Forum Settings
       
« Previous 1 2 3
Reply To Thread

MPG & UFollow

#1 Sep 10 2013 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
Meat Popsicle
*****
11,601 posts
Linky that made me thinky bout this.

So they say your car is supposed to go so far on so much gas, and you believe them kinda, or not because they're all lying trolls trying to get their hands on your hard-earned money. But ultimately you get a car and drive it around the numbers pop up on the little screen, or you do the math in your head, or you simply don't care and drive around wondering where all that extra cash has gone as your engine gets coated in goop.

So are those fuel economy ratings any good? Do you even care? Does your car do better or worse than listed? Do you think that's your fault or did someone pull a fast one on you?

How does your automobile do?
Better than estimated and it's because I'm awesome.:5 (45.5%)
Worse than estimated; but it's my fault.:1 (9.1%)
Better than estimated, company screwed up.:0 (0.0%)
Worse than estimated, they lied to me!:1 (9.1%)
Don't know, don't care, don't drive, don't nothin':2 (18.2%)
I'm nothing but a tool of the automobile industry and believe the mileage I get is almost exactly as advertized.:2 (18.2%)
Total:11


Me?

Our Rav4 is rated 24/31 MPG. We never seem to make the in-town economy we're supposed to, and spend most of the time barely breaking 20. However I've blamed the abundance of hills and what not for that mostly. The highway mileage seems low though. We averaged 35-38MPG on our last vacation which had about 2500 miles of highway driving on it, so I kind of wonder why that one wasn't listed higher. Odd stuff, as one doesn't usually expect to make the listed mileage, at least in my experience.

Edited, Sep 10th 2013 1:59pm by someproteinguy
____________________________
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
#2 Sep 10 2013 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
******
43,432 posts
Car salesmen lie. Possible racist somewhere in the world. Politicians use politics in political ways. Dragons run for congress.

And it's only Tuesday.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#3 Sep 10 2013 at 2:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Worse than estimated. Probably my fault... car is a 2005 and hasn't had a tune-up, etc and until a week ago my tires were bald like Telly Savalas and one was running half flat much of the time from a plugged double puncture.

Supposedly my car gets 20 city/27 highway. In reality I get around 17 mph between long stretches of open road (~60 mph) and stints of suburbia stop & go streetlights. I should probably try to do something about that.

Edited, Sep 10th 2013 3:09pm by Jophiel
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#4 Sep 10 2013 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
19,648 posts
I drive 140 miles a day. I really don't want to think about it.
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#5 Sep 10 2013 at 2:18 PM Rating: Excellent
What the **** is this archaic MPG. /bah
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#6 Sep 10 2013 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
Encyclopedia
******
31,475 posts
There's no option for "I get right about what I expected".
____________________________
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#7 Sep 10 2013 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
Meat Popsicle
*****
11,601 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
What the @#%^ is this archaic MPG. /bah


Fine, 15+ km/l.

Canadians... Smiley: oyvey

I'm usually pretty good, but this is one of those things I just can't translate in my head. Inch->cm, temperature, volume, etc all that stuff comes fairly easily; but changing two units at once... ugh! Was talking to the relatives about this when I was up in Edmonton, and was just glad they'd grown up using English units, at least for a time. Smiley: lol

Edited, Sep 10th 2013 1:35pm by someproteinguy
____________________________
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
#8 Sep 10 2013 at 2:36 PM Rating: Excellent
38 MPG is 6.19 L/100km

km/l isn't a thing.

The transposition is hard because you're not just converting two units, but also swapping the relationship.

Edited, Sep 10th 2013 3:37pm by Xsarus
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#9 Sep 10 2013 at 2:37 PM Rating: Excellent
Meat Popsicle
*****
11,601 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
38 MPG is 6.19 L/100km

km/l isn't a thing.
Yeah. What's with the backwards stuff?

Sir Xsarus wrote:
The transposition is hard because you're not just converting two units, but also swapping the relationship.
Yeah, this. Smiley: lol


Edited, Sep 10th 2013 1:38pm by someproteinguy
____________________________
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
#10 Sep 10 2013 at 2:38 PM Rating: Excellent
someproteinguy wrote:
Sir Xsarus wrote:
38 MPG is 6.19 L/100km

km/l isn't a thing.
Yeah. What's with the backwards stuff?

