Places in the Chicago area are usually accessible without taking tollways.
Google Maps tells me that Joliet (southwest suburbs) to Winnetka (North suburb) would take 60 miles/1hr 10min without tolls or 55 miles/1hr 6 min with tolls. Although you might find more discrepancy during mid day or on a weekend than morning rush hour on a weekday.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Here in the land of sunshine and unicorns, we have these things called freeways that don't cost any money to drive on and get you where you want to go quickly and directly.
I know. In the land of snow and 10k lakes we had no pay roads. We only traveled west from the twin cities, because traveling east (beyond central WI) just led to mobsters, stinky air, and toll roads.
Alma wrote:
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lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Certainly nothing like "OMG! If you don't pay the toll, you have to spend hours driving around!!!".
*Paid for by our outrageous gas taxes.
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It's not a minor inconvenience to avoid toll roads in NJ
It is, however, a very minor one to avoid NJ.
It is, however, a very minor one to avoid NJ.
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Smasharoo wrote:
It's not a minor inconvenience to avoid toll roads in NJ
It is, however, a very minor one to avoid NJ.
It is, however, a very minor one to avoid NJ.
That's how I feel about Delaware.
Or, as I like to call it, the nation's largest traffic jam.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
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That's how I feel about Delaware.
Nexa is fairly well convinced that Delaware is pretend State with cardboard building fronts and mail drops for banks and insurance companies to avoid taxes. I mean, really, what's the other option, that it's a state full of people who elected Biden to the Senate like 40 times? Come now.
Nexa is fairly well convinced that Delaware is pretend State with cardboard building fronts and mail drops for banks and insurance companies to avoid taxes. I mean, really, what's the other option, that it's a state full of people who elected Biden to the Senate like 40 times? Come now.
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gbaji wrote:
I can only think of one actual highway that is entirely toll to travel in San Diego county (the south section of 125).
gbaji wrote:
There's one tollway. It's a new section of highway that goes to a newish development (Eastlake) in the south part of the county. The folks who live there can pay for their highway with the tolls. And if they don't want to? There's a parallel interstate highway about 10 miles west of it that they can take. And frankly, from most directions it's not a significantly longer drive. It's only a real time saver if you're basically traveling from the north east or east part of the county to the south east part. If you're anywhere central/west of the main N/S interstate(s), you're basically given a rectangular choice of routes. If you go east then south, you pay money. If you go south and then east, you don't. I suppose during some time periods there could be some traffic issues (cause there is this whole international border thing that the interstate runs smack into), but that's about it.
Smasharoo wrote:
Here in the land of sunshine and unicorns, we have these things called freeways that don't cost any money to drive on and get you where you want to go quickly
Right, like the 125. Oh wait.
Right, like the 125. Oh wait.
Um... That's what I was talking about. It's an utterly avoidable tollway that doesn't save much time unless you actually live in or are traveling to the area it runs through *and* are coming from or going to somewhere else that's in the eastern part of the county. Given that the major population areas are in the western part of the county, and there is a major interstate and interstate loop that run N/S that are both west of the 125, it's not a highway that 99% of the folks living here ever have to even consider using.
Edited, Sep 6th 2013 2:00pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Smasharoo wrote:
That's how I feel about Delaware.
Nexa is fairly well convinced that Delaware is pretend State with cardboard building fronts and mail drops for banks and insurance companies to avoid taxes. I mean, really, what's the other option, that it's a state full of people who elected Biden to the Senate like 40 times? Come now.
Nexa is fairly well convinced that Delaware is pretend State with cardboard building fronts and mail drops for banks and insurance companies to avoid taxes. I mean, really, what's the other option, that it's a state full of people who elected Biden to the Senate like 40 times? Come now.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
As someone with a degree in Security and Intel, I'm torn on the airport security aspect. On the one hand it provides jobs, but on the other hand it really is completely, 100% pointless, because you will never manage to stop that one crazy zealot from getting through if they are willing to die for it. We would be much better off financially and as a society if we just took a "well, sh*t happens" approach to alot of this and just went with the standard security precautions that the rest of the planet gets along just fine with.
I have to imagine that a true risk assessment and analysis would not lead to such high costs in airport security.
From this end of the Iraq War, I'd beg to differ.
Yeah that's the nice thing about risk assessments, they're based on data and not on points of view.
Alma wrote:
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Smasharoo wrote:
Nexa is fairly well convinced that Delaware is pretend State with cardboard building fronts and mail drops for banks and insurance companies to avoid taxes.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Nexa is fairly well convinced that Delaware is pretend State with cardboard building fronts and mail drops for banks and insurance companies to avoid taxes.
Technically Maine was chopped off from Mass as part of the Louisiana Purchase keep the numbers balanced - equal number slave states with free states.
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