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#1 Mar 08 2014 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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So my wife bought to new types of coffees that I braved to sample last night which caused me to sit at my computer into the wee hours searching the older files in the depths of my hard-drive.. one of which was my dads old genealogical database.. so hours of mouse clicks later and plenty of ooohs an aaahs that the old names and wills I decided to see if any distant relatives online had done anymore homework for us.. One dead end that I had was an English line from the 15th century with surname Wilbur, Wilbore.. (there may be a pun there somewhere for those reading this thread!).. After looking up some specific dates with the names I was able to go back considerably farther than my dad had gotten.. and I found my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great (that's 16) grandfather's name was Sir John Wyldbore born in 1358 from Yorkshire.
Apparently he likely hunted wild boars so well he was knighted for it Smiley: cool. His coat of arms even has wild boars on it.. go figure..
So that's as far as I have gotten back. Previously it was a German guy who died falling out of a crab apple tree in 1590..

There is another line that the then tried to pursue.. The Cheney's of Maryland that apparently backed the wrong side during the English civil war and had to flee to the New World... I found that this family name goes back to a French(Norman) knight Ralph de Chesney (de Quesnay), l, Sir (c.1044 - c.1086) that fought for William the Conqueror... However there is a break in the records are the 15th century from my lineage to this one.. so I can't honestly trace myself to this guy Smiley: bah

I'm curious on how far back ya'll can go?


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#2 Mar 08 2014 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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My family tree has a twig of a branch attached to Giuseppe Esposito. That's about the extent of known names.
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#3 Mar 08 2014 at 10:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you get back as far as 800, we're all related. So every one of us on Earth is descended from Emperor Charlemagne and Li Song, Yongzhen Emperor.

But you certainly have some fun patrilineal ancestors, and I enjoyed hearing about my distant cousins.
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There were some people really big into geneology on my Dad's side, and they managed to trace us all the way back to the old Welsh Pyrs line and into the royal family, which has documentation of a liniage which (the veracity of which, who knows) supposedly goes all the way back to biblical times. Basically our ancient ancestry goes king of england, king of england, queen of england, younger son who ran off with serving wench and fled to america, and it's gone down hill ever since. Franklin Pierce is in the direct line somewhere (great great great (etc.) uncle or something along those lines), Ulysses S Grant is in there as well. Also Charlamagne and Old king Cole too for what thats worth. No Youngzehn emperors that I know of though.

On my mom's side, we just don't know. There is family in Sweden, and they are related, but they won't tell us why my great great grandpa fled the country. It's implied that he murdered someone and had to get out of sweeden in a hurry. I prefer to think he was a pirate. But we don't know much more than that. and the church that contained all the records for that particlular area of sweeden burned up. So we may never know.
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On my mom's side, we just don't know. There is family in Sweden, and they are related, but they won't tell us why my great great grandpa fled the country. It's implied that he murdered someone and had to get out of sweeden in a hurry. I prefer to think he was a pirate. But we don't know much more than that. and the church that contained all the records for that particlular area of sweeden burned up. So we may never know.


He foresaw the rise of Global Warning and decided to acclimate Sweden's native Wombat population to warmer temperatures. However after paying the boat fare for all of the Wombats he discovered that he forgot to pay his on, and had to run to Australia overland in order to beat the ship. The local villagers decided to call him an animal thief instead of admitting to his wisdom and foresight, and the rest is history.
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My family wasn't allowed to maintain their identities, read, write or speak, so it doesn't go too far back.
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My father's side is a black hole that stops at 1908, when they signed in at Ellis Island.

My mother's side pokes back to pre-Revolutionary times in one branch. I don't know any of the specifics, though, except that they were Tories and fled to Canada.
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My family wasn't allowed to maintain their identities, read, write or speak, so it doesn't go too far back.


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I can trace Father's mothers side of the family to the Mayflower, were I'm descended from Miles Standish, John Alden and Priscilla Mullins. The other branches I can't go more then a few generations back, as they came over from Ireland 3 or 4 generations ago, or few records have been kept by the family.