L/100km lets you very easily calculate cost for any trip based on distance.
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#11 Sep 10 2013 at 2:43 PM Rating: Excellent
Meat Popsicle
*****
11,601 posts
But you can do that without writing it backwards too. Or is this a color/colour thing? Or maybe it's just my elementary math teacher's harping on me for too long.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REDUCE THE DENOMINATOR!!! Smiley: schooled

Edited, Sep 10th 2013 1:49pm by someproteinguy
____________________________
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
#12 Sep 10 2013 at 2:48 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,854 posts
Mine are exactly dead on...
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#13 Sep 10 2013 at 2:49 PM Rating: Excellent
Not as easily.

take a 600 mile trip, how many gallons is that? 600/38 = **** it.

Take a 1000 km trip, that's 10 units * 6 litres is 60 litres.
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#14 Sep 10 2013 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
******
27,004 posts
I usually see it as a shorthand for 1 liter every xx kilometers in Dutch (1 op xx). I don't pay a whole lot of attention though as I cycle pretty much everywhere anyway.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#15 Sep 10 2013 at 2:55 PM Rating: Excellent
Meat Popsicle
*****
11,601 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
take a 600 mile trip, how many gallons is that? 600/38 = @#%^ it.
A bit over 15...

Either way the car has a thingy that says how much further until you putter out. Which, while being super awesome, doesn't agree with the woman in the passenger seat who demands we stop anytime the gauge approaches 1/4 tank. Smiley: rolleyes
____________________________
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
#16 Sep 10 2013 at 3:02 PM Rating: Excellent
Meat Popsicle
*****
11,601 posts
gbaji wrote:
There's no option for "I get right about what I expected".


Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Mine are exactly dead on...


Poll has been edited based on your valued feedback. Smiley: thumbsup
____________________________
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
#17 Sep 10 2013 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
Prodigal Son
*****
19,888 posts
someproteinguy wrote:
gbaji wrote:
There's no option for "I get right about what I expected".


Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Mine are exactly dead on...


Poll has been edited based on your valued feedback. Smiley: thumbsup

Still not.

My Malibu (faux)hybrid is listed as 26/34=29. Right now my computer is reading 28.4 since I stopped driving it for work. I've gotten 33-34 on the highways before (I did upwards of 1200-1500 miles per week last summer) but these days it's mostly relegated to in-town, and it needs a tune-up and an...evap purge vent replaced.
____________________________
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#18 Sep 10 2013 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
15,670 posts
My car does about what the sticker said - still, I believe. It's two now.

In the summer I average around 32 in the winter it drops by a good 4 mpg.

Didn't Ford just get whacked by the EPA for fudging it's MPG ratings?
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#19 Sep 10 2013 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
Encyclopedia
******
31,475 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
Not as easily.

take a 600 mile trip, how many gallons is that? 600/38 = @#%^ it.

Take a 1000 km trip, that's 10 units * 6 litres is 60 litres.


Ok. But if you have a 10 gallon tank, listing it as MPG allows you to know how far you can go between gas stations. Which is important when you live somewhere where you don't bump into another country every 100 miles or so. So in your example above, I don't necessarily care how many gallons I'm going to consume, but I can easily say my cars tank can get me 380 miles, so to be safe I should be stopping and getting gas every 300, which means I'll stop twice on a 600 mile trip.

It's not like the math is terribly hard to estimate safely no matter which way you present the data. Now you want to know what's truly useless figure? My car has the usual gas gauge and range calculator thingie, but it also has a special mode in which you can view the all important super secret and much sought after "gallons/hour" calculation. Um... What? How the **** does that help me?

