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#202 Feb 12 2014 at 8:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess what I don't get is why google cares what content is on the site. It's about click through ads, right? That's what they are paying you guys for. If they were paying for people to go from somewhere else *to* Zam, I could see them worrying about what those people might find here. But this is the other way around, right? Maybe they're concerned that they might somehow be associated with or held responsible for the content on sites which carry their ads? I still don't really see it though. We could compare this to an ad company placing their clients ads on various TV slots, but I'm not aware that the clients particularly care which TV show their ads air during as long as they're getting a return on their dollars (ie: being placed in slots where likely consumers will see the ads).

Again though, it's more about wanting the folks using/viewing the content to see the ads and maybe be affected by them. Surely there must be some clients buying ad space from Google for whom "cursing game players" is a good demographic for their products? Maybe not...
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I guess what I don't get is why google cares what content is on the site. It's about click through ads, right? That's what they are paying you guys for. If they were paying for people to go from somewhere else *to* Zam, I could see them worrying about what those people might find here. But this is the other way around, right? Maybe they're concerned that they might somehow be associated with or held responsible for the content on sites which carry their ads? I still don't really see it though. We could compare this to an ad company placing their clients ads on various TV slots, but I'm not aware that the clients particularly care which TV show their ads air during as long as they're getting a return on their dollars (ie: being placed in slots where likely consumers will see the ads).

Again though, it's more about wanting the folks using/viewing the content to see the ads and maybe be affected by them. Surely there must be some clients buying ad space from Google for whom "cursing game players" is a good demographic for their products? Maybe not...


And it will only get worse. I just don't know for whom. People have already developed personal firewalls and basically ignore cable commercials ( unless it is superbowl ). The times they were not taught early on how to ignore ads, they have personal machines called the hopper, tivo or dvr that let them skip ads.

In the interwebz it is even easier.

Then again, the ads spread in spaces previously considered 'safe'. It is an arms race.

I am waiting for the enhanced reality **** when you make the world less shiny and scrap all the ads from your surroundings; one pixel at a time.
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#204 Feb 12 2014 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess what I don't get is why google cares what content is on the site.

They don't. Advertisers do, because being on the same page as content has the appearance of endorsing that content. I rarely see web adds, but if I did, I can imagine it would be a little jarring to see adds for Baby Einstein while watching **** or an add for Afro Sheen on The Blaze.
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And it will only get worse. I just don't know for whom. People have already developed personal firewalls and basically ignore cable commercials

No. No, they don't. Advertising is as effective as it was in 1950. Probably more so, given the advances in social research since then. Apple has been selling people overpriced hardware for the last 20 years because of it, millions of people bought tubes of **** wax to apply "directly to the forehead" because of it, **** beer and sugar water make people billionaires because of it.
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And it will only get worse. I just don't know for whom. People have already developed personal firewalls and basically ignore cable commercials

No. No, they don't. Advertising is as effective as it was in 1950. Probably more so, given the advances in social research since then. Apple has been selling people overpriced hardware for the last 20 years because of it, millions of people bought tubes of @#%^ing wax to apply "directly to the forehead" because of it, sh*tty beer and sugar water make people billionaires because of it.


I am not saying it is ineffective. It is. Just like you said, with the research tools doubly so. Even the pope knows this.

What I am saying that there is a market for people who are less than thrilled to be marketed to. Hence, the existence of the tools mentioned before. It is definitely not a strong force yet. But it is there.

Granted, it takes education. It takes some passive eugenics, but long term, people can be forced to think.

I am an optimist.
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#207 Feb 12 2014 at 11:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd get all worked up about this, but frankly my lack of participation around here over the last few years doesn't warrant it. That, and I can't bring myself to care too much. My warm fuzzies regarding this site dried up when it went corporate.

That said, it won't stop me from creatively using punctuation rather than foul language.
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#209 Feb 13 2014 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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As a regular Anonymous Guest, I get a great deal of enjoyment from reading through threads here while I am at work.

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Animal on sylph is my favorite kind of porn.

[Maybe NSW if your employer gets mad about semi-abstract nude figures. But maybe you should just be working anyway, you know? No one's paying you to click on links]

I know I could have gone full Bondage Fairies but Google already has a man perched on the roof across the street watching me
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#213 Feb 13 2014 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Animal on sylph is my favorite kind of porn.

[Maybe NSW if your employer gets mad about semi-abstract nude figures. But maybe you should just be working anyway, you know? No one's paying you to click on links]

I know I could have gone full Bondage Fairies but Google already has a man perched on the roof across the street watching me


Still better than posting fairy fighting.
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Jophiel wrote:
Animal on sylph is my favorite kind of porn.

