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#1 Oct 22 2013 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Where's the popcorn?

Not that we don't already know politicians are crooks and liars but this is pretty crazy for Canadian politicritters.
#2 Oct 22 2013 at 11:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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repay $90,000 or be fired.

He stole the entire Canadian defense fund?
#3 Oct 23 2013 at 6:19 AM Rating: Good
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Nope, still boring.
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#4 Oct 23 2013 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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That's missing at least another zero before it's something to be concerned about. The governor of my state owes two million dollars to somebody. Smiley: laugh

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#5 Oct 23 2013 at 6:42 AM Rating: Good
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That's missing at least another zero before it's something to be concerned about. The governor of my state owes two million dollars to somebody. Smiley: laugh

Edited, Oct 23rd 2013 8:35am by Catwho
To be fair, senators are appointed for life in Canada, so given some time, he could have easily surpassed that.

The scandal in my eyes is that we even still have a senate.
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#6 Oct 23 2013 at 7:20 AM Rating: Good
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The scandal in my eyes is that we even still have a senate.


Agreed.


Still boring.
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#7 Oct 23 2013 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm more interested in the outing of the cover-up by a senator than the $90,000. This is potentially catastrophic for the Harper administration.
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The only thing catastrophic for the Harper administration is a viable candidate leading either opposition party. Any other viable option and he's gone.
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#9 Oct 23 2013 at 9:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't know about that, this reeks of the Liberals a few years ago which was a boon for the NDP and nearly destroyed the Liberal party. If it doesn't go further than hearsay sure I agree but this seems like it could be a tip of the iceberg situation.
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I was hoping this involved the Québécois threatening the country in some way; Canadian politics is much more interesting when they're trying to split.
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I don't know about that, this reeks of the Liberals a few years ago which was a boon for the NDP and nearly destroyed the Liberal party. If it doesn't go further than hearsay sure I agree but this seems like it could be a tip of the iceberg situation.
He'll secure a narrow minority win unless Trudeau can rally the left base and steal some disenchanted right wingers. He's got to secure the left first though.
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#12 Oct 23 2013 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, Trudeau started out strong but fizzled pretty quickly when people realized there was no substance there. I think Harper and the conservatives have done a decent job for the most part but they're getting a bit too far right now for my liking. I don't want to be the USA.
#13 Oct 23 2013 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, Trudeau started out strong but fizzled pretty quickly when people realized there was no substance there. I think Harper and the conservatives have done a decent job for the most part but they're getting a bit too far right now for my liking. I don't want to be the USA.



Do you actually follow Canadian politics.

1) Surpluses become deficits.
End of years of surpluses your first year on the job. Since then Canada is at its highest debt level since post WW2.
More provinces in debt thanks to downloading government costs instead of tweaking how it pays for them.
Trade surplus of 8B now a deficit of 2B (10B swing in a decade)

2) Employment/Type
Manufacturing is dead in Canada service industry is following suit.
Only real employable markets are oil/gas/mining
Unemployment at all time highs in parts of nation
Ontario's largest employment crisis in History from lost manufacturing
Temprorary work is on the rise, large foreign competition in market place.

3) Living Value
Cost of living out paces growth of wealth
Canadian purchasing power is now lower around the world
Housing values in many communities are on the decline
There are doctor shortages
150 lakes and rivers no longer under environmental protection
Roads and Rails are deteriorating

4) Defense
Signed up for planes and ships have neither, with a timetable for neither at the present. Despite putting money down.
Reduction in size and scope of our military

5) International Image
Deteriorating due to stances on climate change
Deteriorating due to opposition on Palestinian Statehood and calls to have Israel inspected for arms
Deteriorating due to being caught spying on friends and allys
Deteriorating due to grandstanding human rights when we are imperfect at home.
Aboriginal crisis has been called a humanitarian issue by UN

6) Governmental
Guilty of election fraud
Held in contempt of parliament
Senate Scandal
3.1B missing (seriously no one knows where it went despite it being spent)
29B in backed Taxes that Government won't allow CRA to chase (over 80% in corporate back taxes)
Unethical prorogue of Parliament

For positives this is what we have.

