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#52 Mar 03 2014 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I thought Texas was leaning Blue these days anyway. I remember hearing something about the Latin vote flipping it to a Blue state by 2020.
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#53 Mar 03 2014 at 6:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nah, it's still solid red. Every cycle gives Democratic daydreams about making it blue but it's sort of like Republicans and Pennsylvania that way. There is a growing Latino population that could swing it within a decade or so but a lot of that relies on greater voter registration of those groups and voter turnout.
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I have one question:

If God hates gays so much. Why does he keep making them? Can't he just like make it so there is no such thing as gay if he doesn't like it?


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I think the better question is if gay is unnatural then why do so many animals do it?


I cringe and grit my teeth every time I hear a Christian try to deride homosexuality by saying that it is "unnatural". The answer is YES it is totally natural. This falls in line with the question of what DOES separate us from animals and what SHOULD separate us from animals. Now before your bile-ducts start spazzing out: I am not saying that homosexuals are committing any bigger perversion than anybody else that rejects God's will by giving into their animal passions.. God knows I am certainly guilty of it. That is the point. Every human is a 'sinner' in God's eyes not because of what they do or what they have done but because of what we are. Yes, in that respect we are no different than animals.. however what does make us different than animals is that God has given us a way to be forgiven of these fleshly tendencies and to be liberated from wanting to commit them and instead to commit ourselves to spiritual tendencies. Animals will always be animals but human-beings have a God given potential to be liberated from the will of the flesh and to become spiritual beings. God doesn't make people sinners (e.g. homosexuals) but God created us with a free-will and that free-will has a natural tendency for fleshly desires.. and this isn't limited to mere sexual excess but applies to anything that we do that is an affront to our spiritual potential.. The works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, moral impurity, promiscuity, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambitions, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and anything similar. The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, gentleness, self-control.

Yes it is wrong for a Christian to single out homosexuality as sexual immorality above any other fleshly act that causes us to turn from our spiritual potential. God wants spiritual desires to take precedence over our fleshly desires. It's as simple as that.. and it's just not possible to make God the center of your life when your primary method of self-identification is what kind of person you like having sex with.

In regards to people (Christians included) that always point to the death sentencing in the Old Testament and ignore that to dishonor your parents or to work on the Sabbath is also a death sentence; it is nothing short of BAD biblical teaching and misses the entire point of why God wanted to single out a nation of people for himself.. Those laws were for the Nation of Israel in order to keep them preserved and singled out so that they would continue to exist throughout all of history, preserve scripture, and give birth to The Messiah..

...but I digress.
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#55 Mar 03 2014 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Nah, it's still solid red. Every cycle gives Democratic daydreams about making it blue but it's sort of like Republicans and Pennsylvania that way. There is a growing Latino population that could swing it within a decade or so but a lot of that relies on greater voter registration of those groups and voter turnout.


Ya i looked into it after I said that, seems like even by 2036 with maintained status quo voter turnout it would still go red. Barring some unforeseen run on the polls that is. Average estimate appears to be about 2028 for any real shot at it.
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#56 Mar 04 2014 at 12:00 AM Rating: Default
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I simultaneously support the illegality of child abuse *and* oppose giving every child in the country a free pet. Shocking, and similarly, this isn't contradictory at all.


...wut?

I seriously can't make any logical sense out of this analogy. Is it an analogy? sh*t...whatever. Anyway, the statement itself really doesn't work, You could maybe have said something more like...i dunno...um....hm....I actually don't know, but I'm sure you could have come up with something better for an analogy...

(5 minutes pass wherein I forgot to click "post")

Oh, I know, "I simultaneously support the illegality of child abuse *and* oppose the public flogging of those who commit the aforementioned crime". It's a bit silly, but at least it's closer in relation to supporting gay marriage but not supporting providing the same gov't benefits and straight marriage. I mean, really, yours is a bit of an exaggeration. So's mine, but at least mine makes sense.


Do you really not get the analogy, or you just pretend not to because it's easier to make a joke about it than to respond to what I said? I thought it was pretty straightforward. I even explained, quite clearly, that we shouldn't simplify things down to a "for/against <some group>" view. I also pointed out the difference between harming someone and giving them something.

Maybe an easier analogy would work? How about this one: It's not inconsistent at all for me to believe that we should not run around kicking and beating up panhandlers while simultaneously oppose giving them money. Does that make more sense? They are only inconsistent if one adopts a simplistic "I'm for panhandlers" position. Which is really silly.


The weird issue is that while most people instantly grasp this most of the time, as soon as it's presented in one of a smallish set of very specific political cases, suddenly it's like their brains melt and run out of their ears and they think it makes perfect sense to argue that being opposed to giving gay couples who marry government benefits is consistent with wanting to suppress the free speech of gay people (or that if one holds one position they must hold the other). It's absurd. It only makes sense if you adopt a complete "I support anything that benefits gay people" position. Which, just like adopting the "I'm for panhandlers" position, is silly.


