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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well, if you're gonna have a guard dog, you've gotta walk, and feed it occasionally.
These are the good Zeebrucian values that we need to instill in our children to prevent them from mistreating animals.
These are the good Zeebrucian values that we need to instill in our children to prevent them from mistreating animals.
Just as Planned.
I had thought about giving a long winded reply to your response and decided it just wasn't even worth my time.I have better things that I can do with it.you are so far gone on the kool-aid that there's no way that I'm going to change your mind even if I wanted to,and I'm more than content in my own ways being as happy as I have been in my entire life, feeling as confident as one can while raising three spirited boys, that your proselytizing is ineffective. While you say you will try you have already shown that unfortunately, you are a judgemental hypocrite. Harsh, but as far as evidence shows, also true. And with that said, I think it's time to end this particular side of the discussion before something is said that causes irreconcilable side effects
Relevent.
Maybe NSFW. Maybe.
Edited, Jun 7th 2014 9:12pm by lolgaxe
Maybe NSFW. Maybe.
Edited, Jun 7th 2014 9:12pm by lolgaxe
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Kelvy wrote:
To paraphrase somebody: There is a God shaped void in all of us.. and it cannot be quenched by anything but God.
You want a cat in you? 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
You want a cat in you?
He may not want it but he needs it if he ever wants to be whole.
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
I'd **** a snow leopard if we could cuddle afterwards.
Kavekk wrote:
I'd @#%^ a snow leopard if we could cuddle afterwards.
Furry.
Just as Planned.
Jophiel wrote:
You want a cat in you?
Must be Vietnamese. Or Korean. I forget which racial stereotype fits here.
Edited, Jun 9th 2014 1:25am by stupidmonkey
Dandruffshampoo wrote:
Curses, beaten by Professor stupidopo-opo.
Annabella, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Stupidmonkey is more organized than a bag of raccoons.
Jophiel wrote:
You want a cat in you?
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
You want a cat in you?
You can brush them, you know. You don't have to lick the fur off.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Brushing them daily and they still leave hair all over everything.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
In the same way Kelvy wants god inside him, so not literally.
You sure about that?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Kelvy wrote:
To paraphrase somebody: There is a God shaped void in all of us.. and it cannot be quenched by anything but God.
I think the void in people is what we don't know.
Filling your void with some goofy god is like filling your stomach with a box of Fruit Loops - NO nutritional value.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
But the void in me is Froot Loop shaped 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
But the void in me is Froot Loop shaped
Got milk?
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
Filling your void with some goofy god is like filling your stomach with a box of Fruit Loops - NO nutritional value.
Each serving of Froot Loops has 25% of your daily value of Riboflavin. You won't call that "NO nutritional value" when it comes time to time travel.
DSD wrote:
I had thought about giving a long winded reply to your response and decided it just wasn't even worth my time.I have better things that I can do with it.you are so far gone on the kool-aid that there's no way that I'm going to change your mind even if I wanted to,and I'm more than content in my own ways being as happy as I have been in my entire life, feeling as confident as one can while raising three spirited boys, that your proselytizing is ineffective. While you say you will try you have already shown that unfortunately, you are a judgemental hypocrite. Harsh, but as far as evidence shows, also true. And with that said, I think it's time to end this particular side of the discussion before something is said that causes irreconcilable side effects
Clearly I have drank so much Kool-Aid that it's pretty much replaced my blood, so yeah. If standing by my view and refusing to pander and lie to people by telling them that I think that all of our views are universally compatible and that there are no consequences to these things makes me a hypocrite them sign me right up.
Side effects? You forget that I am looking for side effects from what I am saying, but I appreciate what you mean, I truly do. I just have to point out that you have already asserted that you are unable to change my mind which of course assumes that it is my mind that needs changing as well. At least we may be considered equal I think in the judgmental hypocrite department no? I am still not sure what the evidence is of my being a hypocrite unless you are just automatically classifying me and basing that statement on in individual based your personal experiences with the group.. However I am not seeking a confrontation with you in saying these things. The things that I choose to comment on in here are my own business. If those comments happen to be an open display (disgusting in your eyes) of my views as I personally relate to it then I can do nothing by post what I post. I'm not trying to sound like a zealot though a zealot I may be in your eyes. Indeed, I am aware of the types views here that differ from my own and am fully aware that people are going to get all bent out of shape about it.. what's really changed now? (other that I'm openly disagreeing with you on this one thing) ; but quite honestly, this place could use a shakeup... not that I'm really doing much of that anyway.. but if people choose to respond to my rantings (religion in nature or not) is totally up to them or they can not respond to it, rate it down, whatever and be done with it. This particular thing is a sensitive subject having to do with children. Add religion in the mix and it's a powder-keg. Like I said, I'm aware of that, but I'm still thinking that the No Holds Barred thing still applies here without religious discrimination. Everyone has an equal right to get flamed here.
