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#27 Mar 06 2014 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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I'm thinking that if they called the place up inside a skirt, or even down inside the pants, a private place, then a person could reasonably be expected not to be photographed there.

So, if you wear a bikini on the subway, it's fine to take a picture of that. If you wear a dress, now it's illegal. Sure, that sounds reasonable and easily enforceable. Already a crime to reach into someone's pants or skirt, and reasonable and easy to enforce. This wouldn't be. Is it a crime if a woman lifts her skirt up and laughs to her friends and a stranger takes a picture, or only if he has to expend thought or effort to take the picture. Shoecam illegal, but google glass record of what his eyes could see anyway legal?

It's a @#%^ing quagmire. "This makes me uncomfortable" shouldn't be the standard for criminalizing behaviour.
Add it to the current quagmire of pictures in private places.

If I walk by my picture window naked and my neighbor snaps a picture was s/he a peeping tom?

By defining underclothes as being in private places on a person it's simply a way that the legal system could disallow these types of photos - cuz I think the public will demand some sort of protection from upskirting (I love the word...Smiley: smile)




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#28 Mar 06 2014 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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If I walk by my picture window naked and my neighbor snaps a picture was s/he a peeping tom?

Depends on the state law, I imagine, but *importantly* the expectation of privacy in your home is dramatically higher than when you are on the subway.

By defining underclothes as being in private places on a person it's simply a way that the legal system could disallow these types of photos

How? Seriously. What are the criteria for 'underclothes' going to be? Do they require something covering them? Where do they end. Can someone take a picture of tights? It's idiotic. To accomplish, what, exactly? What's the damage that's been done to anyone? The "violation" of someone taking a picture of your magic underpants, because, presumably they're going to flog the dolphin to it at a later time? Again, thoughtcrime is stupid. What if Bob gets off ************ to pictures of dogs. Should we legislate against people taking dog photos?


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#29 Mar 06 2014 at 2:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, if you wear a bikini on the subway, it's fine to take a picture of that. If you wear a dress, now it's illegal.

I'm not sure that's so unreasonable since the primary purpose of the dress is to disallow seeing the "bikini" area. Foregoing that modesty and wearing your bikini in public would seem to be consent to be seen/photographed in that manner. I don't really equivocate wearing a bikini on the beach with someone going out of their way to defeat your blocking the view of your genitals by wearing a dress/skirt.

I get what you're saying, blah blah subjective standards; I'm not especially sure I'm convinced that disallowing sticking cameras up women's skirts is a bad thing.

Edited, Mar 6th 2014 2:21pm by Jophiel
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#30 Mar 06 2014 at 2:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well if nothing else chances are if you're making a habit of running around trying to take pictures up people's skirts you're probably not on the fast track to success in life. Only a matter of time before you do something you can get arrested for.

Getting into a fistfight with someone or their boyfriend in the back of a subway for example. Smiley: rolleyes

Edited, Mar 6th 2014 12:20pm by someproteinguy
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#31 Mar 06 2014 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:
If I walk by my picture window naked and my neighbor snaps a picture was s/he a peeping tom?

Depends on the state law, I imagine, but *importantly* the expectation of privacy in your home is dramatically higher than when you are on the subway.

The expectation of underpant privacy is pretty high in most any locale.




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someproteinguy wrote:
Well if nothing else chances are if you're making a habit of running around trying to take pictures up people's skirts you're probably not on the fast track to success in life.

My paycheck from GrainySubwayUpskirts.com says otherwise Smiley: twocents
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#33 Mar 06 2014 at 2:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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I consider it an invasion of privacy, and the argument against it being an invasion of privacy seems to boil down to, "If you wear a skirt you're asking for it...?"
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I consider it an invasion of privacy, and the argument against it being an invasion of privacy seems to boil down to, "If you wear a skirt you're asking for it...?"

Doesn't count unless the camera leaves marks.
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#35 Mar 06 2014 at 2:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe it can get tossed into non-protected behavior, akin to that whole yelling fire in a theater thingy?
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What if I shout "fire" up a woman's skirt?
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#37 Mar 06 2014 at 2:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Zam-Google filter holds the answer.

Someone post a picture of themselves in their undies and see if it gets censored.

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#38 Mar 06 2014 at 2:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
What if I shout "fire" up a woman's skirt?


Only illegal if she's in a theater it seems.

Edited, Mar 6th 2014 12:29pm by someproteinguy
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#39 Mar 06 2014 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
What if I shout "fire" up a woman's skirt?

If there is really a fire then it's ok.
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#40 Mar 06 2014 at 2:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
The Zam-Google filter holds the answer.

Someone post a picture of themselves in their undies and see if it gets censored.

Best idea yet. Smiley: nod
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Jophiel wrote:
What if I shout "fire" up a woman's skirt?

If there is really a fire then it's ok.