I do know my great great grandfather Montgomery was apprentice in Northern Ireland, who didn't like either his master or the trade, so tried to run away to America 2 times. The first time he stow away, he was caught and return to his master. The second time his mother helped him stow away and he made it all the way to Ohio or Illinois.

All I know of my mother's father side is that they are descended from one of two Aldrich brothers, that came down the Ohio river to settle in Indiana and one went back east to never be heard from again. Mother's mother was born to a couple that met after arriving in Chicago from Galloway and Co. Mayo, were I may still have family living on the family farm.

I have some Marine Officer brass buttons that belonged to someone, most likely on my father's side, who served after the Civil War. I think I may have figure out who, but need to check Archives in Washington for confirmation. There are also 2 pairs of knickers that go back as far, but can't say who they belong to. One has warranty, still sewn on the waist band, for any repairs only 10 cents. Nice thing about coming from family of pack rats, is that I inherited lots of collectables.
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My family was a bunch of Polacks except for the part that was a bunch of Bohemians. We did have one guy who was a sort of landed minor nobility. When the Communists started coming, he left his land in the care of his head landskeeper and fled for the US with what he could carry. The guy he left in in care of happily sold it to the Communists like fifteen minutes later, moved to the US, opened a store with the money and liked about two blocks from my relative. Awk-ward...

The story of my great-grandparents, which I'm sure I've related before, is that they were both on the same boat and from the same town although they didn't really know one another. But my great-grandfather got to immigration first and was admitted into the country. He then saw my great-grandmother in another line being turned away due to a skin condition she contracted on the trip over. He went back, took her back onto the boat, found a priest and got married on the spot. Went back to yet another line, showed his acceptance papers and that she was his wife and immigration had to let her in as his spouse. They then went on to vehemently dislike one another but stayed married 'cause that's what Polish Catholic immigrant couples from the turn of the century did.

Anyway, I have a second cousin (? - my mom's cousin, whatever the term is there) who is into the family genealogy and gave me some baptismal records from Krakow going back a ways and I think his stuff goes further but there's no links to anyone you'd know in there.

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My family motto should really be "Killing people for money since Oliver Cromwell." It's a pretty boring geological history...unless you enjoy military history. No, nobility, but lots of killing and imperialism. If you are descended from non-European stock, one of my ancestors probably burned your family's house to the ground at some point.

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I'm from European stock, and I'm still making that assumption.

Although I'm not sure how well mud burns, come to think of it. Oh, well, points for trying.
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Hi!! I'm a painfuly white prairie dirt-kicker.

On me Mum's side, Im Irish. Her kin hail from Sligo, a town on a bay in northwest Ireland.

I'm told that the folk from this area are the descendants of a group of Celts in Ye Olde days who were among the last to resist/be assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons.

I invite Mojo (anyone) to correct me if I am wrong, but that's the story this side of the pond.



My dad is a Volga German. Not the fun-loving Lederhose-wearing Bavarians, mind you, but the grumpy Prussian types. (Follow-up research tells me that my last name is Bavarian in origin so maybe we're Lederhose junkies after all. Smiley: tongue)

In the early 1800's the Russians opened up parts of Ukraine/Russia to "homesteaders" if you will. The Russians at the time were starving the people a little worse than usual and needed efficient farming.

So off they went to grow wheat for the Czar Czarina (Catherine). Irrigation being out of the question (for various reasons) they became experts at dry-land farming. A couple-three generations later, the Czar kicked most of them out.

Rather than return to live in Germany, they boarded ship and headed for the USA. Disembarking in New York, they hastened West until they saw land that looked a **** of lot like the steppes they farmed along the Volga River (North and South Dakota, mostly)*.



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I'm from European stock, and I'm still making that assumption.