I think you would say that the thing that makes me such an anathema and makes your stance the
It's kind of amazing to me how perfectly designed Christianity is to really cause people to cause this mind of hostility to itself.. but I suppose some of the problem is that not many Christians are attracted to hangouts such as this. You guys just got lucky with me. This is what happens when you spend so much time away from the big Asylum. who know what kind of crazy religions you're gonna pick up and come home with?
Yeah, you're the gbaji of spirituality around here.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Kelvyquayo wrote:
but I suppose some of the problem is that not many Christians are attracted to hangouts such as this.
I guess it's not like a lot of people are attracted to a place like this in general. You know, going by the large number of different people posting here everyday and all. That being said even in this thread I've counted several Christians, and several others have identified themselves as such over the years. Even more have at least been part of the a church over the years.
It not like Christians are rare around here by any means.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
SomeProteinGuy wrote:
Ethics is nothing more than mankind's attempt to rationalize their herd/pack instinct. Correct moral behavior will nearly always be what a person's instincts tell them is in the best interests of their self-defined herd. Justification and attempted universalization of the behavior is little more than an attempt to improve the survivability of one's genes through social coercion.
Can we look back at and consider how it was? Most of recorded human history is a catalog of unethical behavior. There may have been little sprinklings of niceties such as the artwork and diversities of cultures that we may be inspired by in various ways.. however such things are dwarfed by the total barbarity of human history and I daresay it's no stretch to assume that prehistoric man was much better. I want to be fair. I do not think that there has to be some set of stages that a civilization has to be going through for the mere sake of reaching some arbitrary goal set by our own personal cultural and technological standards. People are how they are where they are and it is a wondrous thing. Some tribes of people do not even have a word or concept for time. People then point their fingers and talk about how backwards and unsophisticated they are when they have other concepts that no one else could ever comprehend. Long ago I had stopped viewing various cultures around the world in terms of levels or degrees of advancement in technology. It's just not feasible unless we really are willing to invalidate the cultures of millions of people across the globe.
I'm just saying that out of all of that history and pre-history when people were sacrificing their kids to shadows and statues and eventually there is recorded evidence that the the Hebrew tribes alone in all of history had the concept that every single thing that these people were worshiping was false (and can you argue that religions that call for human sacrifice aren't false(ie not from any sane sentient God?)
The Hebrew concept of One God alone is unique in all of history. One would have thought that such a seemingly logical progression of belief systems that some other culture would have had a God that was alone and completely without an image and that is completely all powerful and all knowing that forbade human sacrifice and forbade the worshiping of false images, and had all of the laws regarding property and ensuring fairness in business and tribal affairs... How to maintain and hold together as a Nation and ultimately through Christianity those values that we now take for granted were spread throughout the world..
I am not saying that other tribes and nations in existence didn't have their own elaborate laws and belief systems.. but what I am saying is: look at the result. The Jewish people still exist among all of the ancient nations of that world that sprang out of Mesopotamia. If you really consider the odds of a people maintaining as a race that have had the history that Israel has had? All other nations are pages in books and spectacles in museums or turned to dust.. new nations rose up and fell and always with the Jews and always with their One God.. The Babylonians, The Medes, The Persians, The Ptolomaics, The Selukids, the Romans, and finally the rest of the Goyim across the planet.. Yet always with the Jews and always with their God.. How are they still around when the whole world hates them? There aren't even that many Jews compared to the rest of the worlds religions.. and yet here all this influence.. Christianity and Islam the worlds 2 largest religions came out of that. At one time or another both sides of the continent have sought to get rid of the Jews.. it's recorded in the TaNaCH and it's well recorded throughout history and hatred for Jews still remains and yet through all of recorded human history, one nation of people has sustained through it all. To top it all of.. all of their oldest religious writing actually say that their One God preserve Israel to the end of the earth.