[Maybe NSW if your employer gets mad about semi-abstract nude figures. But maybe you should just be working anyway, you know? No one's paying you to click on links]

I know I could have gone full Bondage Fairies but Google already has a man perched on the roof across the street watching me


Still better than posting fairy fighting.


I don't know, I could really go for some Erza/Mirajane/Evergreen/Juvia right about now.
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#216 Feb 13 2014 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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Animal on sylph is my favorite kind of porn.

[Maybe NSW if your employer gets mad about semi-abstract nude figures. But maybe you should just be working anyway, you know? No one's paying you to click on links]

I know I could have gone full Bondage Fairies but Google already has a man perched on the roof across the street watching me



Meh. I am getting paid to do something. Clicking links sounds like just as good a reason as any, and it sounds just as productive as the people around me.
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#218 Feb 14 2014 at 5:24 AM Rating: Good
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I can see when there are new replies in a reddit thread. I installed RES, pretty sure it was free. You don't need reddit gold for it.

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#219 Feb 14 2014 at 10:54 AM Rating: Excellent
But can you see which replies are new?
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#220 Feb 14 2014 at 11:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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But can you see which replies are new?
It's baked with cinnamon swirls that you can see.
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#221 Feb 14 2014 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess what I don't get is why google cares what content is on the site.

They don't. Advertisers do, because being on the same page as content has the appearance of endorsing that content. I rarely see web adds, but if I did, I can imagine it would be a little jarring to see adds for Baby Einstein while watching **** or an add for Afro Sheen on The Blaze.


Sure. But I'd still think the bigger issue would be the other way around. The only people seeing ads for Baby Einstein while watching porn, are... wait for it... watching porn. Are they going to complain to the company that their ad appeared in the midst of their porn?

The problem is offensive advertising appearing on "family content" sites/shows/whatever. Always has been. I'd assume the ad company's only reason for not wanting their Baby products to appear on a **** site isn't about the offensive nature of the site, but that it's likely a poor demographic for their product thus meaning their advertising dollars are being wasted.

Same deal here. The only people seeing those ads are people who are at the site already, presumably knowing the content/whatever that the site has. The only effect that googles rules can result in is a loss of overall revenue. Those who don't care about their more strict rules will continue as normal and nothing changes. But some small percentage of people might decide to stop frequenting sites that now no longer allow certain content, meaning that they are no longer going to be seeing the ads, thus losing money for google and their clients.

Hence why I don't think it makes any sense to do this.
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#222 Feb 14 2014 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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The problem is offensive advertising appearing on "family content" sites/shows/whatever. Always has been. I'd assume the ad company's only reason for not wanting their Baby products to appear on a **** site isn't about the offensive nature of the site, but that it's likely a poor demographic for their product thus meaning their advertising dollars are being wasted.
Really? You don't think advertisers are aware and careful about what things their products are associated with?
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The problem is offensive advertising appearing on "family content" sites/shows/whatever. Always has been. I'd assume the ad company's only reason for not wanting their Baby products to appear on a **** site isn't about the offensive nature of the site, but that it's likely a poor demographic for their product thus meaning their advertising dollars are being wasted.
Really? You don't think advertisers are aware and careful about what things their products are associated with?
After simply reading that post the degree to which Baby Einstein and **** are now associated in my head is disturbing enough. I'm never going to see Rocket the same way again. Smiley: glare

Now hold your hands as high as you can, and say blast off!

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#224 Feb 14 2014 at 6:36 PM Rating: Good
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You don't think advertisers are aware and careful about what things their products are associated with?
Just the filthy liberal ones.
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The problem is offensive advertising appearing on "family content" sites/shows/whatever. Always has been. I'd assume the ad company's only reason for not wanting their Baby products to appear on a **** site isn't about the offensive nature of the site, but that it's likely a poor demographic for their product thus meaning their advertising dollars are being wasted.
Really? You don't think advertisers are aware and careful about what things their products are associated with?


Sure. But that's primarily about demographics and sales. I'm probably not going to want my feminine care products commercial to air during the lumberjack competition. And I'm not going to want my baby product commercial to air during a **** show. But not so much because I care that the people watching the lumberjack competition or **** might make a strange association but because it would be a waste of my advertising dollars.

Where people get upset is when an offensive ad is shown in a family setting, not the other way around. No one sees a coke ad banner in Times Square 30 feet away from an ad for the latest **** Broadway play about erotic strangulation and thinks "OMG! Coke is advocating erotic strangulation! I'm never buying their products again!!!". And while I suppose there may be some incredibly small amount of pressure from some groups against certain companies advertising on various shows/sites/whatever, I can't imagine it's that significant at all. And on the internet? More or less non-existent. I mean, I could maybe see someone being upset that their favorite product is airing a commercial during a show they find offensive because they might think in terms of "they're funding that garbage", but it's rare, and I don't think I've ever heard of this sort of thing with regard to internet advertising.


