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#27 Oct 18 2013 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
My low point was working at the university dining hall for minimum wage. Technically it meant I got free meals, but since I had opted for the school meal plan, that meant nothing. I quit and moved to telemarketing instead. It paid more, I got to sit down, and it did not involve getting put on the dish line once a week. (Ew.)

Was the job beneath me? After I finished my first semester of college and could put "some college" on my resume, then yes. The majority of folks who worked in food services were not university students, or they were exchange students and didn't have the required work permits to get a job outside of the school.
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Was the job beneath me? After I finished my first semester of college and could put "some college" on my resume, then yes
No it wasn't, not if the other option was government cheese.
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#31 Oct 18 2013 at 11:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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My low point was working at the university dining hall for minimum wage. Technically it meant I got free meals, but since I had opted for the school meal plan, that meant nothing. I quit and moved to telemarketing instead. It paid more, I got to sit down, and it did not involve getting put on the dish line once a week. (Ew.)

Jack in the Box here. Low point was getting chastised by my manager for accidentally giving someone a large drink instead of a medium one at the drive thru. Then she went on to berate me for working so many hours (because I totally scheduled myself for like 48 hours that week Smiley: rolleyes), and then she sent me home early because I was getting overtime at that point; which in retrospect probably helps explain the order goof up as well.

All in all I came to the conclusion that happy people by and large aren't fast food managers. I'll second that telemarketing (well being one of those student caller people at the University) was much preferable to that gauntlet.

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#32 Oct 18 2013 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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I worked at Dunkin Donuts. I can assure you that there isn't a single happy DD employee in the world. They all universally abhor their jobs.

There's nothing like a job where your average customer hasn't had their morning coffee yet...
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
There's nothing like a job where your average customer hasn't had their morning coffee yet...
You mean all your customers are dumb and ripe for well placed snarky remarks from you that, if done right, they'll completely miss? I don't see what's so bad about that.
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#34 Oct 18 2013 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
There's nothing like a job where your average customer hasn't had their morning coffee yet...
You mean all your customers are dumb and ripe for well placed snarky remarks from you that, if done right, they'll completely miss? I don't see what's so bad about that.


In my experience, nearly all your customers in a service job are dumb and ripe for well-placed snarky remarks, regardless of whether or not they're caffeinated. Smiley: lol
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#35 Oct 18 2013 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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Was the job beneath me? After I finished my first semester of college and could put "some college" on my resume, then yes
No it wasn't, not if the other option was government cheese.
I was on government cheese regardless of whether I worked or not, since my father was a disabled veteran and I thus got college veteran benefits ($600/semester) in lieu of my expected family contribution. I still worked 30 hours a week throughout college to cover the rest of the bills. Just not in food services.
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Unfortunately I have to agree with her. If it was something like Subway I could see your point, but no one should have to work at Taco Bell.

You're why poor people are poor.
Hey now that's crazy talk, how is it my fault Taco Bell is a blight on everything that's good and pure about fast food?
What, exactly, is good or pure about anything to do with fast food?
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Unfortunately I have to agree with her. If it was something like Subway I could see your point, but no one should have to work at Taco Bell.

You're why poor people are poor.
Hey now that's crazy talk, how is it my fault Taco Bell is a blight on everything that's good and pure about fast food?
What, exactly, is good or pure about anything to do with fast food?
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It really depends on where you set your limit at what you're considering fast food, nowadays. Chipotle is WAY better than Taco Bell. As good as an authentic Mexican restaurant? No. But when I leave Chipotle, it's not generally to find the nearest bathroom.

And most fast food places, at least with the chains they have around me, have done a decent job at making the scale of their offerings pretty huge. Sure, you could easily end up at over 1k calories at Mcdonalds. But if you are actually looking to eat more healthy, you can limit that down to 4-500 calories by eliminating the stuff that's producing most of the calories from fat.

That's not to say they're healthy options, to be fair. 500 calories at Panera is going to get you a lot more food, and food rich in vitamins/minerals/proteins, etc. But it's also going to cost you 3x the price.

To be fair, I still avoid McDonalds, Burger King, etc. I refuse to eat at Taco Bell or White Castle.

But the more reasonable fast food chains I'll go to. At Chipotle, I'll generally get a burrito bowl (meaning, a burrito without the tortilla). The only thing I feel meh about is the amount of sodium (though it isn't nearly as bad for you as most people think). To be fair, I don't get sour cream or cheese, which add a lot of fat. Panera's "hidden" menu is great, as are many of their salads and sandwiches (though avoiding the soups is a good idea in general). Muscle Maker Grill is really quite reasonable - generally no empty ingredients, and they do a decent job grilling chicken in my experience. Jamba Juice is dangerous if you go for the regular smoothies, but pretty reasonable if you go the "light" route.

And to be 100% fair, all of these are going to cost you a fair bit more than you'll pay at Taco Bell.
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Poor is different for everyone. I think.

When I grew up my family wasn't economically powerful, but we had fun, I have great memories and wouldn't change it for the world. Now I have more economic power, and it has really not affected my lifestyle. I still slot in as a number 4 on that list. Could probably make more money, but I already make more than enough to get by, why bother, id rather go fishing. Or golfing, but I live in Canada and courses are closed now.

What of the many wealthy folks who are empty because while money can buy them anything it is never lasting.

