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#77 Feb 09 2014 at 8:52 PM Rating: Good
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Mistress Darqflame wrote:
Shaowstrike FYI that avatar will have to go, for example...

I had to remove all of mine... ALL of them. Smiley: cry

Also, AFAIK, Google doesn't see things in journals Smiley: sly


Are their photo analytics that good? I was under the impression they were shitty.
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#78 Feb 09 2014 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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Mistress Darqflame wrote:
Shaowstrike FYI that avatar will have to go, for example...

I had to remove all of mine... ALL of them. Smiley: cry

Also, AFAIK, Google doesn't see things in journals Smiley: sly


Are their photo analytics that good? I was under the impression they were shitty.


They always seem to help me find that elusive **** source...
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#79 Feb 09 2014 at 9:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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One of my avatars got flagged and yeah...

Nothing perceived as sexual, no handcuffs in mouth, no ball gags, no overly abundant cleavage, no bare asses, shall I go on?
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#80 Feb 09 2014 at 9:40 PM Rating: Excellent
[censored] google?
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#81 Feb 09 2014 at 10:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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[censored] google?

Well, also **** Zam for using Adsense when their websites are hinged on an active community and user participation. Use a different ad service.

Seriously, some of these restrictions are ridiculous:
https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/1348688?hl=en
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Google ads may not be placed on content that provides tips regarding sexual performance or discusses some treatments of sexual health issues. Examples include, but are not limited to:

• advice about improving sexual performance
• discussions and/or images of sexually transmitted diseases
• sexual health advice related to pregnancy, childbirth, or family planning


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Sexually gratifying content

• images of men or women posing and/or undressing in a seductive manner


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Violent content

What's the policy?

Our program policies don't allow Google ads to be placed on content that contains graphic or gory images such as bloodshed, fight scenes, and gruesome or freak accidents. Publishers are responsible for every page on which their ad code appears and for screening any text, images, videos, or other media which will appear on a page with Google ads.

Examples Not acceptable
• Breaking bones
• Getting hit by trains/cars
• Receiving other serious injuries
• Sites with gory videos or images

Some of that is even more restrictive than G-rated. Even Disney movies have a "man or woman posing in a seductive manner."

And apparently discussing contraception or HIV is right-out! Wouldn't want kids to read something about HIV like how I learned about it in school at age eight, 23 years ago.
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#82 Feb 09 2014 at 11:02 PM Rating: Good
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Although apparently, their rules only apply to specific pages on which the ads appear. So just don't activate Adsense on forum pages. Simple! (I know it won't be that simple).
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#83 Feb 09 2014 at 11:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Our program policies don't allow Google ads to be placed on content that contains graphic or gory images such as bloodshed, fight scenes, and gruesome or freak accidents.

Well, screenshots of MMORPG combat are definitely out. Someone seeing my warrior about to clock a goblin with a broadsword could be traumatizing.
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#84 Feb 10 2014 at 12:18 AM Rating: Good
Not to mention the fact that "suggestive poses" and whatnot completely eliminates anything TERA.
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#85 Feb 10 2014 at 12:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
Not to mention the fact that "suggestive poses" and whatnot completely eliminates anything TERA.

Or screenshots of any armor set for female models in just about any MMO.
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#86 Feb 10 2014 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
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I don't see you nearly often enough, Ash! You have been one of my favorite posters for a very long time. I love your sense of humor.

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• advice about improving sexual performance
• discussions and/or images of sexually transmitted diseases
• sexual health advice related to pregnancy, childbirth, or family planning

!!!!

This is NOT ok. It's immoral. This is how unplanned pregnancies, STDs and cruel self-esteem issues spread.

Edited, Feb 10th 2014 2:08am by Aripyanfar
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#87 Feb 10 2014 at 1:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
Not to mention the fact that "suggestive poses" and whatnot completely eliminates anything TERA.

Or screenshots of any armor set for female models in just about any MMO.
Maybe we need to address this?

For example, just to probe that grey area that's bound to come up at some point. Uploading this kind of thing okay, or no, or do we just wait and see what gets flagged?

Linky

Edited, Feb 9th 2014 11:37pm by someproteinguy
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#88 Feb 10 2014 at 1:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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In that particular instance, Ok, unless for some reason they flag it.
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#89 Feb 10 2014 at 1:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Alrighty, thanks for the quick reply. Smiley: grin

I mean, I'm not looking to try and stretch the boundaries or cause problems or anything, but MMO armor being what it is, I'd imagine someone would upload many an image like that at some point.

