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If I go vote at prime time I'll wait in line for 15-20 mins. If I can get in during the day, there's no wait. I live in a town of about 3500 people though.

I've never waited more than five or so minutes.

Good thing, too, with all the big scary thugs hangin' around outside. They might get bored and leave if I take too long.

So, do the thugs get in the car with you, so you have your full voting experience? I'm confused.

Actually, having read the cracked article, that's more or less exactly what they should be asking. The point of the article is that people need to stop thinking that "being nice" matters more than "providing something of value to the other person". So asking "what can we do to make us more appealing/valuable to women voters" is doing exactly what Wong says to do. Trying to make women like them more is the wrong thing to do (according to Wong anyway), because (as he puts it) "I want a doctor helping me if I'm injured, not just someone who's likable".



That's more a matter of where you think the problem lies. I happen to agree that the first step to winning women voters is to counter the messaging that the Left puts out there that equates specific positions on specific issues as "pro" women, with those positions conveniently happening to be the Liberal ones. Sometimes standing up and saying "Um... But that doesn't actually benefit women" is the right thing to do. And I happen to think that the Republican party has been horrific at messaging in this area (a few areas actually).

We should be educating women as to how our polices are better for women than those of the Dems. And that starts with challenging the assumptions that are out there already. It's a bit of an uphill battle, but the alternative is to win voters by becoming liberal. Which is kinda not an option.



Sure. But with the messaging caveat that "equal pay for equal work" means just that, and not the silly statistical manipulation that the Left often employs. The Right needs to show women that the Left makes empty promises and plays games with statistics to make it look like their policies are pro-women when they actually aren't. It needs to show them that if women really want equality, and not the Left's twisted version of it, then the Right has the better answers for them.

Edited, May 7th 2014 5:15pm by gbaji

A great place to start would be to make sure you don't have any legitimate rape nutjobs in your party, those kind of horrible sound bites really need to stop. "A big tent" is all well and good on paper but the actions of individuals in the tent reflect on everyone there.

Stop the bleeding first, cart before the horse, and all those kinds of analogies.

I'm sure the women will be pleased to know that issues like equal pay and reproductive rights aren't really what matters to them. Thankfully, they have the GOP to set them straight. I see a lot of women votes in the GOP's future with this mindset.

No, I'm talking about some consistency here. I'm saying the right has a bad habit of saying a nice appealing thing one day, and then watching it all blow up in their face the next day when some backwater yahoo says something ignorant. Or worse, when some backwater yahoo forces a mainstream candidate to say something ignorant.

You guys are probably on the right track with shortening up your primary season and moving up the convention date. Your moderate message plays relatively well with the American public, but the last thing you need is another election where your candidate has to try darn near reverse the course of the discussion between the primary and general elections. People have no problem hearing your message, but it's not going to make sense if you all aren't on the same page.

Edited, May 7th 2014 9:09pm by someproteinguy

Binders of women aside, the main damage came from idiotic GOP House & Senate candidates who espoused the famous "legitimate rape" and "rape babies are a gift from God" and "women never die from pregnancy in this age" remarks. The issue there is that the GOP refuses to admit when they have a bad deal on their hands and are more afraid of losing the battle than the war. So they rush to defend these idiots so they can try and save a congressional seat and in doing so give the national party a veneer of tacit approval for these views.

To be fair, the "rape babies are a gift from God" was taken out of context. It shouldn't have been said, but his point was misconstrued.

Hence why I said that it shouldn't have been said. I can't think of a way to use the same words without creating a negative connotation. However, a person should realize intent.

It was one of those "human life is always precious" kinds of remarks gone very badly astray.

Either way it was definitely well past the point he should have kept his mouth shut on the issue. How he didn't realize that is beyond me.

God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes
'Cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose

or something like that...

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Fair point. We should criticize him for saying something stupid, but we shouldn't pretend that he meant something else.


Edited, May 8th 2014 6:13pm by Almalieque