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#27 Dec 23 2013 at 3:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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I figured replacing all of the groceries I'm about to lose was a more important use of our emergency funds given what discretionary funds we had remaining post Christmas shopping (we actually have a triple whammy this month but that's a longer story) are being spent on other ice storm expenses..

Have you thought about putting groceries outside if it is cold enough? Instead of letting stuff spoil in the fridge, let nature keep it cold. We use our (unheated) garage as a giant refrigerator during the winter months if the temperature drops. Not for long, but say left-over soup has never made any of us sick by leaving it there for a few days.
#28 Dec 23 2013 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, that's what's happening with the freezer stuff in about an hour when I get home. Lock it in a container in the backyard. Fridge stuff is already garbage, can't risk it. Another 72 hours for us according to utility company but that's been the generic response for a while...
#29 Dec 23 2013 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
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You shouldn't have to shut off your water and drain your pipes for a while during a power outage. Should have enough residual heat to cover for some time. If not you'd benefit from some insulation upgrades.


This started Saturday for most people here.


For me I'd run out of water long before having to worry about my pipes freezing.

But still, 2-3 days with no heat shouldn't bring your home down to below freezing temperatures. I wouldn't bother draining my pipes until the last moment. Mostly because once I did, without any power, I wouldn't have water again until the power came back on.
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#30 Dec 23 2013 at 6:58 PM Rating: Good
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You know, most hotels are empty right now. Bet you could get a room for $40 or so at a **** hole and maybe $70 at a half decent hotel.
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#31 Dec 23 2013 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
Just make sure the hotel has power....
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But still, 2-3 days with no heat shouldn't bring your home down to below freezing temperatures.

What a weird thing to say arbitrarily. It would vary wildly depending on so many variables that it would be impossible to predict accurately how long it would take if you had blueprints and a weather forecast. With a hand-waive? Crazy.
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Well, I did assume people wouldn't live in something like this. And maybe I was wrong in where I thought Southern Ontario was, but I thought it was that small piece of Canada right in the Great Lakes.

I did say that if they were that worried about pipes freezing over a short power outage then they would want to invest in some housing upgrades. Definitely save a lot of money if a couple days of cold weather could freeze your house. I'm imagining all the heat loss happening there... your house isn't supposed to look like this during the winter.
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You know, most hotels are empty right now. Bet you could get a room for $40 or so at a sh*t hole and maybe $70 at a half decent hotel.

I'd think hotels would be booked around the holidays. But I'm not some crazy hotel-guy neither.

Anyway, last time we had a major outage around here, the local hotels were booked up since no one else wanted to sit in the dark either (and I suppose the local-local places were in the dark themselves). We found a place but we had to cast a little father afield.
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they'll probably never be in a situation where they're burning the kitchen chairs to stay alive.
I'm teaching mine to do it for fun.
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#36 Dec 24 2013 at 2:44 AM Rating: Good
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Other people's kitchen chairs or yours?
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[quote=JophielI'd think hotels would be booked around the holidays. [/quote]In resort destinations, sure. Otherwise, it's pretty much a ghost town in all hotels until post Boxing Day.

I'm guessing you're thinking they'd be busy with all the people traveling home to visit relatives. Problem is they're traveling home to visit relatives who insist that they stay with them.
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#38 Dec 24 2013 at 6:46 AM Rating: Good
After our 4 departures today, we're hitting the ever elusive "0%" tonight with zero check-ins & no stayovers at my hotel in downtown Boston tonight.

I will be leaving early today on one of the rare occasions where it is beneficial to be salaried as opposed to hourly.

People flee cities during most holidays.

Edited, Dec 24th 2013 7:47am by Omegavegeta
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I'll admit that my sole experience was talking into the Washington D.C.area for Christmas. It was pretty well booked up even when we made the reservations but that could have been a situation unique to that location. Maybe they sweep all of the Capitol interns out of the basement.

Also, you guys work in hotels which distorts your view whereas my clear sight of common sense says that I'm right.
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#40 Dec 24 2013 at 7:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Omegavegeta wrote:
People flee cities during most holidays.
Yeah, mostly to my city. Smiley: motz
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#41 Dec 24 2013 at 8:29 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, mostly to my city.