Is it not uncanny?
Bijou wrote:
For a particular value of mainstream, I guess?
Actually, yes. I forgot to include Catholic and Catholic Lite et al in that. My mistake.
Bijou wrote:
I think it's swell you've got a relationship with Jesus but you are terribly lacking in scriptural and historic knowledge.
Honestly, dude, and I mean this in the nicest way, but you don't know what you're talking about. I don't prefer to try to prove your error here but if anything that I say here, Bijou, O my Brother in Christ, is somehow contrary to any scripture then I plead in you in all sincerity to point out the error of my way. Surely YOU a fellow Christian could not stand by and see Our Lord's Word be misrepresented by some unlearned fool like me. It's kind of your duty to do that.
I more and more suspect that you are one of those people that are nominally Christians simply because if safe to call themselves that in their particular environment.. like so many Americans that call themselves Christians simply because they are American. Boilerplate default religion. I don't know. I try to make no assumptions about people(and often fail) but I see no evidence to the contrary that you aren't just another smorgasbord Christian.. only picking out the bits that you like and ignoring the really hard questions.. but like I said. I don't know. If we meet one day in glory I'll let you criticize my theological knowledge for a billion years over.
Timelordwho wrote:
Afterward, there were many more blood sacrifices on the altar of ecclesial supremacy.
That was the work of misguided humans sacrificing to the altar of their greed and lust, same as it ever was.
The work of God on an individuals heart is what matters and it should be quite clear that all of these so called Christian popes and war-mongers were certainly NOT guided by Christ. You do realize that it is very possible for a person to take an idea and twist it into a way to justify their own desires? It's a straw man really.
Timelordwho wrote:
That practice stopped with the Christians Church, of course.
One word: Abortion.
Timelordwho wrote:
No true Scotsman would ever slay another, Scotsmen are all righteous, upstanding people. Anyone who violates this rule is not a Scotsman, but an impostor. Therefore, we should spread the Scottish line to all corners of the globe.
Ok, if I have a football (right?) and tell you that all people that are redeemed by Christ could possibly kick the ball in the goalposts from 10,000 meters away and then you come and let people kick the ball at 10 meters and tell me that they are people redeemed by Christ.. that I might call "true Christians".
On the other hand if you tell me that Christians are just as brutal as any religion and yet I may them point out that the God of the Bible is the only God in all of recorded history that claimed to be the One True God and then told people specifically to STOP sacrificing humans, to love your enemies, and despite being omniscient and omnipotent manifested as a human in the flesh and allowed Himself to be tortured and murdered by those that He created out of love. Then you assert that these ideas of compassion, mercy, and love are not actually Christianity because Christianity is actually defined by the actions and interpretations of human beings rather than the actual Bible.
The Christian cultural and denominational ideologies all came out of people stiffneckedly trying to bend and subvert the very simple message of Christ to their own lives and their own wills. Such things are inevitable and such flaws come with all human ideologies. Salvation, on the other hand is a state of being. You are saved. It's not something that you do, it's something that you are. Sounds like voodoo quackery to some, to others it is the initiation into the transformation into a new creation.
Take it or leave it.
God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son."
Abe said, "Man, you must be putting me on."
God said, "No." Abe said, "What?"
God said, "You can do what you want to, but
next time you see me comin' you better run."
Abe said, "Where you want this killin' done?"
God said, "Out on Highway 61."
Abe said, "Man, you must be putting me on."
God said, "No." Abe said, "What?"
God said, "You can do what you want to, but
next time you see me comin' you better run."
Abe said, "Where you want this killin' done?"
God said, "Out on Highway 61."
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Wow, God's kind of a ****. It's a good thing he doesn't exist.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Kelvyquayo wrote:
I think you would say that the thing that makes me such an anathema and makes your stance the
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Obviously my stance demands that there is a right and a wrong way of looking at it and if it happens to occur that Me being Right must logically mean that Others are wrong
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but my motive here isn't to proselytize.
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It's kind of amazing to me how perfectly designed Christianity is to really cause people to cause this mind of hostility to itself..
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
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