has to find any tiny little thing to try to focus negative attention towards me, so as to distract from his own failings. It's a classic approach to dealing with one's own feelings of inadequacy. Not really much more to say about that.

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"End up" isn't a literal phrase, so I don't think you can really call one way more correct when they both come to the same meaning.


Yup. Hence my theory that Smash brought this up a while ago purely because of some need to find something to attack me over. It's kind of bizarre really. Like I said, I've used that particular expression my entire life and never once considered it unusual, nor that it wasn't completely descriptive within itself. It's a phrase, not a word. Phrases don't necessarily have individual meanings. They are combinations of words that do. There's no such thing as a list of "correct phrases", and Smash suggesting this is strange to say the least.

Smash is literally (yup, going there) the first person I've encountered in my life who thought this word usage was incorrect. So to me, he's the one being strange with his language skills. As a side note, I actually find the phrase "end up" to be awkward. It just always struck me as being at odds with the idiomatic usage (hence why it needs to be an idiom to work since the words themselves don't make sense together). Call me strange maybe, but "end out" make far far more sense to me as the word choice to use there. It doesn't need to be an idiom for the same reason the words "ham sandwich" don't need to be.
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TirithRR wrote:
The only reason I happened to notice it was because it was one of the few times you posted a single sentence, and it really stuck out. I skimmed it and thought to myself, "Wait, what?"


Why? I honestly don't know why anyone would have an issue with that word use. I can find nothing to indicate it's incorrect usage. It's just not a set idiom. But idioms exist because they are combinations of words that don't make sense by themselves, but obtain a meaning with common usage. Using two words together in a manner which clearly indicates their combined meaning does not require anything more to be "correct" than that fact.

There are an infinite combination of words in language. They are all "correct" if the reader understands the intent of the writer. Did you understand what I wrote? Then it is correct.

Edited, Jun 12th 2014 4:55pm by gbaji
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Setting aside the word use, the point he was making was valid. Whether it's an incorrect usage or a mistake, others make far more of them in their posts than I do.

I correct other posters all the time. Any time I notice, really. Certainly if they continue to *intentionally* use words no fit sentence together furiously. I'm kidding, actually, no one else is enough of a douchebag to do that, but I assure you that if they did, I would notice.


Smash is literally (yup, going there) the first person I've encountered in my life who thought this word usage was incorrect.


Followed rapidly by everyone else here, oddly. I assume it's their wanton fear of me and desire to belong to that crazy hip in crowd of people using the language properly.

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#110 Jun 12 2014 at 5:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's one of those things that if I heard it in a conversation I probably wouldn't notice or think anything of, but looks kinda weird when spelled out.

"Kinda" is another good example, while on the subject. Smiley: lol
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#111 Jun 12 2014 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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It's one of those things that if I heard it in a conversation I probably wouldn't notice or think anything of, but looks kinda weird when spelled out.


On the other hand, people I've heard use the word "kinda" in conversation or writing....greater than 1. "End out"...pretty much 1. I sort of assumed it was some sort of annoying "solutionize" consultant buzzword, but no, just one man's quest against common understanding.
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#112 Jun 12 2014 at 6:02 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Why?


It's OK, everyone does it. Mistakenly uses wrong words, etc. Did people understand what I meant? Yes. Doesn't make it correct just because they understood.

I guess I could have argued that I really meant sediment, like I was just "settling" around the house, not moving, building up...
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#113 Jun 12 2014 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess I could have argued that I really meant sediment, like I was just "settling" around the house, not moving, building up...

Right, and then continued to use it that way, frequently, refusing to use the correct vernacular and arguing that your usage was equally correct.

Just kidding, who would actually do that??
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They are all "correct" if the reader understands the intent of the writer. Did you understand what I wrote? Then it is correct.
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Setting aside the word use, the point he was making was valid. Whether it's an incorrect usage or a mistake, others make far more of them in their posts than I do.

I correct other posters all the time. Any time I notice, really.


And sometimes even when they're not incorrect.

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Certainly if they continue to *intentionally* use words no fit sentence together furiously.


Good thing you correct people's grammar there Smash. WTF?

Assuming you meant to suggest that I intentionally misuse that phrase, I assure you, I don't. I've used it my entire life, and it honestly never occurred to me that anyone might consider it odd, much less incorrect until you first mentioned it a couple months ago. I remember thinking at the time "What a prick. There's nothing wrong with that usage". Then you made the same correction a couple times more over time and I have continued to assume you were just being a pompous jerk and/or hoping that if you claim something enough times, others will join you in some kind of groupthink experiment or something.

And for the record, given the sheer number of times I have to guess at what the hell you're trying to say because you've butchered the English language so badly (see above), you hardly have the high ground on proper/correct English writing skills. You're not quite Varus or Alma level terrible, but pretty darn close.

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Smash is literally (yup, going there) the first person I've encountered in my life who thought this word usage was incorrect.


Followed rapidly by everyone else here, oddly. I assume it's their wanton fear of me and desire to belong to that crazy hip in crowd of people using the language properly.


