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#52 Oct 15 2013 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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Catwho,

Until and unless you are a card-carrying member of the He-man Woman Haters Club you're not even on the same playing field as Varus. Sorry.

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I was a part of that club. When I was 5-6 yrs old.
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I was a part of that club. When I was 5-6 yrs old.
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It reflects poorly on their more moderate colleges who, while still wanting concessions, are perfectly willing to do find some common-ground/compromise solution

Yes, "Moderate" is what we call kidnappers who are willing to agree to just the volcano island in return for freeing their hostage and don't also demand the spaceship sculpted to look like their head.
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Or the ones who would have passed a budget a week ago if given the chance, or would have been happy fiddling with the medical device tax. The ones who are looking at a hard re-election battle if too much right-wing rhetoric gets passed around. Still though, I can't really blame them for holding out for the whole volcano island lair really. Those do have a certain amount of quaint charm to them. Smiley: nod
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Or the ones who would have passed a budget a week ago if given the chance, or would have been happy fiddling with the medical device tax. The ones who are looking at a hard re-election battle if too much right-wing rhetoric gets passed around. Still though, I can't really blame them for holding out for the whole volcano island lair really. Those do have a certain amount of quaint charm to them. Smiley: nod


Psst. The medical device tax change IS the volcanic island. Plus whatever they peel out of the continuation of this charade in a few months. As long as it keeps working, the FF&C of the USA will be the hammer that drives the thin edge of the wedge deeper and deeper into deconstructing various aspects of the social safety net.
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The House has dropped the medical device tax provisions from their framework. According to Robert Costa, they're "trying to get to 218" -- I assume that's largely 218 GOP votes.

They dropped the reinsurance tax delay earlier (because it was seen as a Democratic win) so that seems to just leave the income verification and some form of Vitter amendment left. Certainly worth cratering your numbers and crapping on your position for that.

Also, Rep. John Flemming (R-LA) admitted that the House plan is to run out the clock and try to pass a House bill at the last possible second to force the Senate to accept it. So, you know, there's some world class governing for ya.

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Also, Rep. John Flemming (R-LA) admitted that the House plan is to run out the clock and try to pass a House bill at the last possible second to force the Senate to accept it. So, you know, there's some world class governing for ya.

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Pretty clear that congress has lost the mandate of heaven. Expect seventy-thousand peasants to seize the capital any day now.
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Or the ones who would have passed a budget a week ago if given the chance, or would have been happy fiddling with the medical device tax. The ones who are looking at a hard re-election battle if too much right-wing rhetoric gets passed around. Still though, I can't really blame them for holding out for the whole volcano island lair really. Those do have a certain amount of quaint charm to them. Smiley: nod


Psst. The medical device tax change IS the volcanic island. Plus whatever they peel out of the continuation of this charade in a few months. As long as it keeps working, the FF&C of the USA will be the hammer that drives the thin edge of the wedge deeper and deeper into deconstructing various aspects of the social safety net.
And if people are really opposed to the slow chipping away of these things they'll turn those moderate red seats to moderate blue ones.
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Or the ones who would have passed a budget a week ago if given the chance, or would have been happy fiddling with the medical device tax. The ones who are looking at a hard re-election battle if too much right-wing rhetoric gets passed around. Still though, I can't really blame them for holding out for the whole volcano island lair really. Those do have a certain amount of quaint charm to them. Smiley: nod


Psst. The medical device tax change IS the volcanic island. Plus whatever they peel out of the continuation of this charade in a few months. As long as it keeps working, the FF&C of the USA will be the hammer that drives the thin edge of the wedge deeper and deeper into deconstructing various aspects of the social safety net.
And if people are really opposed to the slow chipping away of these things they'll turn those moderate red seats to moderate blue ones.


What moderate red House seats?
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Or the ones who would have passed a budget a week ago if given the chance, or would have been happy fiddling with the medical device tax. The ones who are looking at a hard re-election battle if too much right-wing rhetoric gets passed around. Still though, I can't really blame them for holding out for the whole volcano island lair really. Those do have a certain amount of quaint charm to them. Smiley: nod


Psst. The medical device tax change IS the volcanic island. Plus whatever they peel out of the continuation of this charade in a few months. As long as it keeps working, the FF&C of the USA will be the hammer that drives the thin edge of the wedge deeper and deeper into deconstructing various aspects of the social safety net.
And if people are really opposed to the slow chipping away of these things they'll turn those moderate red seats to moderate blue ones.


What moderate red House seats?
Really? Smiley: dubious

Well here's a list of 24 of them, from what I could find with 30 seconds of googling stuff.
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Tonight's House vote canceled. Whip counts must have failed to get 218 Republicans. Be a big loss for Boehner if he can't get something passed before the Senate bill.
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We've also been told to pick up our toys already or we're going to be in trouble. No word on whether or not they've started counting to 3 yet.
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It reflects poorly on their more moderate colleges who, while still wanting concessions, are perfectly willing to do find some common-ground/compromise solution

Yes, "Moderate" is what we call kidnappers who are willing to agree to just the volcano island in return for freeing their hostage and don't also demand the spaceship sculpted to look like their head.

