My gap is wider than your gap.Follow

Except that it's not. At least not directly. A difference in wealth equates to a difference in message volume. A rich person has a louder "voice" within society than a poor person. And yes, this means that a rich person can influence political outcomes more than a poor person. But I see two issues with that:

1. Not all rich people agree on everything. So the fear that the 1% will all just control everything is really a phantom fear. That 1% will have greater influence, but will spend most of that fighting amongst eachother.

2. This isn't really different than every other political system ever tried in the history of man. Find me a system where the "rich" don't have greater influence and power than the "poor". There isn't one. So the question isn't about whether they have more influence, but whether they have greater influence than other alternative methods, or whether the negatives of that influence imbalance could be lessened via some other changes.


I'd rather live in a system where a small number of wealthy individuals have an significant amount of influence over our government than one in which things are the other way around. And honestly, if we're to pick a method by which influence and power is gained, I'd much rather it be "guys who are successful at business" than "guys who are successful at government". But that's just me.

That's called an oligarchy.

Nice to have confirmation that you hate the American government, though.

I said "significant influence", not "total control". At least try to follow the context of the discussion.

So...if the control isn't 100% it's not an oligarchy? Interesting.

Oligarchy 1] is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people

Hondas have awesome resale values. We had to sell our 2 cars before moving from Hawaii, and I was expecting to be happy getting $1500 for our 2004 Honda Civic. We got $3500 for that car. I almost **** my pants. They had it parked out front before we left with a sticker that said $7900.

The only way to kill a Honda is to 1. Get in a serious accident or 2. Neglect it horribly.

My last oil change came with a caveat: The muffler is rotting. It'll probably die sometime in the next six months. Naw, you don't need a pre-emptive replacement for it. Just bring it back in when it starts sounding like a John Deere tractor.

That'll be the first major repair I did on it since a hose burst three years ago.

That falls under "neglect it horribly" I think.

No, not with a Honda it doesn't. That's not neglect, its not replacing the body when it starts going, because it will start going. Honda makes excellent engines, but terrible bodies.

Never had a problem with the Civic's body. But we only had it for about ten years. Maybe it takes longer than that?

Oh, another reason that car got us so much was that in 10 years, we only put 80k miles on it.

Maybe it's just a thing in places where we use road salt.

Fun fact: Most cities in Georgia north of I-20, which kind of splits the northern part of the state from the middle and southern areas, keep enough road salt on hand for exactly one major snow storm each year. If there is more than one storm in any given season, we're screwed. There is also exactly one snow plow in the entire city of Atlanta and like four total in the entire state owned by GDOT.

Edited, Nov 6th 2013 3:25pm by Catwho

Do you guys have high speed plows that keep streets clear during blizzards?