I'd assume that Tirrith remembered (consciously or not) you questioning the usage and thus questioned it when he saw it as well. It's why I responded to his post the way I did. Kinda got that "dogpile on gbaji over a nitpick" feel out of the whole thing. Wouldn't be the first time.
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#116 Jun 12 2014 at 6:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Did you understand what I wrote? Then it is correct.

The Shadowrelm Defense.

Next, he'll compare himself to Shakespeare and ee cummings.
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I'd assume that Tirrith remembered (consciously or not) you questioning the usage and thus questioned it when he saw it as well. It's why I responded to his post the way I did. Kinda got that "dogpile on gbaji over a nitpick" feel out of the whole thing. Wouldn't be the first time.

Haha, yes, that was it. Also, post hypnotic suggestion at our weekly "Gbaji steering committee" where we plan out our method of attack for the coming week. Joph wanted to stick with your utter lack of basic research skills, but I insisted that we go with "end out". Turns up I maked the goodest choosing.
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Next, he'll compare himself to Shakespeare and ee cummings.

Proust. Neither of those to have the sort of word volume required. Proust takes 40,000 words to describe socks.
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Turns up I maked the goodest choosing.

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gbaji wrote:
I'd assume that Tirrith remembered (consciously or not) you questioning the usage and thus questioned it when he saw it as well. It's why I responded to his post the way I did. Kinda got that "dogpile on gbaji over a nitpick" feel out of the whole thing. Wouldn't be the first time.

It's possible, one of those subliminal things. Like sneaking a frame or two of popcorn, snacks, and sodas throughout a movie to make people buy it. Smash sneaks little key words in his rants and it influences even those that barely read the posts, secretly guiding the forums to be what he wishes them to be.

Do I actually remember Smash calling you out on it beyond this thread? No. (Believe it if you want, doesn't bother me either way).
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Smash wrote:
Heard? Did you mean "said"?


This is how I make most of my mistakes. I originally wrote "I've heard that before", but I wanted it to be known that it was specifically from you. So, I meant to change it to "You said that before", but I didn't fully change the previously written sentence. Thank you for your correction.

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you'll notice I'm not responding to the content of your posts.
You're just giving yourself wiggle room to respond and then request forgiveness for "slipping" later when you get called out.

You don't like leaving a conversation when you're obviously on the defense, so you would rather crudely respond to something in order to make it appear that you are on the offense. By removing the actual content, you no longer actually have to substantiate anything, making it easier for you to appear to be on top.

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where you were speaking from your own cultural experience thought I'd offer you some insight.


I made no implication on my experience, that was your own personal inference due to your ignorance on corporal punishment. Since you're ignorant on the topic, you assumed that I must be talking about personal experiences, because no one else have the same sentiments or experiences. Rookie mistake.

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They are all "correct" if the reader understands the intent of the writer. Did you understand what I wrote? Then it is correct.
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Except that both of the words I used are actual words, with actual meanings, which when combined as they were clearly act as a verb phrase with precisely the meaning I intended. The words were spelled correctly, followed correct grammatical rules, and correctly conveyed to the reader the intended meaning. So what the hell is the problem?
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Except that both of the words I used are actual words, with actual meanings, which when combined as they were clearly act as a verb phrase

I wish I could believe that your were clever enough to do this on purpose.

I don't.
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#125 Jun 12 2014 at 6:20 PM Rating: Good
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I'd assume that Tirrith remembered (consciously or not) you questioning the usage and thus questioned it when he saw it as well. It's why I responded to his post the way I did. Kinda got that "dogpile on gbaji over a nitpick" feel out of the whole thing. Wouldn't be the first time.

It's possible, one of those subliminal things. Like sneaking a frame or two of popcorn, snacks, and sodas throughout a movie to make people buy it. Smash sneaks little key words in his rants and it influences even those that barely read the posts, secretly guiding the forums to be what he wishes them to be.

Do I actually remember Smash calling you out on it beyond this thread? No. (Believe it if you want, doesn't bother me either way).


It's just a theory. Smiley: nod

I just found it really odd that I know that I've used this particular word combination for the entire time I've posted on this forum (so around 15 years) and have *never* had anyone suggest it was incorrect usage (or even mention it). Then, just in the last few months, Smash mentions it a couple times (hell, might even just have been once), and I thought "Huh. That's strange. Why's he upset about this? There's nothing wrong with that usage". Then I saw you do it, and was like "Two people in a short period of time? Either someone recently wrote a grammar book declaring that phrase to be verboten, or Tirrith picked up on what Smash said and is going with it".

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you've always thought "end out" was incorrect and have corrected anyone who used it. Or maybe Smash made a huge deal about how wrong it was and that I should stop using that word combination, it stuck with you, and when you saw it this time, you assumed it must be wrong but couldn't remember when or why you came to believe it. No way for me to know which is the case, but I find it beyond coincidence that in my entire life of using this word combination, I've never had anyone tell me it was incorrect, and then suddenly two people do in a relatively short period of time? That's "odd" to say the least, right?
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