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WTF are you talking about Willis? The golf courses are still open here.
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#41 Oct 18 2013 at 4:47 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
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Most of the poor people I know (which is few since I don't associate with poor people) over value their self worth and are unwilling to work a job that is beneath them or for someone who doesn't treat them like having them work for them is a privilege.

My ex had the curious impression that it was somehow more degrading to work at Taco Bell than it is to have people repossess your car. Go figure.


That matches my #5. You might be surprised on how many people follow that logic. I knew a guy who was trying to break into the IT world, but was struggling. He refused to just take any 'ole job, but wanted that job that would jump start his career. In the mean time, he was struggling to make ends meet. He had this obsession that I somehow had connections to get him a Department of the Army Civilian job. I continuously had to inform him that I didn't. 'Twas the first time I ever felt like totally ignoring someone.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
It really depends on where you set your limit at what you're considering fast food, nowadays. Chipotle is WAY better than Taco Bell. As good as an authentic Mexican restaurant? No. But when I leave Chipotle, it's not generally to find the nearest bathroom.
It's apparently not uncommon for Chipotle to cause a run for the bathroom.Very Mildly NSFW. I just wish they'd stop putting cilantro in gorram everything.
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He had this obsession that I somehow had connections to get him a Department of the Army Civilian job.

Wait, I thought he didn't want to work for Taco Bell. Aim High.
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He had this obsession that I somehow had connections to get him a Department of the Army Civilian job.

Wait, I thought he didn't want to work for Taco Bell. Aim High.


For the exception of the furloughs, I'm sure that you have no idea what you're referring to.
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For the exception of the furloughs, I'm sure that you have no idea what you're referring to.

With. With the exception. Depending on the time frame of when he asked you, I'm reasonably certain I could have provided him a civilian job with AFCS in about an hour. Today it would probably take me 2 hours and a case of whiskey.
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WTF are you talking about Willis? The golf courses are still open here.


Lucky all the ones near me shut down at the end of September.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
It really depends on where you set your limit at what you're considering fast food, nowadays. Chipotle is WAY better than Taco Bell. As good as an authentic Mexican restaurant? No. But when I leave Chipotle, it's not generally to find the nearest bathroom.
It's apparently not uncommon for Chipotle to cause a run for the bathroom.Very Mildly NSFW. I just wish they'd stop putting cilantro in gorram everything.


I'm guessing you are one of those weirdos that think cilantro tastes like soap?
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Due to chronic depression and pain, I can't work, but what really dropped me below the poverty line was my divorce, from a guy who quits his job due to panic attacks over being transgender. I got a decent telemarketing job for 10 months, but the stress my ex was causing me, made me too sick to hold on a job. I had a few periods, where he actually paid child support or a large chunk of his retirement money that I lived off for awhile, before I started getting SSI.

I make a little on the side making jewelry, but I'm still needing to invest in supplies more then I can make selling the jewelry. I'm trying to work more in silver too, which is hard to finance up front. once I sell a few of my better pieces I should be making enough
to maybe get off the SSI, but don't count on ever making enough to be more then just a starving artist. Then that's was what I figure I be growing up anyway.

At the moment I'm not poor, as I got money coming in from inheritance. Just enough to live off comfortably for awhile, but not enough to be able to invest and live off the income, though part of my inheritance will be in P&G stock. I brought the one important item I needed for polishing most of the jewelry I make now days, that I couldn't do with tools I already own, and then it's time to work on selling the 3 finished sterling silver pieces recently made, so I can get more silver. I need to see about doing lost wax casting again too, as I loved working with it in high school.
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For the exception of the furloughs, I'm sure that you have no idea what you're referring to.

With. With the exception. Depending on the time frame of when he asked you, I'm reasonably certain I could have provided him a civilian job with AFCS in about an hour. Today it would probably take me 2 hours and a case of whiskey.


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You're doing this all wrong... This is supposed to initiate a 2-3 page discussion on your lack of understanding of DACs, with a tangent on something like abortion or religion. Let's try this again... This time with a little more flair.

*clear throats*

Your inaccurate contention demonstrates your ignorance on how being a DA Civilian trumps the average job!
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I'm guessing you are one of those weirdos that think cilantro tastes like soap?


It does! And not tasty soap either. It's apperently a genetic condition.

I've literally never had just 1 job, but one of my pair of the first two jobs was working at Pretzel Time. Neon pink shirts, 500 degree ovens on constantly, but it was kind of like working in a bakery rather than fast food. In the mall Heirarchy of after hours food trades, we were usually considered the desired comodity, second only to the cookie store and cinnabon. But yeah, those neon pink shirts sucked. The funny thing is I don't even really like Pretzels. I can make one from a ball of douch to a fully rolled and formed pretzil in about 10 seconds though!
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For the exception of the furloughs, I'm sure that you have no idea what you're referring to.

With. With the exception. Depending on the time frame of when he asked you, I'm reasonably certain I could have provided him a civilian job with AFCS in about an hour. Today it would probably take me 2 hours and a case of whiskey.


Smiley: disappointed

You're doing this all wrong... This is supposed to initiate a 2-3 page discussion on your lack of understanding of DACs, with a tangent on something like abortion or religion. Let's try this again... This time with a little more flair.

*clear throats*

Your inaccurate contention demonstrates your ignorance on how being a DA Civilian trumps the average job!

Wrong whackadoodle there. You're on the left end of the see-saw.
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