False. You must remember, even though she lost, she had the popular vote (If you count all of the states). Even without them, she was in mere numbers of President Obama. If Bill is "too much baggage", she wouldn't have been nearly as close.
He's too much baggage THIS time, you fucking slack jawed buffoon. Hence the part where I posted "her chance was last time." Context matters. I understand that you aren't bright enough to grasp that, though, PLEASE, I beg of you don't feel compelled to "explain" to me how it would have mattered just as much in 2008.
I suspect she'll run and be fairly unopposed on the Democratic ticket if she does. I may be wrong on this but, two years out, I can't really pretend to care.
Yeah, why would anyone else want to be President, after all. History has shown us nothing if not that party unity is paramount to Democrats. That said, prediction is hard. We should wager some trivial sum against it, unlike the GOP posters here, I'm good for it. Say, $10 that she doesn't run with an automatic double or nothing that if she does run she isn't nominated?
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Smasharoo wrote:
Say, $10 that she doesn't run with an automatic double or nothing that if she does run she isn't nominated?
Obama's economy has been good to me so you're on. I just haven't heard any signs of anyone putting together a machine to take on the Clinton apparatus and PACs and I think Clinton's dominating poll numbers will keep some of the potential first tier candidates out of the race. But, hey, it's 2014 so I'm not going to have my feelings hurt if I'm wrong. I'll leave out the "absolutely" and "everyone knows" modifiers. Ten bucks works for funsies.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I don't foresee 2016 as the year of the woman president.
I think that if Hillary were to run in the general election she'd lose to a white or almost while man. I assume others think like me and hence, won't vote for her in the primaries.
But who will the our bleeding heart hero in 2015?
I think that if Hillary were to run in the general election she'd lose to a white or almost while man. I assume others think like me and hence, won't vote for her in the primaries.
But who will the our bleeding heart hero in 2015?
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
But who will the our bleeding heart hero in 2015?
I'd say Elizabeth Warren, but she's my Senator and I don't really have a good sense of how she plays elsewhere. Other than that, who knows. One of the fun things about Democratic politics is that timing can make your career in a surprising way, much moreso than in the GOP.
I'd say Elizabeth Warren, but she's my Senator and I don't really have a good sense of how she plays elsewhere. Other than that, who knows. One of the fun things about Democratic politics is that timing can make your career in a surprising way, much moreso than in the GOP.
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Smasharoo wrote:
But who will the our bleeding heart hero in 2015?
I'd say Elizabeth Warren, but she's my Senator and I don't really have a good sense of how she plays elsewhere. Other than that, who knows. One of the fun things about Democratic politics is that timing can make your career in a surprising way, much moreso than in the GOP.
I'd say Elizabeth Warren, but she's my Senator and I don't really have a good sense of how she plays elsewhere. Other than that, who knows. One of the fun things about Democratic politics is that timing can make your career in a surprising way, much moreso than in the GOP.
I thought she made a public statement that she'd not be running.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I thought she made a public statement that she'd not be running.
Oh, well that's that then. I actually meant who would be the Paul Wellstone type "if only" character. I don't think she is or should run for President.
Oh, well that's that then. I actually meant who would be the Paul Wellstone type "if only" character. I don't think she is or should run for President.
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Jophiel wrote:
I suspect she'll run and be fairly unopposed on the Democratic ticket if she does. I may be wrong on this but, two years out, I can't really pretend to care.
Patty Murray?
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
The most recent Quinnipiac poll for Democratic primary was:
Hillary Clinton 65%
Joe Biden 8%
Elizabeth Warren 7%
Andrew Cuomo 3%
Howard Dean 2%
Martin O'Malley 1% (Who?)
Brian Schweitzer 1%
Mark Warner <1%
Deval Patrick <1%
Percentages aside, that's mainly just to say who the polling peeps feel is worth asking about as a semi-legitimate runner.
Hillary Clinton 65%
Joe Biden 8%
Elizabeth Warren 7%
Andrew Cuomo 3%
Howard Dean 2%
Martin O'Malley 1% (Who?)
Brian Schweitzer 1%
Mark Warner <1%
Deval Patrick <1%
Percentages aside, that's mainly just to say who the polling peeps feel is worth asking about as a semi-legitimate runner.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well I'm sure once we get past these annoying midterms, which just get in the way of the real news stories 
, we'll have a lot of people talking and speculating and we'll see who can run the two-year media gauntlet. If anything it's fun watching Clinton get the GOP all riled up. No one else really does that quite so well. So here's to hoping she runs, just for the entertainment factor if nothing else. 
, we'll have a lot of people talking and speculating and we'll see who can run the two-year media gauntlet. If anything it's fun watching Clinton get the GOP all riled up. No one else really does that quite so well. So here's to hoping she runs, just for the entertainment factor if nothing else. 
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
At this point I'm kind of worried we'll get stuck with another John Kerry type character who'll end up losing by means of third-party sabotage. We'll end up with some Republican man-child who's first order of business will be to make sure Communist teenagers aren't getting gay married abortions while ensuring the Koch brothers aren't put in the poor house from having to pay taxes.