The candle was to provide romantic lighting for my upskirt photos.
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#42 Mar 06 2014 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira wrote:
I consider it an invasion of privacy, and the argument against it being an invasion of privacy seems to boil down to, "If you wear a skirt you're asking for it...?"


More like, if you're wearing a skirt you don't mind people looking at your legs, generally. If you're out in public you know someone might take your picture.

It kinda makes me want to design skirts with camera-foiling underskirts just to **** off a few pervs, but I doubt the market is there, really.

Holy ****, this thread is moving.



Edited, Mar 6th 2014 12:48pm by Samira
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Elinda wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
What if I shout "fire" up a woman's skirt?
If there is really a fire then it's ok.
what if she's a natural redhead?
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#44 Mar 06 2014 at 2:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
More like, if you're wearing a skirt you don't mind people looking at your legs, generally. If you're out in public you know someone might take your picture.

It kinda makes me want to design skirts with camera-foiling underskirts just to **** off a few pervs, but I doubt the market is there, really.


Looking at your legs, no. But your upper thighs and groin area?

I don't care for skirts much, but when I wear them, it is not so that perverts can play peek-a-boo with my panties and their iphone. I don't really understand why that should be ok. Does that mean it's ok for someone to start snapping pictures under bathroom stalls because you're technically in a public place and you've chosen to disrobe? Or in dressing rooms? Or at the urinal in a men's room?
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It kinda makes me want to design skirts with camera-foiling underskirts just to **** off a few pervs, but I doubt the market is there, really.

Flesh colored panties with a dong silkscreened on them.
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#46 Mar 06 2014 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Does that mean it's ok for someone to start snapping pictures under bathroom stalls because you're technically in a public place and you've chosen to disrobe? Or in dressing rooms? Or at the urinal in a men's room?
No because they're not technically public places?
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Does that mean it's ok for someone to start snapping pictures under bathroom stalls because you're technically in a public place and you've chosen to disrobe? Or in dressing rooms? Or at the urinal in a men's room?
No because they're not technically public places?


A public rest room isn't a public place?

#48 Mar 06 2014 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
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Samira wrote:
More like, if you're wearing a skirt you don't mind people looking at your legs, generally. If you're out in public you know someone might take your picture.

It kinda makes me want to design skirts with camera-foiling underskirts just to **** off a few pervs, but I doubt the market is there, really.


Looking at your legs, no. But your upper thighs and groin area?

I don't care for skirts much, but when I wear them, it is not so that perverts can play peek-a-boo with my panties and their iphone. I don't really understand why that should be ok. Does that mean it's ok for someone to start snapping pictures under bathroom stalls because you're technically in a public place and you've chosen to disrobe? Or in dressing rooms? Or at the urinal in a men's room?


Lets just make it so it is illegal to own and operate a camera without a licence. in order to qualify you must under go an intensive psyche exam to show that you aren't a creeper and won't take snap shots of anything that you might find sexually arousing, or other people could find as harassment. Furthermore carrying a concealed camera will result in much stiffer penalties including potential prison time, more over even licensed camera operators can not conceal a camera it must be on display to everyone at all times, so they know that you have a camera on your person and my take pictures near them.

Hyperbolic comparisons are also over rated.

Should have never let the flappers off so easy back in the 20's. Then this wouldn't be a problem.



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#49 Mar 06 2014 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
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Does that mean it's ok for someone to start snapping pictures under bathroom stalls because you're technically in a public place and you've chosen to disrobe? Or in dressing rooms? Or at the urinal in a men's room?
No because they're not technically public places?


A public rest room isn't a public place?




Not when someone is using it, no.
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I don't care for skirts much, but when I wear them, it is not so that perverts can play peek-a-boo with my panties and their iphone. I don't really understand why that should be ok.

It's not "ok". It's just not "illegal". You can hold both of those ideas in your head at the same time, can't you? I don't like people taking picutres of my bald spot, but that probably shouldn't be illegal. It probably shouldn't be illegal even if I normally wear a hat and take it off for the pledge of aligence or whatever. I don't think it's "ok" to burn an American Flag because you're sad that gays can get married. That doesn't mean it should be illegal.

Contrary to what you've been told, the purpose of legislation isn't to enforce and inflict your personal fears and hang ups on the rest of the world. THERE ARE NO DAMAGES WHEN SOMEONE TAKES A PHOTO OF A FULLY CLOTHED PERSON IN PUBLIC. That's the point. It's not "ok" for paparazzi to expose famous cheating spouses. There are millions of things that aren't "ok" that we allow to be legal to avoid harm. Once this is illegal, then obviously "attempting" it will be made illegal. So to protect your ******* precious magic underpants, some poor sod is going to end up in prison because someone thinks he tried to take a picture of something.

It's not worth it. Not remotely.
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#51 Mar 06 2014 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
A public rest room isn't a public place?
You have an expectation of privacy when in the restroom, whether it's the one in your house or a port-a-john in the middle of the desert.
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