That's a good point, actually. Unless you're from county Kerry, we probably killed you. Even then, it sort of depended on the day. It can be a little creepy sometimes going back and thinking "Hmm, sociopath, schizophrenic, sociopath, hey normal one!, sadist, sociopath" Amazing I turned out so well adjusted and full of compassion for my fellow man.

Relatively.
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What were they and how were they?

I'm a white western European mutt. I've reason to believe my earliest ancestors selkies.
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I've always wanted to check out my genealogy but haven't yet. All I know is that my maternal grandfather AWOLed at the end of WW2 to stay in England and marry my grandmother. They had my mom and hopped a ship to the US and settled in MI. My great grandparents were supposedly dwarves (grandmothers parents). My maternal grandfather was the second oldest of 21 kids, 17 of which survived. My paternal grandfather arrived as a little boy from Poland and his family shortened their name from Baranowski to Baran. My paternal grandmother was a pianist from Sweden who we think now had bipolar, was sent in and out of mental hospitals and had electroshock therapy. Ever since I knew her she never showed emotion.

I figure if my relatives this close were so interesting that it would be fun to see what else I could dig up further down the line!

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My family motto should really be "Killing people for money since Oliver Cromwell." It's a pretty boring geological history...unless you enjoy military history. No, nobility, but lots of killing and imperialism. If you are descended from non-European stock, one of my ancestors probably burned your family's house to the ground at some point.

Sorry.


It's a small step to from military merc to corporate merc, but quite a leap for mankind.

I'm related to George Aiken, but I've not researched extensively so, I don't know further back.


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That's some pretty extensive tracing. Smiley: eek

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I'm curious on how far back ya'll can go?
Funny I was just talking ancestry stuff last time with my Mom. Apparently my cousin has managed to trace my mom's side back into the 1600's or so in England. The family is still actively working on that (hence the conversation), my mom's most recent role is trying to match old pictures with names, which is really hit and miss as there isn't really many people to ask on that side anymore. One crazy serious about that part aunt is that last one living older than my mother. So some of that may well be lost.

My dad traced the family name back through a couple of different towns in Slovakia. I don't think he ever got past the mid 1800's, but we at least have a good idea where the information would be if we really wanted to find it. The most notable relative I can claim is Oswald Boelcke, through my dad's mom's side. Which is a name that Kao may be familiar with, but I don't know if it'll ring bells for anyone else here.
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We have a pretty extensive reach for one side of my mom's family, but I don't remember much of it. A lot of Scotland, a bunch of Ireland, some Britain, a little bit of Germany, and a smidgen of Alsace-Lorraine.

My dad's side is more interesting, because we can trace directly back to William Wallace's... something. I THINK it was one of his brothers?

Though I can't say I'm a Mel Gibson fan.

I don't remember how far back our new world reach is, though. My mother's father was born here a month or two after his mother and all his siblings arrived off the boat from Scotland, but I don't know much about her mother.

And I have no clue when my dad's family arrived, except that at least one of the two main lines has been in the New World at least since pre-Revolution.

The best part, though, is that all of those nationalities are reflected in my beard. Smiley: lol Got brown, ginger, blonde, etc.
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Mine goes back to 1580 on my Mum's side, and 1642 on Dad's side - other tentative/probable links go further back but I only accept authenticated records to avoid leaps of faith & aspiration. There are a few unscrupulous professional genealogists who will use assumptions and downright fabrications to spice up their searches :-(

I strongly recommend downloading genopro: (genopro.com) & building backwards using your relatives' memories as a base. It's amazing how a strong baseline of uncles, aunts & cousins will help to dis ambiguity which John Smith b. 1866 is the one you're looking for.

Always worth taking older relatives' accounts with a pinch of salt - memory lapses and family **** can cause problems, but use ancestry.com, census data & civil/parish records and you can quickly become engrossed.
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Somebody in my family worked on a genealogy a few decades ago. Don't remember who did it or what it said, but a branch of my family is apparently a very prestigious Bohemian crystal and glassware manufacturer. Other than that all I know is that my family is largely of German descent from all sides.
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Huh. There's a glass/glassware manufacturer in Germany bearing my family's name.

