Yesterday in Vermont a woman was shot to death in a road rage incident.
From what I've read things played out like this; A guy in a car ran a red light nearly crashing into another car. The driver of the this car follows the red-light runner and confronts him. The guy who ran the red light has a gun and as the raging woman approaches him, he shoots her dead.
Vermont police are wavering between charging him with 2nd degree murder of 3rd degree murder.
If this had happened in Florida, would you say the driver with the gun that ran the red light and was then followed and confronted by an angry woman was 'standing his ground'?
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Alma wrote:
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No but unlike the infamous FL case, there isn't even an argument that a physical altercation was occurring or about to occur.
Belkira wrote:
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Elinda wrote:
Vermont police are wavering between charging him with 2nd degree murder of 3rd degree murder.
Don't know and don't care how it would play out in Florida.
Edited, Sep 26th 2013 9:31am by lolgaxe
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Jophiel wrote:
No but unlike the infamous FL case, there isn't even an argument that a physical altercation was occurring or about to occur.
If you follow some stranger in your car simply because they pissed you off in traffic infraction, and then pull over and actually confront them, wouldn't that be evidence that you were instigating a physical altercation?
Alma wrote:
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Elinda wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
No but unlike the infamous FL case, there isn't even an argument that a physical altercation was occurring or about to occur.
I wouldn't think so. Or at least not enough evidence by itself to excuse killing the other person. People also "confront" one another all the time to exchange angry, non-life-threatening words.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
No but unlike the infamous FL case, there isn't even an argument that a physical altercation was occurring or about to occur.
I wouldn't think so. Or at least not enough evidence by itself to excuse killing the other person. People also "confront" one another all the time to exchange angry, non-life-threatening words.
Good times.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
someproteinguy wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
No but unlike the infamous FL case, there isn't even an argument that a physical altercation was occurring or about to occur.
I wouldn't think so. Or at least not enough evidence by itself to excuse killing the other person. People also "confront" one another all the time to exchange angry, non-life-threatening words.
Good times.
It seems to me this is one of those situations where if you do a bit of gender swapping add in an ambiguous law a totally different outcome could come out of it.
If the red-light runner were a pretty little white woman, and the pissed off road-raging, car-following and confronting person was a big ugly black dude. Her shooting him might seem reasonable.
Alma wrote:
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Elinda wrote:
If the red-light runner were a pretty little white woman, and the pissed off road-raging, car-following and confronting person was a big ugly black dude. Her shooting him might seem reasonable.
To whom?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Elinda wrote:
If the red-light runner were a pretty little white woman, and the pissed off road-raging, car-following and confronting person was a big ugly black dude. Her shooting him might seem reasonable.
To whom?
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
To whom?
Americans? Obviously it's ok to shoot a scary black guy. One, it's Vermont, so the shock of seeing a black guy alone allows justifiable homicide. Two, if the perp was a frail white woman, he'd obviously only be following to rape her.
Hard to say how different it would be really, other than the news story would read "woman kills would be rapist" and would be on page 45 of "The Maple Syrup Times" or whatever those people use for news.
Americans? Obviously it's ok to shoot a scary black guy. One, it's Vermont, so the shock of seeing a black guy alone allows justifiable homicide. Two, if the perp was a frail white woman, he'd obviously only be following to rape her.
Hard to say how different it would be really, other than the news story would read "woman kills would be rapist" and would be on page 45 of "The Maple Syrup Times" or whatever those people use for news.
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Jophiel wrote:
Elinda wrote:
If the red-light runner were a pretty little white woman, and the pissed off road-raging, car-following and confronting person was a big ugly black dude. Her shooting him might seem reasonable.
To whom?
I bet Georgie Z would be ok with it.
Alma wrote:
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Smasharoo wrote:
To whom?Americans?
No wonder I vote Democrat; I'm not a real American
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
No wonder I vote Democrat; I'm not a real American
Well, you clearly don't own enough guns, aren't morbidly obese, and don't seem to care about sports at all. Also you had a half Peruvian anchor baby recently.
Completely off topic, I had occasion to see the seal of the city of Chicago for the first time recently.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chicago_city_seal.png
What the hell is going on there?? IS the Indian going to eat the baby and the escape on a ship before the mushroom cloud?
Well, you clearly don't own enough guns, aren't morbidly obese, and don't seem to care about sports at all. Also you had a half Peruvian anchor baby recently.
Completely off topic, I had occasion to see the seal of the city of Chicago for the first time recently.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chicago_city_seal.png
What the hell is going on there?? IS the Indian going to eat the baby and the escape on a ship before the mushroom cloud?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Well you're not going to leave the baby for after escaping. You don't know if you'll make it or not.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
It's taught in Chicago Public Schools, that the Pilgrims originally landed on the shores of Lake Michigan, guided by the yet-unborn infant ghost of Richard J. Daley. There, they informed the Indians that they had a guy from the Compost Union who needed a job and maybe the Native American mushroom farm could hire him in exchange for overlooking what appeared to be improper agricultural zoning permits.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
It's taught in Chicago Public Schools, that the Pilgrims originally landed on the shores of Lake Michigan, guided by the yet-unborn infant ghost of Richard J. Daley. There, they informed the Indians that they had a guy from the Compost Union who needed a job and maybe the Native American mushroom farm could hire him in exchange for overlooking what appeared to be improper agricultural zoning permits.
Mixture of hot asphalt fumes and diesel, mainly.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Still better than the pedophile Indian bribing the yo-yo playing Dutch boy with a windmill and a bunch of beavers.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I'm not sure why you all think that baby is so freaking innocent. He's probably representative of the first Chicago Mobster.
Alma wrote:
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Smasharoo wrote:
[b]What the hell is going on there?? IS the Indian going to eat the baby and the escape on a ship before the mushroom cloud?
The bomb has already gone off. Everyone knows it's all leathers and feathers in the post-apocalyptic wasteland after Varus nukes Chicago. The baby in the clouds is clearly God watching over the alpha and the omega; from when the civilized man came to this land until he decends once again, back into savagery.
Just as Planned.
For a minute I was thinking it actually was a mushroom cloud, since Chicago was home to the first controlled nuclear chain reaction. And I thought "why didn't the use the atomic energy symbol instead?" Then I realized it was wheat, which also doesn't apply very well since they hardly grow much wheat in Illinois anymore.
Celebrating harvest festivals always feels weird in the city, but I'm not about to give up the costume parties.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Not really related, but I thought it was a more amusing example of road raeg ( tm).
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