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#27 Apr 30 2014 at 5:59 PM Rating: Good
Am I a bad person for laughing at Gbaji asking for a "legitimate source"?
#28 Apr 30 2014 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Technogeek wrote:
Am I a bad person for laughing at Gbaji asking for a "legitimate source"?


Yes. You are a bad man. A Very Bad Man.

Seriously though, there's a difference between requiring a source to back up a factual statement like "Israel said that the PA and Hamas must form a unity government before it'll consider peace", or "Romney only paid 14% of his income in taxes last year", and an opinion like "Higher taxes will tend to slow down economic growth" or "Obama is the most partisan president we've had in my lifetime". I at least hope you can see the difference.
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#29 May 01 2014 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
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Israel has the US firmly on its side, while Palestine doesn't have anyone.


LOL What?

The US and the EU give the PA BILLIONS.
And it has recently been found that they have been using that money to pay freaking terrorists.. but you can do your own homework on that one unless you want to continue blindly hating Jews like most people throughout recorded history.

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But hey I guess I just don't get it. I guess Israel hasn't violated any international laws, that we in the West "pledge" to uphold


You know how in Boston when the entire city was pretty much under martian law and nobody gave a sh*t because "terrorist"..... well that's how this is.. but long term..

but it's easy to be philosophical when your country doesn't have 2 entirely different nations layered over top one another. It's like having 2 kids fighting in one womb.
I certainly cannot and shall not speak for the common Palestinian but they certainly aren't after peace. What does peace mean? To get over your differences? Forget it. Their difference from the Jew is a big part of their culture. The reason so many Arabs immigrated there was to get rid of the Jews. Obviously the largest problem is the religious element which throughout history has either been running that "government" or being run by that "government". The jihad against the Jew will never stop as long as their are fundamentalist Muslims. And the Jews? They just want to be Jews.


Edited, May 1st 2014 10:23pm by Kelvyquayo
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#30 May 01 2014 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Fucking religion, man. Every time.
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#31 May 02 2014 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good
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Martain Law?
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#32 May 02 2014 at 7:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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#33 May 02 2014 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
Considering the context, I almost feel bad I laughed.
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#34 May 03 2014 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Israel has the US firmly on its side, while Palestine doesn't have anyone.


LOL What?

The US and the EU give the PA BILLIONS.
And it has recently been found that they have been using that money to pay freaking terrorists.. but you can do your own homework on that one unless you want to continue blindly hating Jews like most people throughout recorded history.


They give Israel more money then that each year. But money doesn't have much to do with the positions you take in international politics. Don't you find it odd that the only 2 countries ("real countries") in the world who voted against Palestinian statehood were the US and Canada? Or that the US exercises its Veto power anytime the UN decides to put a resolution on Israel for its violation of 1 or more international laws?

Besides lets not forget that Israel controls the taxation of Palestine, and has in the past used taxed money that should go to Palestine in effort to sway government policy making. The last time this happened was in 2011 when Palestine was preparing its bid for statehood.

Sorry that discussing fact is antisemitic.



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You know how in Boston when the entire city was pretty much under martian law and nobody gave a sh*t because "terrorist"..... well that's how this is.. but long term..

but it's easy to be philosophical when your country doesn't have 2 entirely different nations layered over top one another. It's like having 2 kids fighting in one womb.
I certainly cannot and shall not speak for the common Palestinian but they certainly aren't after peace. What does peace mean? To get over your differences? Forget it. Their difference from the Jew is a big part of their culture. The reason so many Arabs immigrated there was to get rid of the Jews. Obviously the largest problem is the religious element which throughout history has either been running that "government" or being run by that "government". The jihad against the Jew will never stop as long as their are fundamentalist Muslims. And the Jews? They just want to be Jews.

Edited, May 1st 2014 10:23pm by Kelvyquayo


Ya the Israeli government has never done anything wrong to the Muslims in Palestine. Ever. Come on man. Pull your head from your ***, and go read some actual @#%^ing facts on this. It is absolutely mind boggling how out of touch some people are regarding this topic. Seriously just spend an hour reading the issues on both sides. Its a two way street. You can not have serious discussions on peace when neither party A) Trusts the other party, or B) is working for their "own" gains.

Israel refuses to recognize Palestine in any capacity, Palestine has already stated (including Hamas) that they will accept Israel and recognize the Jewish state if they return to the 1967 borders (the ones that the UN recognizes as legitimate).

So Israel continues to settle occupied territory, and has the audacity to claim that its because Palestine refuses to accept Israel that this drags on. Come on Kelvy, surely you can see the cart can't pull the horse.



Edited, May 3rd 2014 1:33pm by rdmcandie
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