Which reminds me I really should re-upgrade to premium. Maybe when that tax return comes in... Smiley: lol
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#90 Feb 10 2014 at 1:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
Not to mention the fact that "suggestive poses" and whatnot completely eliminates anything TERA.

Or screenshots of any armor set for female models in just about any MMO.
Maybe we need to address this?

For example, just to probe that grey area that's bound to come up at some point. Uploading this kind of thing okay, or no, or do we just wait and see what gets flagged?

Linky

Edited, Feb 9th 2014 11:37pm by someproteinguy


That one I'd approve. It's game-related and there's nothing naughty about it. I would hope Google's anylizer thingies would agree with me.
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#91 Feb 10 2014 at 3:10 AM Rating: Good
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The metal thongs and bikini tops MMO's have do break google's rules though so you're at their mercy, not to mention that Torchlight has a few gimp mask helmets and you've got a site for that as well in the zam package.
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#92 Feb 10 2014 at 5:18 AM Rating: Good
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I wonder if Google has Seen Kyle.
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#93 Feb 10 2014 at 6:58 AM Rating: Good
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I care little about the profanity filter - attempting to break it usually causes me to cuss.

But are they censoring the games and gaming content of Zam?
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#94 Feb 10 2014 at 6:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
Not to mention the fact that "suggestive poses" and whatnot completely eliminates anything TERA.

Or screenshots of any armor set for female models in just about any MMO.


Not going to be the winning argument, I think.
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someproteinguy wrote:
Which reminds me I really should re-upgrade to premium. Maybe when that tax return comes in... Smiley: lol

Having my posting curtailed for the benefit of Zam's advertising is a great reason not to purchase premium. Pay money to (sort of) block ads while having your posting dictated by Google's advertising wing.
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#96 Feb 10 2014 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
Which reminds me I really should re-upgrade to premium. Maybe when that tax return comes in... Smiley: lol

Having my posting curtailed for the benefit of Zam's advertising is a great reason not to purchase premium. Pay money to (sort of) block ads while having your posting dictated by Google's advertising wing.


Though, on the flip side, you give Google less profit and still support the site. Pretty much the only reason I have premium is so that I don't have to run adblock on Zam.
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#97 Feb 10 2014 at 8:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Though, on the flip side, you give Google less profit and still support the site.

That would be a more compelling reason if I wasn't being censored for Google regardless. The primary reason I don't have premium any longer is because they keep changing the site for the sake of advertising regardless of whether you have premium or not. When they reformatted the style sheets to accommodate additional advertising I knew the days of "Get premium to be unaffected by ads" were over. This just reinforces it.

AdBlock works fine for me. My warm fuzzies for "supporting the site" alone dried up when the site went increasingly corporate. I don't even know who owns the site these days but I'm pretty sure it's no one I have any attachment with.
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#98 Feb 10 2014 at 9:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
Which reminds me I really should re-upgrade to premium. Maybe when that tax return comes in... Smiley: lol

Having my posting curtailed for the benefit of Zam's advertising is a great reason not to purchase premium. Pay money to (sort of) block ads while having your posting dictated by Google's advertising wing.


Though, on the flip side, you give Google less profit and still support the site. Pretty much the only reason I have premium is so that I don't have to run adblock on Zam.
Digglet read my mind.

While I have no particular attachment to the Chinese gold sellers, or whoever it is that owns ZAM these days, I like them more than Google at the moment. At least enough so that $3 a month to give the finger to Google seems reasonably worthwhile.

I'm not really into breaking filters, and really don't swear that much anyway. It sounds like it'll put a bit of a damper in some of the sexual commentary and innuendo, but the number of dual purpose words and uncensored content is certainly too high to make that absolute. Besides if I type ******* and it gets filtered, I'm guessing people will still be able to know what saying, despite the ****** filters (for example, you got that one right? Smiley: wink).
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#100 Feb 10 2014 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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The filter itself isn't really what bugs me, it's more the fact that the topics being censored.

What's the point of being *** if I don't get to make *** jokes about Alma?
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#101 Feb 10 2014 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
The filter itself isn't really what bugs me, it's more the fact that the topics being censored.

What's the point of being *** if I don't get to make *** jokes about Alma?
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but I was under the impression *** becomes g@y, but you could still have the discussion (calling it "discussion" only in the loosest sense of the word of course).

I'm pretty sure Alma would be able to tell you're calling him *** either way. He's sharp like that.
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