Having said all of that, I really honestly don't care that much about this, and I don't think it really affects us that much. While the devs have traditionaly allowed folks in the asylum to do things like break the swear filters, those filters were still in place. And honestly, I've never cared about whether or not the filters were there, and only ever broke them because if you didn't, someone would inevitably make a point about how you don't know how to break them. It'll kinda be a relief not having to spend the effort anymore.

And these restrictions seem to be more about images and words, not attitude. And the "no holds barred" aspect of the asylum was always more about the nature of our debates and topics than what words we used when discussing them. The distinction between that and the OOC was that we were supposed to be nice to people in OOC, so as not to scare them away. And I don't really think much of that had to do with swearing.
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No one sees a coke ad banner in Times Square 30 feet away from an ad for the latest **** Broadway play about erotic strangulation and thinks "OMG! Coke is advocating erotic strangulation! I'm never buying their products again!!!".
Sure, as long as the banner is in English.
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#227 Feb 14 2014 at 7:12 PM Rating: Good
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the OOC was that we were supposed to be nice to people in OOC, so as not to scare them away. And I don't really think much of that had to do with swearing.

As a member of the OoT forum, I am outraged that you would use the disparaging slur "OOC". You'll be hearing from an Admin shortly.Smiley: mad
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the OOC was that we were supposed to be nice to people in OOC, so as not to scare them away. And I don't really think much of that had to do with swearing.

As a member of the OoT forum, I am outraged that you would use the disparaging slur "OOC". You'll be hearing from an Admin shortly.Smiley: mad


What are the odds that you, of all people, would be the one to spot that.

See what I did thar? Welcome to the Asylum. Where we don't need no stinking swear words to offend people.
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I'm probably not going to want my feminine care products commercial to air during the lumberjack competition.


Well where would you want them to air?

You know who watches lumberjack contests, right?

It's not lumberjacks.
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I'm probably not going to want my feminine care products commercial to air during the lumberjack competition.




But how else are they going to reach their target audience?
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I'm probably not going to want my feminine care products commercial to air during the lumberjack competition.


Well where would you want them to air?

You know who watches lumberjack contests, right?

It's not lumberjacks.
But **** men don't buy feminine care products either.


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I'm probably not going to want my feminine care products commercial to air during the lumberjack competition.


Well where would you want them to air?

You know who watches lumberjack contests, right?

It's not lumberjacks.
But **** men don't buy feminine care products either.


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Sure. But I'd still think the bigger issue would be the other way around.


You'd be wrong. Unsurprising. Your intuition is about as good as George Armstrong Custer's. "I'd think these people will meet us as friends"
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Having said all of that, I really honestly don't care that much about this, and I don't think it really affects us that much.


There's no "us". If Joph stops posting this forum disintegrates. What you or I do is meaningless.
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I'll send my list of demands shortly.

I don't want to give anything away but you might want to start shopping for jaguarundis.
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Having said all of that, I really honestly don't care that much about this, and I don't think it really affects us that much.


There's no "us". If Joph stops posting this forum disintegrates. What you or I do is meaningless.
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Don't let us down Joph.
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Gee-willikers!

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Well where would you want them to air?

You know who watches lumberjack contests, right?

It's not lumberjacks.

It's the trees.
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Especially mine, since I posted it already. Smiley: mad
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I don't want to give anything away but you might want to start shopping for jaguarundis.


I have 3 ready to ship, but one of them probably has rabies.
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Honestly should switch to another ad service. Bluegartr switched over iirc after google **** them over and withheld payment for some random retarded reason or another.

Requiring a forum to excessively restrict not only user's text/words, but even their topics of conversation... it's frankly just plain absurd. Might as well require us to remove unpersons from the history of the forums.
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I don't want to give anything away but you might want to start shopping for jaguarundis.


I had to google that. Holy **** those things are creepy.
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Cosmopolitan magazine had, for years, their Kama Sutra Guide to 99 **** Positions online and free for the viewing. When I went to peruse it this weekend, it was gone. You have to buy the book. More importantly though, it was pretty evident that Cosmo had cleaned up it's online content considerably.

I'm gonna go ahead and blame Google.
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#250 Feb 18 2014 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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What do you have against Kitchen Solutions, Joph?
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#251 Feb 18 2014 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Zam should ditch Google and just charge the "free streaming movie", "get legal ID from any country" and "SEO solutions" spammers to let their posts stay up.

Content isn't good enough to sell their own adds. Well, I mean, your posts are, but nothing else on the site.
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