1) 2008 did not kick us as hard as the US or EU, but this is simply Chretien's regulations in the 90's working as intended, and can hardly be attributed to Harper well I guess we could say thanks for not getting rid of them.
2) Potentially strong future with the EU trade deal, but also potentially weaker.

As for Trudeau, he has taken his flair as far as he can. His poll rise is representative of fringe voters, it displays the people who kinda like the Conservatives because they are not the NDP are interested, and that the people who kinda like the NDP but hate conservatives are interested. Essentially he has brought the liberals back to the % of interest that they had prior to last election when they got blown out of the water (mostly by the NDP).

The problem going forward is that Harpers Conservatives are not traditional conservatives, they are more closely associated to the old Reform party, which coincidentally Harper and most of the higher ups in CPC learned the trade of politics, under Preston Manning, which any Conservative would tell you was a tab nutters. Heck Harper even quit the Reform party because they were becoming to much like the PC party, who were further left than the Reform Party. In 2001 the Reform Party ran as the Canadian Alliance, and killed the PC party, 2 years later Harper was back and won the right to lead the rebranded Reform party, which was merged with the remmnents of the PC's and became the CPC.

Ironically the Liberals are now the most traditionally conservative in Canada. Ain't that a mind @#%^. What Harper has given us is this.

On average we have a bit more money, but it is worth a bunch less at home and around the world.

(I will be voting Liberal fyi, not because of Trudeau, but because Harper and his phony Conservative party have been bad for Canada as a whole)


Edited, Oct 23rd 2013 10:14pm by rdmcandie
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#14 Oct 24 2013 at 4:09 AM Rating: Good
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I was hoping this involved the Québécois threatening the country in some way; Canadian politics is much more interesting when they're trying to split.
You should pay attention to Belgian politics, they're basically arguing about whether or not to split non stop.
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Split how?
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Top half speaks Dutch, bottom half speaks French. The Dutch part wants to split the country in two because most of the wealth of the country is in the north, the French part obviously doesn't want a split. There's also a lot of arguing over some districts around Brussels and whether or not they belong to the Dutch or the French part of the country.
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#17 Oct 24 2013 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Works for me.

Smiley: popcorn

I've actually somehow caught bits and pieces of that over time. I'm assuming from my BBC reading, since I don't really remember, I can't imagine it making the news here. It is fairly amusing.
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They went over 500 days without a government, I'm pretty sure that made the news everywhere.
Ironically, them not having a government may just have proven to be a blessing in disguise as it helped them get out of the financial crisis.
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They went over 500 days without a government, I'm pretty sure that made the news everywhere.
Briefly maybe, we really don't hear much about other countries here unless we're bombing them. American news is pretty self-centered.
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My wife won't watch American news because it's so depressing.
#21 Oct 24 2013 at 5:38 PM Rating: Excellent
The Rob Ford smoking crack thing was way more amusing.
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My wife won't watch American news because it's so depressing.
We don't watch the news because there are better channels to get our fiction fix from.
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We don't watch the news because we learn all we need from Facebook posts. For instance, did you know they're passing a law in Turnipville, Wyoming that'll make all true Americans punished for believing in God by making them give their guns to illegal immigrants?

brb, posting this to facebook. I was totally unaware!!
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#25 Oct 24 2013 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
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The Rob Ford smoking crack thing was way more amusing.


I liked that one. The Montreal Mayor tied to the Mob was cool too. Remember when Rob Ford had his weight loss challenge and ended up heavier than before. He even challenged Rahm in Chitown, and Bloomberg in NYC.
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#26 Oct 31 2013 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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Hey guys this just in!

Toronto's police chief has confirmed the existence of the alleged Crack Video, and has confirmed that the events described by the media were accurate.

I heard TIFF will have a special video next year. Crack Smoking Mayor, and associated Murders: The Rob Ford Story.


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/toronto-police-chief-address-drug-investigation-linked-mayor-144559330.html

Edited, Oct 31st 2013 1:18pm by rdmcandie
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