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#1 Aug 12 2013 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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Let's pretend your minding your own business, waiting for public transportation to arrive, when the unthinkable happens: You notice someone jacking (or in this case "jilling") off. You have a cell phone that records video. WHAT DO YOU DO!?!!?

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Film it. :1 (6.2%)
Film it & put it on the internet. :9 (56.2%)
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I'm with Louis C.K. on this one:
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"I'm not a good guy... I mean, I don't hurt any body, but I don't help either. Like, this is sort of the level; If I see a woman in a skirt, I'm not gonna look up her skirt, but if she gets sloppy, I'm there. That's where I'm at. "
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#2 Aug 12 2013 at 8:48 PM Rating: Good
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Did the woman get in trouble for ************ in view of the public? Pretty sure a man got in trouble for ************ in his living room when a neighbor saw him.
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#3 Aug 12 2013 at 8:53 PM Rating: Default
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Linky.

Let's pretend your minding your own business, waiting for public transportation to arrive, when the unthinkable happens: You notice someone jacking (or in this case "jilling") off. You have a cell phone that records video. WHAT DO YOU DO!?!!?

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I'm with Louis C.K. on this one:
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"I'm not a good guy... I mean, I don't hurt any body, but I don't help either. Like, this is sort of the level; If I see a woman in a skirt, I'm not gonna look up her skirt, but if she gets sloppy, I'm there. That's where I'm at. "


That depends on how attractive she is.
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That depends on how attractive she is.


I remember shortly after I graduated from college, reading about a [link=http://www.michigandaily.com/content/***************************************** who entered a frat house and proceeded to ********** on their couch.[/link]
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That depends on how attractive she is.


I remember shortly after I graduated from college, reading about a [link=http://www.michigandaily.com/content/***************************************** who entered a frat house and proceeded to ********** on their couch.[/link]

Is that really all that unusual?
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TirithRR wrote:
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That depends on how attractive she is.


I remember shortly after I graduated from college, reading about a [link=http://www.michigandaily.com/content/***************************************** who entered a frat house and proceeded to ********** on their couch.[/link]


Reminds me of all of those semi-attractive to attractive female teachers who slept with their students.. When did this movement start?!?!
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That depends on how attractive she is.


I remember shortly after I graduated from college, reading about a [link=http://www.michigandaily.com/content/***************************************** who entered a frat house and proceeded to ********** on their couch.[/link]

Is that really all that unusual?

It was when it wasn't happening during a frat party.
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Did the woman get in trouble for ************ in view of the public? Pretty sure a man got in trouble for ************ in his living room when a neighbor saw him.


I was gonna read the whole story, but didn't have any loonies to pay for it
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Geez that was a close one for someone. I thought this was another one of the persistant thread spammer threads and almost sent it to ****. Cuban missile crisis type **** here. Of course there is technically an undo button (sort of if you ignore that whole karma thing), but it;s more fun to make like it was almost game over for some unlucky topic poster before the last minute save!
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I don't know exactly how privacy laws work 'round there, but I'm assuming they're at least vaguely similar to here. And filming someone inside of their house without their consent, regardless of what they are doing, is a breach of privacy.

So it's just really stupid to film someone inside their own home, you're opening yourself to a potentially very expensive lawsuit.
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I don't know exactly how privacy laws work 'round there, but I'm assuming they're at least vaguely similar to here. And filming someone inside of their house without their consent, regardless of what they are doing, is a breach of privacy.

So it's just really stupid to film someone inside their own home, you're opening yourself to a potentially very expensive lawsuit.


At first glance, it might sound crazy, but then again, recording yourself getting it on with someone without their knowledge can RUIN someone's reputation. I'm all for the law. In public areas, not so much.
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I get a funny feeling that had the genders been reversed the actions taken against the involved individuals would have been very different - which is sad.

Though maybe I'm wrong. Maybe some guy jacking off in his apt in front of a window would be viewed as a victim when his actions were unknowingly recorded. But I doubt it.

I don't have a recording device tethered to me so I'd not have recorded it. But I might have watched. Smiley: blush
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Did the woman get in trouble for ************ in view of the public? Pretty sure a man got in trouble for ************ in his living room when a neighbor saw him.