Odd.
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Many people seem to have records to at least 18th century but don't think that the information isn't out there. Hell, before I found this stuff I wouldn't have imagined that my white city-trash Baltimoron **** would have any type of recorded ancestry.. but it only takes one person to put this stuff together and suddenly your family doesn't seem so isolated anymore..
(Not that this will cause my family to stop being so distant or that I'll be attending any reunions ever)
Like I joked with my father... it's sad that we seem to be more interested in learning about dead people over getting to know our immediate family better..Smiley: dubious

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Always worth taking older relatives' accounts with a pinch of salt - memory lapses and family bullsh*t can cause problems, but use ancestry.com, census data & civil/parish records and you can quickly become engrossed.


Indeed. There are always the family "legends" that can't really be verified. In high school I would go around talking about how I was related to Pocahontas until I met like 10 other people who said their families claimed the same thing. I asked my dad about it and he said that she was just a ho. There of course there is the great+ grandfather that supposedly was "famous" for getting drunk and shooting up saloons in Baltimore.. but I imagine that's as much information I'm ever going to get out of that.. and I'm sure everyone has THAT relative.. especially in 'Murica.

Another claim was that we were directly related to the 'Unsinkable' Molly Brown. After doing some research my dad found that this claim must be entirely false.. of course the distance relative that gave us that claim wouldn't believe any of my dad's and continued to claim this and stopped responding to his emails.

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Like Nobby said; once you join a place like ancestry.com you can unlock census data, church records, and the like and you start getting specific dates for births, deaths, and marriages you can easily bounce off of there.
Once my dad had gotten that data it didn't take too long posting on message boards with the specific names and dates that he was contacted by some unknown distant relatives that helped put together entirely new branches of the tree. We even had one woman who had photographs and the soldier journal of my great grandfather. She had no idea who the guy was so she just mailed the stuff to us.. very cool seeing their handwriting and how much they payed for boots on their way to the Spanish-American war. Turns out my grandmother remembers sitting in the guys lap when she was a kid braiding bows in the poor guys hair.

There's a good chance that someone else has done their homework and has a lot of data compiled that can help anyone fill in some blanks. Just like with my 14th century ancestor... All I did was go to my dad's publishes info and sat there seeing which direct line went back the farthest.. (the Wilbur line). Once I hit a dead end in the 1580s I just googled that persons name and death date and lo and behold someone in England had the missing link to that same person.. from there I just copied their 'homework' to trace it back farther.

The same way with my 'Broyles/Breyhel' line.. I just found where our records dead-end and then Googled the last persons death date and name and it turns out there some other researcher had created a web page with more data than I could have imagined.. with PDFs of the church records in Germany (to 1590s).. immigration records with the name of the ship the guy came over on. There's even a medieval survey drawing of the guys farmhouse.
If you have a mind for it (or the caffeine) it can be fun to get lost in the stuff.

Incidentally I also found several wills listing addresses and assets.. One direct ancestor left his favorite cow (named Browning) to his neighbor and left his 4 slaves to his grand kids. I found out that one guy owned a farm right in the same spot where a popular mall(Golden Ring Mall) once stood (now it's a Walmart shopping center) used to be where I had shopped most of my life.

The only people of note besides Sitting Bull that I have is one Elhanan Winchester who was one of the founders of the Universalist Church and was friends with Benjamin Rush. Online I can find several copies of letters that he wrote to George Washington and other writings.

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There are also 2 pairs of knickers that go back as far, but can't say who they belong to. One has warranty, still sewn on the waist band, for any repairs only 10 cents. Nice thing about coming from family of pack rats, is that I inherited lots of collectables.


