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#27 Feb 07 2014 at 2:07 PM Rating: Default
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Doesn't even make sense to me. Nothing in Russias law violates the Olympic Charter.
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#28 Feb 07 2014 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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There is a difference between literal legislation, and how the law is used by police to arrest, or not arrest people, and how the law is used to sentence people. Given the rampant, state-sanctioned homophobia in Russia, progressive western nations are concerned about nasty human rights abuses there. Russia has made homophobia more explicitly an official government position, more state sanctioned, put police and courts more on the sides of homophobes than homosexuals in the past year. When this started happening, it was almost a boycott-level problem for other nations, similar to the old apartheid problem in South Africa.
#29 Feb 07 2014 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
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Given the rampant, state-sanctioned homophobia in Russia, progressive western nations are concerned about nasty human rights abuses there.


That post reads like a fairytale for kids.
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Doesn't even make sense to me. Nothing in Russias law violates the Olympic Charter.

Not even the cross-country part where you stop and shoot three Chechen rebels?
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#31 Feb 07 2014 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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There is a difference between literal legislation, and how the law is used by police to arrest, or not arrest people, and how the law is used to sentence people. Given the rampant, state-sanctioned homophobia in Russia, progressive western nations are concerned about nasty human rights abuses there.
...and how about those dogs?!

Sarah M should be singing in a coke commercial in dog language about dog angels.
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#32 Feb 07 2014 at 2:35 PM Rating: Good
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Poor dogs T.T


In fairness to Russia, most nations, even western nations, do a lot of really extreme, morally dubious, clean-up just prior to holding the Olympics. They usually target the Homeless, including street kids, and temporarily board-off dilapidated parts of town.
#33 Feb 07 2014 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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And it's not like the opposition to Russian hosting is limited to their human rights violations with homophobia. It's also heavily connected to the behavior of the government in general, particularly with control of information, suppression of opposition, and obviously-corrupt voting systems.

The homophobia just became a really easy, really apparent problem that was particularly easy to latch onto and speak out against Russia using. It's a lot harder to do that when you're complaints are about systems that are much more abstract and complicated.

It's also much easier to talk about human rights in specific reference to how you are hurting a group of people, when it lets you sidestep the more direct, politically-problematic language of, you know, accusing Putin of fraudulent voting practices that are allowing him to feign democracy while ensuring his own stay in power.
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#34 Feb 07 2014 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Aripyanfar wrote:
There is a difference between literal legislation, and how the law is used by police to arrest, or not arrest people, and how the law is used to sentence people. Given the rampant, state-sanctioned homophobia in Russia, progressive western nations are concerned about nasty human rights abuses there. Russia has made homophobia more explicitly an official government position, more state sanctioned, put police and courts more on the sides of homophobes than homosexuals in the past year. When this started happening, it was almost a boycott-level problem for other nations, similar to the old apartheid problem in South Africa.



Well color me shocked. Western sensationalism is against democracy now? Last I checked over 80% of Russians support the law. **** Democracy right.

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#35 Feb 07 2014 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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Well color me shocked. Western sensationalism is against democracy now? Last I checked over 80% of Russians support the law. @#%^ Democracy right.
Yes, **** democracy. Human rights should not be determined democratically.
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Aripyanfar wrote:
There is a difference between literal legislation, and how the law is used by police to arrest, or not arrest people, and how the law is used to sentence people. Given the rampant, state-sanctioned homophobia in Russia, progressive western nations are concerned about nasty human rights abuses there. Russia has made homophobia more explicitly an official government position, more state sanctioned, put police and courts more on the sides of homophobes than homosexuals in the past year. When this started happening, it was almost a boycott-level problem for other nations, similar to the old apartheid problem in South Africa.



Well color me shocked. Western sensationalism is against democracy now? Last I checked over 80% of Russians support the law. @#%^ Democracy right.



Not to mention, just 20 years ago, them gays were considered crazy in the US. How fast things change? Who knows what will be normal tomorrow?
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#38 Feb 10 2014 at 11:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Now was that really necessary?
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#39 Feb 10 2014 at 11:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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[quote=Aripyanfar]There is a difference between literal legislation, and how the law is used by police to arrest, or not arrest people, and how the law is used to sentence people. Given the rampant, state-sanctioned homophobia in Russia, progressive western nations are concerned about nasty human rights abuses there. Russia has made homophobia more explicitly an official government position, more state sanctioned, put police and courts more on the sides of homophobes than homosexuals in the past year. When this started happening, it was almost a boycott-level problem for other nations, similar to the old apartheid problem in South Africa.



Well color me shocked. Western sensationalism is against democracy now? Last I checked over 80% of Russians support the law. @#%^ Democracy right.



I understand that this might offend some people. But so what. If you aren't into sticking your dink in pink you are not a Human protected under conventions of Geneva. Start your own civilization half breeds.

I'm not sure what sticking a dink into pink means, but Women don't it so. So, they're also not human according to your definition.

You're technically and morally wrong. I suspect psychologically you're wrong too.
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#40 Feb 10 2014 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
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Don't take him seriously, he's doing this whole "be as offensive as possible" thing in some kind of protest to the forum rules change.
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#41 Feb 10 2014 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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Don't take him seriously, he's doing this whole "be as offensive as possible" thing in some kind of protest to the forum rules change.


Change is hard. Smiley: clown

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I'm not sure what sticking a dink into pink means, but Women don't it so. So, they're also not human according to your definition.
It's assumed everyone already knew that to begin with. Not like you all really wanted to be associated with the rest of the "rabble" anyway. Smiley: rolleyes
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#43 Feb 10 2014 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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NFL players - human or not?

This question will need deciding this draft season.


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NFL players - human or not?

This question will need deciding this draft season.
Sure they are, they may be grotesque engineered monstrosities, but they're still one of us.

Except that Mr. Sam of course; the heathen.
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#45 Feb 10 2014 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
NFL players - human or not?

This question will need deciding this draft season.
Sure they are, they may be grotesque engineered monstrosities, but they're still one of us.

Except that Mr. Sam of course; the heathen.

He's very black.
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