I was gonna read the whole story, but didn't have any loonies to pay for it


From the forum copy/pastes I read about it, a woman saw a man in his house ************* She thought he was ************ while watching her children outside. She called the authorities and the man got charged with public indecency or something along those lines.

Now, when I was on the jury of a trial of man accused of exposing himself to women on a public beach, I'm pretty sure they said that (at least here in Michigan) the laws don't really care where you are exposing yourself, just that you do so in a way that is obviously or likely to be seen by the public. So if you were in a room completely nude, but the windows or door were open or uncovered, and people outside could see you, it'd be a violation.

But then again, it's not against the law to take pictures or record people in public areas, cause there is no expectation of privacy or something like that (isn't that how the Girls Gone Wild guy got away with it?) So if being exposed in a 'private' setting that is publicly visible is enough for an indecency charge, why would being in a 'private' area that is publicly visible not fall under the same lack of expectation of privacy?

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Oh, when I was a junior in college my dormitory overlooked the freshman girls' dormitory. That was a fun year. You'd be surprised how much stuff people do with their windows wide open... I never recorded any of it though.

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#14 Aug 13 2013 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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WHAT DO YOU DO!?!!?
Ignore it and go back to reading my newspaper like I do every other day?
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WHAT DO YOU DO!?!!?
Ignore it and go back to reading my newspaper like I do every other day?
Where do you live that women are ************ in public every other day?
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#16 Aug 13 2013 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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The question posed in the OP was gender neutral.

Once or twice on the R.
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Once or twice on the R.


No idea what this means.
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Once or twice on the R.


No idea what this means.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_%28New_York_City_Subway_service%29
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The question posed in the OP was gender neutral.

Once or twice on the R.

Are you implying that the majority of NY Subway ************ are men?

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Everything belongs on the internet somewhere. I see no reason this shouldn't be exempt.

If it was me I'd just yell at her to close her window.
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Ignore it and go back to reading my newspaper like I do every other day?


Reading a newspaper? You're getting old, man.
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Reading a newspaper? You're getting old, man.
Maybe he was using the old term to describe checking the news on his phone newspaper app?
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Never underestimate the number of uses for a newspaper in NYC.
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Like laying it across your lap to hide your ******* as you watch the woman go at it.
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Or sleeping under one when you can no longer afford the rent.
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Or holding it upright as you read so you don't actually have to see the people around you.
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It would depend on where/how he viewed her. IMO, if she's ************ in full public view, windows open and visible to an easily accessible public space, then she's at fault, not him. However, if he had to intentionally go to somewhere unusual where he could peer into her window, then that's a completely different story. It's the difference between looking through someone's window and watching them while you're standing on the sidewalk, and climbing up a tree in order to have a view into said window.

It says he was on a platform, but was this just in a normal area, or did he have to climb somewhere to have a view into her home? The linked page isn't super clear on that.
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It says he was on a platform, but was this just in a normal area, or did he have to climb somewhere to have a view into her home? The linked page isn't super clear on that.


Given the nature of the media, I think had the story been "Man climbs to top of light post to film woman ****************** or "Man climbs on top of ticket booth to film woman ****************** they would have gone that route for the shock of it.

Now, the question in my mind. What's this gal look like?
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Given the nature of the media, I think had the story been "Man climbs to top of light post to film woman ****************** or "Man climbs on top of ticket booth to film woman ****************** they would have gone that route for the shock of it.


Depends on what angle they want to cover. The link in the OP appeared to be more opinion than news, so it would not surprise me for certain details to be left out. However, this is an actual news story on the event, and from that (and the picture) it appears as though he likely didn't have to go out of his way to see into the window in question.

I'd ask if people are really so stupid as to not realize that their window opens directly (like 10 feet away) to a high traffic area, but I once lived in a housing complex with lots of young college kids. You'd be amazed how many people really don't seem to grasp that windows are transparent in both directions.
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I'd ask if people are really so stupid as to not realize that their window opens directly (like 10 feet away) to a high traffic area, but I once lived in a housing complex with lots of young college kids. You'd be amazed how many people really don't seem to grasp that windows are transparent in both directions.


Ya, I mentioned earlier in the thread my experiences during my junior year of college where my dormitory was overlooking the freshman girls' dorms. Smiley: sly
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