That's awesome! Actually.. if this is from your Baltimore line.. they could have been made by my great-grandfather who actually was a tailor of womans clothes there! hehe
It makes me cringe to think of all of the old stuff that was trashed when my grandfather died and the kids just sold his house in Dundalk AS-WAS with an entire basement and attic FULL of his pack-ratted stuff.. (he was born 1913 and was a total packrat).. all that I managed to salvage was a car load of his old musical instruments... but he had SO MUCH more stuff that I wish I could have somehow managed to get.. probably in a landfill now.

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My maternal grandfather was the second oldest of 21 kids, 17 of which survived.

Yikes! It's crazy to see how many kids people had back then.. they certainly screwed for redundancy in those days!

Genealogy is really just a hobby, obviously.. but if you get into it it can be really cool to have some work that some later generation down the line can use. As I sit and look at these names and dates and random notes and letters.. it's fascinating to imagine some descendent of mine in 300 years looking at my name.. will it just be another name and death date or will there be some notes with some passing hint of the person that I was? What will happen to my grandfathers old 1926 restored banjolin sitting next to my Xbox? Will my great-grandkid sell it in 100 years for cash (or carbon-credits!) or will my great great great grandkid restore it again and my descendants be jamming on it centuries from now?

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Just variations of French vanillas and some weird dark roasts from Comfort Zone Cafes... and some weird cookie flavored tea that smelled like a candy factory to me.. They were good enough to keep me drinking it until 6AM without realizing it.. but I can't tell you more than that.. no 'fruity bouquet' or anything.. sorry I can't be more descriptive than that.


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Like I joked with my father... it's sad that we seem to be more interested in learning about dead people over getting to know our immediate family better..Smiley: dubious
That's cause you don't have to listen to some boring story you don't give a rat's **** about with the dead people.
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Ah, so you're all German, then.
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Once I hit a dead end in the 1580s I just googled that persons name and death date and lo and behold someone in England had the missing link to that same person.. from there I just copied their 'homework' to trace it back farther.


See, I'm a bit more purist, as a large proportion of amateur genealogists like us aren't as meticulous/scrupulous about validating traces. My brother got an entirely different route to me working back from the 1760s to the early 1500s. Turned out he'd copied bits of a tree that were sloppily researched and had picked the wrong Daniel Brookes in the 18th century.

A tricksy bid'ness!
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Once I hit a dead end in the 1580s I just googled that persons name and death date and lo and behold someone in England had the missing link to that same person.. from there I just copied their 'homework' to trace it back farther.


See, I'm a bit more purist, as a large proportion of amateur genealogists like us aren't as meticulous/scrupulous about validating traces. My brother got an entirely different route to me working back from the 1760s to the early 1500s. Turned out he'd copied bits of a tree that were sloppily researched and had picked the wrong Daniel Brookes in the 18th century.

A tricksy bid'ness!


Not that it matters in my case, but that's why I personally can't trust results. People can just make stuff up or follow the wrong person. The best way to maintain a family tree is for the family to do it internally.
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#30 Mar 12 2014 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
My one set of grandparents had a history done as far back as 1700's Mostly a mashup of Irish/English Scottish lineage with some Native thrown in there. Nothing remarkable in the family, probably just a bunch of Potato Farmers and Sheepshaggers.

When they came to North America they settled in Upper Canada, (Ontario) and the families really didn't move around much, kind of established themselves around Southwestern Ontario. Had a couple Great Uncles who fought and died in 1812 war, one in York area (Toronto) the other in detroit. Had a great grandfather who burned down washington as a lieutenant in the British Service. (My Great Aunt has some paraphernalia from his service still sadly not the book of matches used in the burning of the US Capitol). A Great Grandmother married a native man and down the line my Gramps was popped out, and my Grand Mothers family mostly stuck to the farming business keeping it Irish/English.

So on that side I am mostly English/Irish/Native technically I could apply to have my Status Card and get all those sweet native deals But :effort:. "Earliest" Use of the name (and my surname) is around 1100 in Scotland/Maiden name is common as **** Scottish and has been around since before time I think. (Google says 925AD vOv)

No big historical tree has been done on my other side, English/Scotish mostly from what we have been able to tell. The surname on that side dates back to the Norman invasions of England, so around 1200AD and the Maiden name back to 1000 AD. Both names have been in North America since the earliest settlers. Family Rumor is one of our ancestors did some exploration of the West and named a couple mountains after his family at the time. Could be coincidence but who knows.