Short answer: It doesn't.
____________________________
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#20 Sep 10 2013 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
Lunatic
******
29,250 posts
Ok. But if you have a 10 gallon tank, listing it as MPG allows you to know how far you can go between gas stations. Which is important

Not really. In the actual world, no one gives a fuck about your imaginary family that frequently makes 600 mile trips and would be mystified by measuring efficiency in gallons/10k miles, because we assume, they can't multiply by .06, and, magically somehow, they only journey places where the **** gas gauge would confound them with it's analog self and cause them to miss the "last gas for 400 miles" station Needles or El Cajon or wherever it is these idiots are going.

MPG is a terrible measure of fuel efficiency once vehicles become reasonably efficient. As they become very efficient it becomes even less useful. I don't think it was intentionally designed that way, I think the US just has **** poorly thought out measurements in many areas and is resistant to change. Hence the idea that 34mpg is much worse than 40mpg when it's a marginal difference, and the idea that 12mpg is basically the same as 18 mpg when it's a huge difference. I don't really have an opinion on the "how my car does compared to the MPG rating" thing. I don't really pay attention. I assume our primary car (a 2010 Corolla) comes in around 30 for our mix of occasionally long highway trips and random 1 mile drives to the grocery store or soccer practice. Neither of us commutes via car, and we don't drive much, so it's really not that much of a concern.
____________________________
Disclaimer:

To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a whore. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#21 Sep 11 2013 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
******
43,432 posts
Smasharoo wrote:
random 1 mile drives to the grocery store
That must suck.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#22 Sep 11 2013 at 9:12 AM Rating: Good
Soulless Internet Tiger
******
34,677 posts
Mine never match but then again, I don't drive the posted speed limits on highways and while not a true jackrabbit driver, I am aggressive in the city.
____________________________
Donate. One day it could be your family.
Need a hotel at a great rate? More hotels being added weekly.

An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo

#23 Sep 11 2013 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
Lunatic
******
29,250 posts
That must suck

It's terrible. We do walk sometimes to break up the horror.
____________________________
Disclaimer:

To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a whore. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#24 Sep 11 2013 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
15,670 posts
Grocery stores with their over-offerings, carts, dronelike peeps, parking lots, kids, and other unpleasant what-nots are a horror regardless of how you get there.




Edited, Sep 11th 2013 5:27pm by Elinda
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#25 Sep 11 2013 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Smash does all his shopping from the organic farmer's markets and hippie communes.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#26 Sep 11 2013 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
******
43,432 posts
Are those more or less likely to have drone strikes?
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#27 Sep 11 2013 at 9:45 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
******
27,004 posts
Smasharoo wrote:
That must suck

It's terrible. We do walk sometimes to break up the horror.
You should cycle instead, way cooler.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#28 Sep 11 2013 at 9:46 AM Rating: Excellent
I always just assumed smash demanded the universe put food on his table and that it just appeared. This is quite a shock.
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#29 Sep 11 2013 at 10:19 AM Rating: Good
Lunatic
******
29,250 posts
Smash does all his shopping from the organic farmer's markets and hippie communes.

We live in the kind of town that has a "Farmer's Market" once a week at the town historical society with vendors selling produce that looks suspiciously like it came from the Whole Foods down the street with prices along the lines of $7 a pound for "heirloom" cucumbers. We have a garden, though, so I do a lot of my shopping via telling Hannah to go outside and get tomatoes or whatever.
____________________________
Disclaimer:

To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a whore. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#30 Sep 11 2013 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
15,670 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
I always just assumed smash demanded the universe put food on his table and that it just appeared. This is quite a shock.

Smash wrote:
We have a garden, though, so I do a lot of my shopping via telling Hannah to go outside and get tomatoes or whatever.
Kinda the same thing.


____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#31 Sep 11 2013 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
You should cycle instead, way cooler.

Needs to be those low profile recumbent bicycles.

I live in a place where there's actually a lot of farms so I just stop at one of the ten farmhouses selling produce out of their front yards on the way home. I suppose it might all be a ruse and they're actually selling me Whole Foods produce for half the Whole Foods price.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#32 Sep 11 2013 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
http://www.kinetics.org.uk/assets/images/scorpion_trike_race_schwarz_rechts.jpg

Edited, Sep 11th 2013 1:19pm by Xsarus
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#33 Sep 11 2013 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
******
27,004 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
If you're going for fancy high speed lie down bikes, post something like this:
Screenshot
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#34 Sep 11 2013 at 2:12 PM Rating: Excellent
meh, I like a breeze. I don't own a recumbant though, this is my current bike.