Thanksgiving & New Years, for sure. Dunno what Christmas is like there, though. This being New England, most people leave Boston & venture up into the north woods for their Christmas'. Most of our business is business travel related & that doesn't happen much around holidays.
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#42 Dec 24 2013 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Still no power, threw out all of my food last night, apparently my fridge seal needs replacing cause it should have held longer than that. Well, turkey made it, it's in a friends freezer, not that it matters since I can't cook it.

Low of -14 today. It was damn cold last night, fire barely helping (I'm sure it is but it doesn't feel like it). Glad I shipped the family off. At work now, have taps running a tiny bit to keep them fluid. We're the only street in the neighborhood that's still out from what I can tell so fingers crossed..
#43 Dec 24 2013 at 9:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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What disturbs me is how many people simply don't own any wool or thermal clothing, let alone entire outfits of it. When i was a kid, and we wanted the heater on in Winter, we got asked if we were wearing wool socks and and a wool jumper (sweater)? If the answer was no, we had to go put on woolen socks and jumpers and then ask again later if we still wanted the heater on. Most of the time we didn't, we were warm and cosy in the right clothes. When i was a kid, while we didn't have much variety in the way of clothes and shoes, at all times I owned: A set of neck to wrist to ankle Thermal underwear. A pair of fine weave woolen slacks, some woolen socks, a fine weave woolen sweater, a chunky weave woolen sweater, a woolen/Thermal scarf, hat and gloves.

Wool stays warm when it gets wet. Wool chars instead of bursts into flame when it gets overheated or exposed to flame. Thermal material also stays warm when it's wet. Machine-wash wool on the Cold-Cold setting, don't tumble-dry it, and it never shrinks. Or buy the pre-shrunk wool clothing.
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I have lots of winter wear (Ice fishing). I'm staying warm but can't sleep in a skidoo suit :). Fine under blankets wearing layers but have to get up every hour or so to feed the fire. Not the end of the world just exhausting and really really annoying.
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I hope your lungs are better soon Smiley: frown
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We found a place but we had to cast a little father afield.

Not Milwaukee? I assume you'd eat the children and burn the house down for heat before it came to that.
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Well, then. Have a warm and merry Christmas.
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#49 Dec 25 2013 at 12:23 AM Rating: Good
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Yodabunny wrote:
I have lots of winter wear (Ice fishing). I'm staying warm but can't sleep in a skidoo suit :). Fine under blankets wearing layers but have to get up every hour or so to feed the fire. Not the end of the world just exhausting and really really annoying.

That would drive me crazy. No mummy bag? Even a regular sleeping bag + blankets would prevent the need for constantly stoking a fire. Unless you are doing it so that it's still going in the morning.


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trickybeck wrote:
Yodabunny wrote:
I have lots of winter wear (Ice fishing). I'm staying warm but can't sleep in a skidoo suit :). Fine under blankets wearing layers but have to get up every hour or so to feed the fire. Not the end of the world just exhausting and really really annoying.

That would drive me crazy. No mummy bag? Even a regular sleeping bag + blankets would prevent the need for constantly stoking a fire. Unless you are doing it so that it's still going in the morning.


Edited, Dec 25th 2013 12:24am by trickybeck


Was doing it to keep the interior of the house above freezing which it was quickly approaching. Only reason I was at the house still really.
#51 Dec 27 2013 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
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I do think you're probably too dependent on electricity. There are other heat sources that are good to have around as a backup - propane fireplaces are great for heating and I always keep one of those round kerosene heaters and several gallons of kerosene to run it out in the shed. We were without power when the hurricanes came through here and I can't tell you how great it was to have that little 23k btu piece of nostalgia.

I keep a couple candles around but the best, if you can find them, are those little kerosene lamps for lighting. I love those things. And of course the propane for the bbq and you can get little stoves that run on it too.

You might want to consider throwing some stuff like that in the garage for emergencies.
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