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#1 Feb 02 2014 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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Philip Seymour Hoffman has been found dead, it has been reported.

A personal assistant to the 46-year-old actor is said to have found him dead at 11.30am this morning, a source told the New York Post, who are also reporting that Hoffman was found in the bathroom with a hypodermic needle still in his arm.


What the ****, Philip?? I thought he was smarter than that. Smiley: frown
#2 Feb 02 2014 at 1:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's too bad. He was a fine actor.

But as you know, lots of intelligent people use recreational drugs.
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#3 Feb 02 2014 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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Doesn't drug use correlate positively with intelligence?

If anything, this should only make us respect him more.
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But he should've been smart enough not to overdose. Smiley: frown
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Doesn't drug use correlate positively with intelligence?

If anything, this should only make us respect him more.

The trick is to do it without ODing, Kav.
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Depends on your frame of mind, really.
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But he should've been smart enough not to overdose. Smiley: frown



I bet he had been through rehab and either didn't realize how hard the same dose would hit him, or bought from a new source with a stronger product. Being illegal and all, there's no product standardization.

Not that people don't OD on prescription drugs, too, of course.

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What the @#%^, Philip?? I thought he was smarter than that. Smiley: frown
Apparently he had a history of heroin use and rehab stints.
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#9 Feb 02 2014 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why can't people just stick with pot?
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#10 Feb 02 2014 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default
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Why can't people just stick with pot?


Implying pot is a gateway drug? You do know that pot and heroin are completely different highs...well maybe you don't.

Pot > Heroin isn't like Casual Drinks > Raging alcoholic.
Its like Beer Drunk > Wine Drunk. Different buzzes, different sh*t.

For example I hate Wine, but love beer.
I am a huge fan of Pot, and in 15 years of smoking it...I have never once imagined using Heroin to get a "better" buzz.



Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 4:57pm by rdmcandie
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Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Why can't people just stick with pot?


Implying pot is a gateway drug? You do know that pot and heroin are completely different highs...well maybe you don't.

Pot > Heroin isn't like Casual Drinks > Raging alcoholic.
Its like Beer Drunk > Wine Drunk. Different buzzes, different sh*t.

For example I hate Wine, but love beer.
I am a huge fan of Pot, and in 15 years of smoking it...I have never once imagined using Heroin to get a "better" buzz.



Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 4:57pm by rdmcandie
...the fuck you going on about? How was he implying that pot is a gateway drug? Maybe you should put down the joint; the paranoia is getting to you.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 5:10pm by Spoonless
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That's too bad. He was a fine actor.

Maybe he's just playing dead. Too soon?

Always found him a little overrated, to be honest. Good in some things, Boogie Nights, some other ensemble pieces with strong directors, but man, if you let him, he would overreact his way out of anything. Capote was a fucking mess, and almost certainly the second best movie ABOUT TRUMAN CAPOTE released that year. Heath Ledger probably killed himself over being robbed of the Oscar for that marketing package *********
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#13 Feb 02 2014 at 8:13 PM Rating: Default
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Debalic wrote:
Why can't people just stick with pot?


Implying pot is a gateway drug? You do know that pot and heroin are completely different highs...well maybe you don't.

Pot > Heroin isn't like Casual Drinks > Raging alcoholic.
Its like Beer Drunk > Wine Drunk. Different buzzes, different sh*t.

For example I hate Wine, but love beer.
I am a huge fan of Pot, and in 15 years of smoking it...I have never once imagined using Heroin to get a "better" buzz.



Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 4:57pm by rdmcandie
...the fuck you going on about? How was he implying that pot is a gateway drug? Maybe you should put down the joint; the paranoia is getting to you.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 5:10pm by Spoonless

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Why can't people just stick with pot?


Implying he used pot...and went on to something else. If not why even bring pot up in a heroin overdose story? Let alone make a plea just for people to stick to using that instead of other drugs.

So kindly shut the @#%^ up and learn to read.



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Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 9:17pm by rdmcandie
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#14 Feb 02 2014 at 8:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Someone is a little defensive about his pot smoking. Smiley: laugh
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#15 Feb 02 2014 at 8:35 PM Rating: Default
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Someone is a little defensive about his pot smoking. Smiley: laugh


Nope just him questioning my interpretation of "stick with". My mistake for assuming "stick with marijuana" means continue to use weed, and then using my life experience as support in my disagreement with that statement. (seeing as I have no desire to use cocaine, or heroin despite using pot for 15 years.)

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...the @#%^ you going on about? How was he implying that pot is a gateway drug?


You can say whatever you want about my smoking of marijuana its not going to stop me, just like it being illegal means @#%^ all to me. I use it because it is medically superior to any pills you can buy in a store. If paranoia is a side effect of having better overall health than the average North American that is a price I will happily pay.

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Oh, sorry, might have been a poor choice of words on my part. I wasn't implying that pot was a gateway, only that as a "soft" drug it's not nearly as dangerous.