Screenshot
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#35 Sep 11 2013 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
******
27,004 posts
Nice bike.

And while I like a breeze, those closed bicycles are really fast and it rains quite a lot here.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#36 Sep 11 2013 at 3:37 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
11,189 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
meh, I like a breeze. I don't own a recumbant though, this is my current bike.

Screenshot


So it comes with it's own wooden sail? Fancy.
____________________________
Shaowstrike (Retired - FFXI)
91PUP/BLM 86SMN/BST 76DRK
Cooking/Fishing 100


"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
— James D. Nicoll
#37 Sep 11 2013 at 3:39 PM Rating: Excellent
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Nice bike.

And while I like a breeze, those closed bicycles are really fast and it rains quite a lot here.

It @#%^ing does, I hated that. Not seeing the sun all winter sucked.

I built the bike myself, it was a lot of fun.

Edited, Sep 11th 2013 4:40pm by Xsarus
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#38 Sep 11 2013 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
******
27,004 posts
I even live in the rainiest part of the country. 1100ml of rain/snow a year... It's no Irish highlands but still, it's wet.

And man I want a nice road bike again, I only have a mountainbike at the moment and I'd love to ride around on a nice road bike, the closer to a time trial bike the better.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#39 Sep 11 2013 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
Encyclopedia
******
31,475 posts
Smasharoo wrote:
Ok. But if you have a 10 gallon tank, listing it as MPG allows you to know how far you can go between gas stations. Which is important

Not really. In the actual world, no one gives a fuck about your imaginary family that frequently makes 600 mile trips and would be mystified by measuring efficiency in gallons/10k miles, because we assume, they can't multiply by .06...


That was the scenario I was responding to though.

It's the same thing either way. The difference is that one is focusing on consumption (how much fuel used over a given distance), while the other is focusing on range (how far you can go with a given amount of fuel). It's not like people can't noodle out the math either direction, but in terms of usability, consumption is more useful when making your initial purchasing decision (which you kinda just do once). Range is more useful when actually operating the vehicle (which you do all the time).


Quote:
MPG is a terrible measure of fuel efficiency once vehicles become reasonably efficient. As they become very efficient it becomes even less useful. I don't think it was intentionally designed that way, I think the US just has sh*tty, poorly thought out measurements in many areas and is resistant to change. Hence the idea that 34mpg is much worse than 40mpg when it's a marginal difference, and the idea that 12mpg is basically the same as 18 mpg when it's a huge difference.


I'm not really seeing how if we measured that as 2.5G/100M versus 2.94G/100M or 5.55G/100M versus 8.33G/100M it would help anything. People can either grasp ratios or they can't. And I'd honestly argue that it's easier for people to do ratios with bigger/whole numbers in their heads. As fuel efficiency increases, the fuel use per X miles gets smaller, making it appear as though the gains are smaller. One can also argue that from a marketing point of view "bigger is better" ties in better with using mpg rather than g/100m, so there's that too.


I suppose it's more a matter of what you're used to, but from an objective point of view, I don't see how one measurement inherently much better than the other, but for the reasons above, I'd tend to give it to the range view rather than consumption view.
____________________________
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#40 Sep 11 2013 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
I also have this bike, but the wheels aren't as nice as in the picture. It's also a little too small for me, which is why I built the new one.

http://veederline.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1998-Eyre-Tri.jpg

Edited, Sep 11th 2013 5:24pm by Xsarus
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#41 Sep 11 2013 at 4:25 PM Rating: Excellent
The fundamental problem Gbaji is that you're using **** backwards gallons and miles to begin with.
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#42 Sep 11 2013 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
Encyclopedia
******
31,475 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
The fundamental problem Gbaji is that you're using **** backwards gallons and miles to begin with.


The units used doesn't affect which view of the data is useful in what situation though.
____________________________
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
#43 Sep 11 2013 at 6:34 PM Rating: Excellent
oh sure, I'm just making fun of your measurement system.