Edited, Jan 27th 2014 9:04pm by Kuwoobie
Edited, Jan 27th 2014 9:04pm by Kuwoobie
Galkaman wrote:
Kuwoobie will die crushed under the burden of his mediocrity.
Most of us learned our "don't vote for the spoiler" lesson in 2000.
At this point I'm kind of worried we'll get stuck with another John Kerry type character
Legitimate concern, but really, who the fuck qualifies as a "John Kerry type?" I'm pretty sure the 2016 field is clear of partirican Vietnam vet yale grads who windsurf. Hopefully, all Yale grads, come to that.
Legitimate concern, but really, who the fuck qualifies as a "John Kerry type?" I'm pretty sure the 2016 field is clear of partirican Vietnam vet yale grads who windsurf. Hopefully, all Yale grads, come to that.
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How about the Colorado governor for pres? He's got a great name ...and the whole 'reefer madness' thing going for him.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Smasharoo wrote:
At this point I'm kind of worried we'll get stuck with another John Kerry type character
Legitimate concern, but really, who the fuck qualifies as a "John Kerry type?"
Legitimate concern, but really, who the fuck qualifies as a "John Kerry type?"
I voted for Kerry, but I remember being incredibly disinterested in him as a person. More accurately, I was voting against Bush. I just can't help but feel that if he (Kerry) had some semblance of a personality he may have gotten enough voter momentum to beat George W.
Galkaman wrote:
Kuwoobie will die crushed under the burden of his mediocrity.
How about the freshman senator from Illinois?
Oh, wait.
Oh, wait.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Biden as president...? That's kind of scary.
Can mummies run for president?
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Biden as president...? That's kind of scary.
Never happen.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Biden as president...? That's kind of scary.
Never happen.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
smash wrote:
He's too much baggage THIS time, you ******* slack jawed buffoon. Hence the part where I posted "her chance was last time." Context matters. I understand that you aren't bright enough to grasp that, though, PLEASE, I beg of you don't feel compelled to "explain" to me how it would have mattered just as much in 2008.
My argument was that he was more baggage then than he is now and she still almost won. So if she almost won then, then he wouldn't be any noteworthy baggage now. Do you not remember his "fairy tale" remark about then senator Obama that caused a lot of controversy?
And you call me the buffoon....
Don't get upset because you fail to connect the dots together without assistance. smash wrote:
I'd say Elizabeth Warren,
So, let me get this straight... you say all of this about how HRC will not be the nominee (based on baggage), but Warren will be, even though she said that she wouldn't be running? Forgive me for not taking your analysis seriously.
Put down that ******* pole, Smash - you just got comprehensively schooled!
Nice one, Alma.
Nice one, Alma.
Smasharoo wrote:
Just imagine when HRC announces her bid and the attack ads start coming out
Won't matter, because she won't be the nominee.
Won't matter, because she won't be the nominee.
I am assuming you are trolling now, because it is not impossible. Hell, much as I would like to believe it as impossible, she might actually make it all the way to WH.
Anyway, isn't it a little early to write her off now?
Your soul was made of fists.
Jar the Sam
Jar the Sam
My argument was that he was more baggage then than he is now and she still almost won. So if she almost won then, then he wouldn't be any noteworthy baggage now. Do you not remember his "fairy tale" remark about then senator Obama that caused a lot of controversy?
And you call me the buffoon....Smiley: lol Don't get upset because you fail to connect the dots together without assistance....
...So, let me get this straight... you say all of this about how HRC will not be the nominee (based on baggage), but Warren will be, even though she said that she wouldn't be running? Forgive me for not taking your analysis seriously.
Thus we end our dialogue in this lifetime. Godspeed, my friend, sail your ship of ignorance right over the cliffs of obliviousness, I don't have time for you. If it seems like I've started ignoring all of your posts going forward, that's because I have. Good luck.
And you call me the buffoon....Smiley: lol Don't get upset because you fail to connect the dots together without assistance....
...So, let me get this straight... you say all of this about how HRC will not be the nominee (based on baggage), but Warren will be, even though she said that she wouldn't be running? Forgive me for not taking your analysis seriously.
Thus we end our dialogue in this lifetime. Godspeed, my friend, sail your ship of ignorance right over the cliffs of obliviousness, I don't have time for you. If it seems like I've started ignoring all of your posts going forward, that's because I have. Good luck.
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Smash wrote:
Thus we end our dialogue in this lifetime. Godspeed, my friend, sail your ship of ignorance right over the cliffs of obliviousness, I don't have time for you. If it seems like I've started ignoring all of your posts going forward, that's because I have. Good luck.
Given the fact that you responded to me and not the other way around, I'm not sure why you would think that I care if you ignore my posts. You're just butt hurt because I don't fall victim to your trolling. If I were you, I would ignore me too. Why be constantly embarrassed?
Is there where I stir the pot by pointing out that the additional baggage Clinton has today versus 2008 is her term as Secretary of State, and her disastrous performance in said post? You know, just to bring us full circle back to the OP...
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