So basically I have Older names (all from around 900-1200AD) from the British Isles, with a little bit of Native added in. As far as I know my ancestors to this point have always been Canadian as well. If it counts I am related to Joe Thornton of the San Jose Sharks (2nd Cousins w/e that is). But I don't know anyone currently "famous" or of old time fame other than that and the gent who burned your capitol down.



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#31 Mar 12 2014 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
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The non-documented stuff is the most juicy: Supposedly my paternal grandma had a good chunk of Native American in her, but the issue was not discussed among the family, nor were any dalliances with the natives documented.
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#32 Mar 12 2014 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
Supposedly my paternal grandma had a good chunk of Native American in her,
That's what she said.
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#33 Mar 12 2014 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
Supposedly my paternal grandma had a good chunk of Native American in her,
That's what she said.

Smiley: lol Not what she said. She was a very quiet woman.
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#34 Mar 13 2014 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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The native stuff is especially untrustworthy since they usually changed their names and hid their origins... and the Irish stuff is difficult too since they were probably more worried about not starving than keeping records (at least on my side)..

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See, I'm a bit more purist, as a large proportion of amateur genealogists like us aren't as meticulous/scrupulous about validating traces. My brother got an entirely different route to me working back from the 1760s to the early 1500s. Turned out he'd copied bits of a tree that were sloppily researched and had picked the wrong Daniel Brookes in the 18th century.

A tricksy bid'ness!


but, It's true about going off of names alone.
You need to make sure you have those specific dates to pin-point it...
For example in my line that goes back to Sitting Bull.. it would appear that he also had a BROTHER that had the same exact name ( Tȟatȟaŋka Iyotȟaŋka).. so we can't be sure if our line is to him or his brother.. it also appear that his brother may have married the particular wife of his that we descend from.

RDM wrote:
No big historical tree has been done on my other side, English/Scotish mostly from what we have been able to tell. The surname on that side dates back to the Norman invasions of England, so around 1200AD and the Maiden name back to 1000 AD


I used to like to tell people that I was descended from the Quadi and the Marcomanni tribes that fought against Marcus Aurelius.. since the name of the village that my German line is from is in the same area as those tribes and the name of the village was of the same language (Allemannic).... in the same vein I could claim descendency from Teutonic Crusaders since they are the ones that settled that particular village..
but of course no one could ever proove any of that. but it used to make for fun party topic (to me!). At least now I have this Wild Boar guy I can talk about and be honest lol.



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#35 Mar 14 2014 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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ElneClare wrote:
I can trace Father's mothers side of the family to the Mayflower, were I'm descended from Miles Standish, John Alden and Priscilla Mullins. The other branches I can't go more then a few generations back, as they came over from Ireland 3 or 4 generations ago, or few records have been kept by the family.


Think this has come up before, but basically identical except it's my mothers mothers family line (I think) that goes back to that particular set of jokers. My maternal grandfathers line goes back to various Polish or Irish folks fleeing some famine or war or what have you. All prior to the turn of the century (Um... the one before the last one). We have lots on that side because that's the side of the family that lives in state and we keep in contact with (couple different sets of cousins live in or near here).

My dad's lineage is a lot more vague. I know there's a largish family somewhere out there, and mostly Germanic and other random stuff. His mother had a big giant book of names of everyone in that extended family, but I have no clue where that went off to. When my Dad passed away last year, we gathered a bunch of stuff he had, much of it things he got when she died, but the book isn't among them. I've literally got her old school year books from the 1920s in a box in my closet, and books of photos of people I mostly don't know, but not that one. Sigh...

Somewhere on my dad's side there's some native American in there (Sioux specifically). Can't remember if it was from his dad or mom though.
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