I think L/100km or the equivalent is better, but don't particularly care.
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#44 Sep 11 2013 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
Unforkgettable
*****
13,206 posts
I'm actually looking for a bicycle to commute to work with. I probably won't be buying until the winter when they go on sale around here. There are some decent-looking Trek bikes at a local shop. I think I'd like a hybrid, instead of a straight road bike, considering the road conditions around here. Trying to keep it under $550.
____________________________
Banh
#45 Sep 11 2013 at 10:00 PM Rating: Good
Tracer Bullet
*****
12,563 posts

Gbaji lives in a different universe from the rest of us. I wonder who else lives there with him. And I don't think it's necessarily just crazy right-wingers, there's probably some general weirdos like Emo Philips or Bobby Fischer or Prince.
____________________________
Na Zdrowie
#46 Sep 11 2013 at 10:02 PM Rating: Excellent
Spoonless wrote:
I'm actually looking for a bicycle to commute to work with. I probably won't be buying until the winter when they go on sale around here. There are some decent-looking Trek bikes at a local shop. I think I'd like a hybrid, instead of a straight road bike, considering the road conditions around here. Trying to keep it under $550.

Unless you have lots and lots of hills, I'd recommend going with a single speed. It's going to be way less maintenance, and is much nicer for biking around in different weather conditions. I haven't looked back. I think my ratio is 46-16, it's really nice.

Different bike than pictured above obviously, that's not a commuting bike.

Edited, Sep 11th 2013 11:02pm by Xsarus
#47 Sep 11 2013 at 10:10 PM Rating: Excellent
I'd get a used road bike with two important features

1) space for bigger tires if needed
2) an angled attachment for the rear wheel so you can convert it to single speed.

Make sure the frame is in decent shape, then get new wheels, crank, free wheel, and brakes.

It will be a great ride, but will look older and hopefully less steal-able.

Edited, Sep 11th 2013 11:11pm by Xsarus
____________________________
01001001 00100000 01001100 01001001 01001011 01000101 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001011 01000101
You'll always be stupid, you'll just be stupid with more information in your brain
Forum FAQ
#48 Sep 12 2013 at 4:47 AM Rating: Decent
Lunatic
******
29,250 posts
It's the same thing either way.

The numerical expression of the same ratio is the same? Thanks for the insight, moron. What isn't the same is the non linear relationship between comparisons using the two ratios. The point of MPG, aside from economy standards is to allow comparison for consumers. The non-linear progression of, say, a 15 MPG difference between vehicles completely undermines that. If American consumers could use math, we'd be using the metric system, so I'm not going to bother going down that road. I mean some of these idiots still pay for paper checks and use them for small transactions.
____________________________
Disclaimer:

To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a whore. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#49 Sep 12 2013 at 5:22 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
******
27,004 posts
Sir Xsarus wrote:
I also have this bike, but the wheels aren't as nice as in the picture. It's also a little too small for me, which is why I built the new one.

http://veederline.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1998-Eyre-Tri.jpg

Edited, Sep 11th 2013 5:24pm by Xsarus
You don't really want those wheels anyway if there's a risk of sidewind as they'll just function as sails. Still, time trial bikes look awesome and I'd love to ride one.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#50 Sep 12 2013 at 5:55 AM Rating: Good
Ministry of Silly Cnuts
*****
19,492 posts
Since I retired I usually travel by motorbike, but do have a 3 year old Ford Focus that's averaging 38mpg (UK gallons). The wife has a Ford KA diesel getting 62mpg.

The larger bike (Honda NT700) gives me 53mpg, but for general bimbling around I have a 125cc bike that averages 120mpg.

As for the manufacturers figures, they've always been recognised here in the UK to be artificial.
____________________________
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
#51 Sep 12 2013 at 6:17 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
15,670 posts
Bimbling around on bikes could only be a britty thing.
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
« Previous 1 2 3
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 47 All times are in CDT
Bijou, ElneClare, Kuwoobie, Technogeek, Xsarus, Anonymous Guests (42)