As for the man and his career, I myself didn't care much for him. Sure, I'll acknowledge that he's generally well-regarded as an excellent actor, as Smash pointed out he tends to overdo it. But then the only roles I seem to remember are the smarmy asshole types, like in Nobody's Fool, Scent of a Woman and The Talented Mr. Ripley.
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Nope just him questioning my interpretation of "stick with". My mistake for assuming "stick with marijuana" weed means continue to use weed, and then using my life experience as support in my disagreement with that statement. (seeing as I have no desire to use cocaine, or heroin despite using pot for 15 years.)

Settle down and smoke some weed there, rage-man Smiley: laugh
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#18 Feb 02 2014 at 8:40 PM Rating: Default
Ill have you know its not weed im raging about. Its the 250 bucks I am losing because Peyton ******* Manning is a god **** choke artist.
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#19 Feb 02 2014 at 8:42 PM Rating: Default
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Oh, sorry, might have been a poor choice of words on my part. I wasn't implying that pot was a gateway, only that as a "soft" drug it's not nearly as dangerous.


So an irrelevant side comment that has nothing to do with someone dying from Heroin? Got ya.

Also completely related.

Who is this guy anyway?
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Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Oh, sorry, might have been a poor choice of words on my part. I wasn't implying that pot was a gateway, only that as a "soft" drug it's not nearly as dangerous.


So an irrelevant side comment that has nothing to do with someone dying from Heroin? Got ya.

Also completely related.

Who is this guy anyway?

Criticizing the guy's choice of recreational drug is irrelevant? Okay...

He's an actor, if you haven't figured it out. He was in Almost Famous, Boogie Nights...that movie about a floating pirate radio station...one of the Mission: Impossible movies...
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Random note, just about the ODing part. I work for an addictions education center, and a lot of our trainings are on heroin right now (since it's the biggest issue in NJ atm).

Most heroin addicts start with prescription pills. But pills are so expensive, that their habits quickly end up costing $1-5k a month. Once all their lines of funding dry up for pills, they move to heroin (which is one of the cheapest drugs you can buy).

And at that point, it's not really a choice. Addiction, particularly when you're in a state of withdrawal, essentially turns off other high-order desires in your brain. Sometime starting to go through withdrawals (or already in them) because they can't get pills IS going to take heroin if they have access to it. It's essentially a survival behavior at that point - their brain is screaming at them that they need it to survive, and nothing else matters next to that.

And because of that particular issue, even knowing rationally that a dosage could kill you ceases to matter, because depending on how dependent you are, and how deep into the withdrawal you've gotten, your brain just isn't capable of rationally processing that information. The only thing that matters is that your instinct is that you need the drug to survive (even if you know it'll kill you).

Also worth noting that, being so dirt cheap, heroin is usually one of the (for lack of a better word) filthiest drugs out there. It's cut with all kinds of crap. We had a ton of deaths in NJ this year from tainted heroin coming out of Atlantic City.

Really quite sad. One of the worst parts of heroin abuse is actually the sheer number who get started on this path of addiction literally. Addictions to prescription drugs, legitimately prescribed for pain, is extremely common. Most people manage to keep their addiction reasonable. Some of them don't.

Obviously, the less wealthy you are, the more likely you'll end up on heroin. A lot depends on your ability to pay for the pills.
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One of the national news stations in the past week mentioned heroin cut with some obscure prescription opiate was killin' folk in the NYC/Tri-State area. Maybe Mr. Phil got some of that crap?





ALSO: @RDM~~Given these two teams history did you really think Seattle would lose? Nothing short of mass murder was going to keep the Seahawks from kicking Denver's ***.

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Spoonless wrote:
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Debalic wrote:
Why can't people just stick with pot?


Implying pot is a gateway drug? You do know that pot and heroin are completely different highs...well maybe you don't.

Pot > Heroin isn't like Casual Drinks > Raging alcoholic.
Its like Beer Drunk > Wine Drunk. Different buzzes, different sh*t.

For example I hate Wine, but love beer.
I am a huge fan of Pot, and in 15 years of smoking it...I have never once imagined using Heroin to get a "better" buzz.



Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 4:57pm by rdmcandie
...the fuck you going on about? How was he implying that pot is a gateway drug? Maybe you should put down the joint; the paranoia is getting to you.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 5:10pm by Spoonless

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Why can't people just stick with pot?


Implying he used pot...and went on to something else. If not why even bring pot up in a heroin overdose story? Let alone make a plea just for people to stick to using that instead of other drugs.

So kindly shut the @#%^ up and learn to read.



Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 9:13pm by rdmcandie

Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 9:17pm by rdmcandie

I think that initial point was that pot can get you a great high, without endangering your life.
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Bingo. I mean there are different strains of pot that give you different effects, and I'm sure someone of Mr. Hoffman's stature could get whatever he wanted. I guess he started on the smack when he was a young, struggling actor.
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Doesn't drug use correlate positively with intelligence?

If anything, this should only make us respect him more.
The trick is to do it without ODing, Kav.
Or at least tossing the needle out the window.
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Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
Ill have you know its not weed im raging about. Its the 250 bucks I am losing because Peyton @#%^ing Manning is a god **** choke artist.

Yeah, because Peyton totally snapped that ball over his own head and tipped his own pass... STFU.
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