Great metaphor, Mr. Krugman.
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We've also been told to pick up our toys already or we're going to be in trouble. No word on whether or not they've started counting to 3 yet.

Yeah last time a rating agency downgraded US debt....nothing at all happened. Fitch is a fucking joke.
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I'd be more tolerant of them if they would stop going on racist, hate filled screeds every five minutes and bemoaning how the country is falling apart because we have a black President (well, I guess the country is falling apart at the moment, but it's not because Obama is black.) At leas they don't believe the End Times are coming, unlike most of their fellow Tea Partiers.

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with.

Since we're being stereotypical and incendiary, I'd be much more tolerant of liberals if they weren't constantly: telling me what I can and cannot do, say and think in the name of "civility"; raiding my personal income to pay for another social welfare program that redistributes money instead of addressing the underlying societal and institutional issues; blindly supporting "the most transparent administration in history", which actually has a pretty horrendous track record (per the standard liberal platform) on surveillance of private citizens, upholding constitutional press freedoms, prosecution of whistle-blowers, detention of enemy combatants, unlawfully killing American citizens, withholding information from Congressional oversight under "executive privilege", enforcing "red lines", etc.; demonizing "Big Pharma", "Big Oil", "Big Banks", "Big Agriculture", "Big Tobacco", "Big Papi" (New York liberals only), Wallstreet, Fox News, the Koch brothers, the Tea Party, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann for all of the country's problems.

But honestly, the thing that irritates me the most is constantly playing the race card. On everything. Because anybody that disagrees with the Standard Liberal Doctrine is automatically a racist.

Which brings us full circle, I guess. I look forward to your rate-downs, you commie-loving cnuts. ♥
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Sounds like a bunch of racist lies to me, racist.
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Tonight's House vote canceled. Whip counts must have failed to get 218 Republicans. Be a big loss for Boehner if he can't get something passed before the Senate bill.

I find it somewhat amusing and baffling, in equal measures, that they can choose to call or cancel votes based on presumption of whether or not they already have the votes needed.
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Well, that's the way it's always done with both parties in both chambers. Whoever is running the show doesn't want to put a bill up, especially a politically inflammatory one, and have it collapse. So you have "whips" whose job it is to get the feel for how people will vote and try to convince them to support the leader. These days the Senate calls them "Assistant Majority/Minority Leader" instead of "Whip" but the job is the same. Senator Durbin (D-IL) is the Assistant Majority Leader (aka Chief Whip) for the Democrats in the Senate.

Anywho...
National Review Online wrote:
Referring to his plan to preemptively send the Senate a House-passed bill, Speaker John Boehner told his conference this morning that he’d “rather throw a grenade than catch a grenade.” But with his right-wing troops abandoning him again, it was the speaker who was left holding the bomb.

After a day of furious negotiating with fellow Republicans over how to tweak a bill he had unveiled in the morning, it was left to stunned members of his leadership team to confirm to reporters that the vote had been canceled.
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“It’s all over. We’ll take the Senate deal,” says a senior GOP aide. Senator Mitch McConnell’s office quickly noted to reporters that the Kentucky Republican would be taking back the lead.
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I'd be more tolerant of them if they would stop going on racist, hate filled screeds every five minutes and bemoaning how the country is falling apart because we have a black President (well, I guess the country is falling apart at the moment, but it's not because Obama is black.) At leas they don't believe the End Times are coming, unlike most of their fellow Tea Partiers.

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with.

Since we're being stereotypical and incendiary, I'd be much more tolerant of liberals if they weren't constantly: telling me what I can and cannot do, say and think in the name of "civility"; raiding my personal income to pay for another social welfare program that redistributes money instead of addressing the underlying societal and institutional issues; blindly supporting "the most transparent administration in history", which actually has a pretty horrendous track record (per the standard liberal platform) on surveillance of private citizens, upholding constitutional press freedoms, prosecution of whistle-blowers, detention of enemy combatants, unlawfully killing American citizens, withholding information from Congressional oversight under "executive privilege", enforcing "red lines", etc.; demonizing "Big Pharma", "Big Oil", "Big Banks", "Big Agriculture", "Big Tobacco", "Big Papi" (New York liberals only), Wallstreet, Fox News, the Koch brothers, the Tea Party, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann for all of the country's problems.

But honestly, the thing that irritates me the most is constantly playing the race card. On everything. Because anybody that disagrees with the Standard Liberal Doctrine is automatically a racist.