Just because someone opposes gay marriage benefits does not mean that they hate gay people. In exactly the same reason that people who oppose handouts for panhandlers don't hate panhandlers, and people who oppose giving every child a free dog or pony don't hate children. Get it? Sheesh! Why do I have to spend so much time explaining stuff that should be easy to understand?

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Do you really not get the analogy, or you just pretend not to because it's easier to make a joke about it than to respond to what I said?
It was a badly written post.
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I thought it was pretty straightforward. I even explained, quite clearly,
And you wonder why people say you're delusional.
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I like how Gbaji always compares homosexuals to child rapists and dog @#%^ers and always compares SSM rights to giving a child a pet. The contempt just drips through with each post.

Even better when he's ironically insisting that he doesn't feel that way: "Just because I don't want homosexuals to have the right to legally marry the partner they love doesn't mean I hate them! I don't want to give every toddler a kitten either!"

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Even better when he's ironically insisting that he doesn't feel that way:
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#61 Mar 04 2014 at 9:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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God wants spiritual desires to take precedence over our fleshly desires.


Sounds like God's just bitter that no one has gone to town on his prostate, yet.

Then again, I bet Jesus was a total bottom.
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Jophiel wrote:
I like how Gbaji always compares homosexuals to child rapists and dog @#%^ers and always compares SSM rights to giving a child a pet. The contempt just drips through with each post.

Even better when he's ironically insisting that he doesn't feel that way: "Just because I don't want homosexuals to have the right to legally marry the partner they love doesn't mean I hate them! I don't want to give every toddler a kitten either!"

...and yet, he doesn't seem to be indulging in the hetero-life. Smiley: confused
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God wants spiritual desires to take precedence over our fleshly desires.


Sounds like God's just bitter that no one has gone to town on his prostate, yet.

Then again, I bet Jesus was a total bottom.


Nah I think God is straight, which is why Satan told him to @#%^ off and moved his *** out. God of course being the typical control freak he is, told all his friends he threw him out and if anyone said different they could just @#%^ off and move in with Satan. Gods more of the sneak into some virgins tent in the middle of the night, rape her and tell her if she said anything no one would believe her anyway, and that the ******* child would be raised as if it were her boyfriends.

South Park seems to confirm this in the sense Satan is a Giant flaming homosexual.




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I have difficulty thinking God doesn't want it from behind, considering he's the one who made it feel so good.
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#65 Mar 04 2014 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I have difficulty thinking God doesn't want it from behind, considering he's the one who made it feel so good.

All kinds of straight folk like it from behind. Women and Men alike say it enhances the climax. You don't need to be a ***** to take it in the rear.
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and yet, he doesn't seem to be indulging in the hetero-life

To be fair, he has related stories of his exploits having awkward sex with uncomfortable women and them saying things he finds interesting, but that everyone sees for the obvious calls for help that they are. Not often, fortunately. I don't want to have to pay the water bill for all the extra showers I'd need to take after reading each one.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I have difficulty thinking God doesn't want it from behind, considering he's the one who made it feel so good.

All kinds of straight folk like it from behind. Women and Men alike say it enhances the climax. You don't need to be a ***** to take it in the rear.

This just further convinces me that straight men are the gayest things alive.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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I have difficulty thinking God doesn't want it from behind, considering he's the one who made it feel so good.

All kinds of straight folk like it from behind. Women and Men alike say it enhances the climax. You don't need to be a ***** to take it in the rear.

This just further convinces me that straight men are the gayest things alive.

I got all my hair cut off last week - very short. My husband said it made me look like a young boy...then proceeded to get a big ol hard-on.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I have difficulty thinking God doesn't want it from behind, considering he's the one who made it feel so good.

All kinds of straight folk like it from behind. Women and Men alike say it enhances the climax. You don't need to be a ***** to take it in the rear.

This just further convinces me that straight men are the gayest things alive.

I got all my hair cut off last week - very short. My husband said it made me look like a young boy...then proceeded to get a big ol hard-on.
That's just disturbing.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I have difficulty thinking God doesn't want it from behind, considering he's the one who made it feel so good.

All kinds of straight folk like it from behind. Women and Men alike say it enhances the climax. You don't need to be a ***** to take it in the rear.

This just further convinces me that straight men are the gayest things alive.

I got all my hair cut off last week - very short. My husband said it made me look like a young boy...then proceeded to get a big ol hard-on.


He's got Bieber Fever.
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Now make him dress like a priest.
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As part of the whole, and specifically because it is in Texas. It ain't Mississippi but it's damn close.


Because Austin and Dallas don't have fairly large gay communities?
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Yes, urban areas often do. What is your point?
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Something about Austin having a bunch of hippies I bet.
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