Which brings us full circle, I guess. I look forward to your rate-downs, you commie-loving cnuts. ♥



That is pretty much what happens outside of mixed company. They won't say that in public but that is what is said behind closed doors. Thing is you are one bad day away from being on those same programs you hate so much right there in line with those same people you don't like now.

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Maybe I'm misreading Demea's comments, but I'm pretty sure you read what you wanted to read on that item and not what was said.
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Maybe, but you get sick of hearing it down here. I find reasons not to be around much of my family all of which don't understand that the best thing to ever happen for Fox news and the rest was Obama getting elected and taking everything they say as if it were in the bible. I'm all for fiscal conservatives if they are really thinking about responsible cuts and not just to social safety nets but cut from everyone. The ones around here that are not spewing hate are spewing hyper patriotism and wouldn't hear any argument to touch defense spending.
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I'd be more tolerant of them if they would stop going on racist, hate filled screeds every five minutes and bemoaning how the country is falling apart because we have a black President (well, I guess the country is falling apart at the moment, but it's not because Obama is black.) At leas they don't believe the End Times are coming, unlike most of their fellow Tea Partiers.

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with.

Since we're being stereotypical and incendiary, I'd be much more tolerant of liberals if they weren't constantly: telling me what I can and cannot do, say and think in the name of "civility"; raiding my personal income to pay for another social welfare program that redistributes money instead of addressing the underlying societal and institutional issues;
This is a place the parties can come together.

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But honestly, the thing that irritates me the most is constantly playing the race card. On everything. Because anybody that disagrees with the Standard Liberal Doctrine is automatically a racist.
So be irritated. It's a media talking point - a weightless fact of life.

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Uh, no. Republicans are some of the most intolerant people on the planet. Dems, as a whole, are very "live and let live" provided the living doesn't involve harm to other people (like the Libertarians believe).


My statement still stands. Republicans (or conservatives) tend not to tolerate "different", but Democrats have a problem with accepting others not accepting other people, even if tolerated. You have the right to be a bigot, the problem arises when your bigotry violates other rights.

In other words, Republicans have problems with the poor homosexual Muslim Asian woman being near them, Democrats have a problem with you not wanting to befriend the poor homosexual Muslim Asian woman.

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I'd be more tolerant of them if they would stop going on racist, hate filled screeds every five minutes and bemoaning how the country is falling apart because we have a black President (well, I guess the country is falling apart at the moment, but it's not because Obama is black.) At leas they don't believe the End Times are coming, unlike most of their fellow Tea Partiers.

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with.

Since we're being stereotypical and incendiary, I'd be much more tolerant of liberals if they weren't constantly: telling me what I can and cannot do, say and think in the name of "civility"; raiding my personal income to pay for another social welfare program that redistributes money instead of addressing the underlying societal and institutional issues; blindly supporting "the most transparent administration in history", which actually has a pretty horrendous track record (per the standard liberal platform) on surveillance of private citizens, upholding constitutional press freedoms, prosecution of whistle-blowers, detention of enemy combatants, unlawfully killing American citizens, withholding information from Congressional oversight under "executive privilege", enforcing "red lines", etc.; demonizing "Big Pharma", "Big Oil", "Big Banks", "Big Agriculture", "Big Tobacco", "Big Papi" (New York liberals only), Wallstreet, Fox News, the Koch brothers, the Tea Party, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann for all of the country's problems.

But honestly, the thing that irritates me the most is constantly playing the race card. On everything. Because anybody that disagrees with the Standard Liberal Doctrine is automatically a racist.

Which brings us full circle, I guess. I look forward to your rate-downs, you commie-loving cnuts. ♥


Two people is a broad brush? Smiley: dubious I was talking about my in-laws in that paragraph.
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In other words, Republicans have problems with the poor homosexual Muslim Asian woman being near them, Democrats have a problem with you not wanting to befriend the poor homosexual Muslim Asian woman.

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350 lbs and in a wheel chair; because she got hit while walking to her theoretical psychics class by a Mercedes driven by a drunk multimillionaire.

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She's also on foostamps and welfare and is here illegally. Plus, she sued a company who tried to hire her for not having a wheelchair ramp for a million dollars.
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Just gaming affirmative action and keeping decent hard-working white students out of college.
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I'm just interested in finding out more about theoretical psychics...
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Congress should be moved from the boob topped building into a steel cage, where the extremes of both parties should be sent in to fight to the death, at which point the winner is allowed to introduce bills to be voted on. And by voted on, I mean equal numbers of both parties are sent back into the cage to fight to the death, and whoever has the most standing at the end of three minutes wins.
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Congress should be moved from the boob topped building into a steel cage, where the extremes of both parties should be sent in to fight to the death, at which point the winner is allowed to introduce bills to be voted on. And by voted on, I mean equal numbers of both parties are sent back into the cage to fight to the death, and whoever has the most standing at the end of three minutes wins.




Put it on Pay-Per-view and use the money it would raise to fund what ever bill is passed and you got a golden idea.

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