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#1 Aug 05 2013 at 5:01 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/dea-surveillance-cover-up_n_3706207.html">DEA apparently is getting help from the intelligence community and then lies about it</a>

It is not exactly surprising, but I am kinda hoping people will get mildly annoyed when they realize that all the data around will, eventually at this rate, be accessible to IRS, dog pound, local police, mpaa, riaa, and every single bureaucrat that wants to see what you were up to. Ain't that nice? Ain't it convenient?:>

Just think of the time savings.

I would be kinda for it, that kind of forced transparency, if I was naive enough to think that the nice and friendly bankers ( and their protectors in all administrations thus far ), high level government officials and so on would be affected as well.

I am naive enough to think that people will get pissed off.
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#2 Aug 05 2013 at 5:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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#3angrymnk, Posted: Aug 05 2013 at 5:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ^^;
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That's a pretty terrible OP. Next time you shouldn't minimize your own argument and make it sound ridiculous in your topic starter.
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#5 Aug 05 2013 at 5:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I thought sounding ridiculous was the standard approach here.

Additionally, it is not that far fetched.
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I thought sounding ridiculous was the standard approach here.

Well, this is the direction your thread is heading so now you know.
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#7angrymnk, Posted: Aug 05 2013 at 5:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't mind the direction as long the journey is fun, mostly.
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I am naive enough to think that people will get pissed off.
Apparently.

I've generally assumed this would be the least of what they're doing with it. Hence my special hat. Smiley: tinfoilhat
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#9angrymnk, Posted: Aug 05 2013 at 7:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pfftt...tinfoil hats are so pre-nineeleven. These days we use... oh, I see what you did there. Nice try.
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Pfftt...tinfoil hats are so pre-nineeleven.
Well I'd make a big deal about my tinfoil underwear, but you know, can't give away too much information via interwebs. You never know who's watching. Smiley: wink
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We're watching.

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#12angrymnk, Posted: Aug 07 2013 at 5:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) My mommy did always say that you always have to wear clear underwear ( tinfoil or not ) just in case car runs me over.
#13 Aug 07 2013 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good
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My mommy did always say that you always have to wear clear underwear ( tinfoil or not ) just in case car runs me over.

What did she know that I did not?


That you liked to play in traffic. Go on, relive your childhood right now!
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I don't mind the direction as long the journey is fun, mostly.

Still feelin' this way? 'Cause this journey is... well, not likely to be AAA rated.
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#15angrymnk, Posted: Aug 08 2013 at 6:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Meh, my feelings have little to do with anything.
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It would bother me more, but then again I do not have cat urine sniffing habit that could be used against me. So I suppose I have nothing to fear. Right?
Has someone's private cat urine sniffing habit been used against them by the scary humanity-hating government?

I missed the story.
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panopticon.
It's not nice to make people google words before coffee. Smiley: glare

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I can kind of see some level of grumbling approval for wohr on drugs, but, I dunno, how a constantly increased surveillance, and the increasing ability to create personal profile of nearly every person with queried abilities, needs, fetishes and habits, is not something that is discussed.
As a whole we seem to be willing to begrudgingly put up with it because we're afraid of being blown up. If this works out we can fund the war on terror by selling our databases to advertisers. Smiley: wink
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#18angrymnk, Posted: Aug 08 2013 at 5:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) In my defense, prison planet is already taken and I didn't wanna get sued over that. As for the selling, that ship has probably sailed a good while ago. The funding part is quite novel however.
#19angrymnk, Posted: Aug 08 2013 at 5:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not yet little one, not yet. I am applying slippery slope argument ( admitedly, with a heavy dose of reductio ad absurdum ).
#20 Aug 12 2013 at 6:06 AM Rating: Good
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It's fairly common knowledge that this was the case, It's trolling, but it isn't altogether inaccurate.

It's highly unlikely that this information would be made available to every bureaucrat downstream, because that's akin to making it public, and the information is more powerful when it's not.

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It's not nice to make people google words before coffee.

It's basic latin, pan -all / optic- sight, a place where you can see everything. (Now the rest of you don't have to Google!)

[It's a farce of course, being oversold the same way to the domestic side of the house as the MIC variant, Gorgon Stare (and SAT field mapping, or whatever the new acronym is) or it's cruder drug war brother, SIVAM, but I digress...]

And yes, this system can be used by persons wishing to gather sensitive data. And it will be used for personal and political reasons, just like J,Edgar Hoover's FBI, it's spiritual predecessor. Fortunately, the program sucks at data dissemination throughput, so it probably won't be spying on you, specifically.
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I still keep my red hard-bound Webster's II RL book on my desk. I looked it up. Wouldn't want some tracking program to see me searching the interwebs for information about spying.

Our privacy lies in obscurity. Angry guy you're personal digital information is flowing right through the virtual sieve that big brother uses to snag terrirists, evil drs, gun-smugglers. take comfort in the fact that you're just not interesting or important enough to be 'tracked'.

Marketers however are much more sweepingly panoptic. They'll happily access your information (without your permission or knowledge), make you feel special, analyze your intents and 'guide' you into actions that you might not have otherwise taken. The government could only fantasize over such effective means of molding the masses.
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Fortunately, the program sucks at data dissemination throughput, so it probably won't be spying on you, specifically.
That's what Facebook is for.
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The government could only fantasize over such effective means of molding the masses.
Well if they want to control the masses maybe they should invent their own discount sugary breakfast cereal.
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Elinda wrote:
The government could only fantasize over such effective means of molding the masses.
Well if they want to control the masses maybe they should invent their own discount sugary breakfast cereal.
BamaBits.
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Elinda wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
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The government could only fantasize over such effective means of molding the masses.
Well if they want to control the masses maybe they should invent their own discount sugary breakfast cereal.
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Well if they want to control the masses maybe they should invent their own discount sugary breakfast cereal.
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There's already government cheese. It's just so poorly marketed.
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Our privacy lies in obscurity. Angry guy you're personal digital information is flowing right through the virtual sieve that big brother uses to snag terrirists, evil drs, gun-smugglers. take comfort in the fact that you're just not interesting or important enough to be 'tracked'.


Yeah, unless you're Japanese or a commie you'll be fine.
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To be fair, we did a terrible job of tracking Commies. Which is why we had to lie about them and brow-beat people into "admitting" to communist sympathies. Had we been able to actually locate some real commies, we'd have been golden.
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#30angrymnk, Posted: Aug 12 2013 at 5:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Interesting. You are wrong, but you do not realize it yet so I suppose you can be forgiven. Allow me to enlighten you a tiny little bit.
#31 Aug 12 2013 at 7:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Rebuttal?

Alright, but this is the last one.
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Secundo, naive assumption that "think of the children" method will not apply to anything but trrists, guns smuglers and evil pplz is just that, naive. The entirety of human existence thus far proved that power will do what it can to obtain more power. If you take comfort in knowing that you are not tracked because you are not interesting enough, then you obviously never met a really nosy person. It does not take much. And if you think it won't be abused by the people with access, take comfort knowing that there are people as smart as Snowden who simply chose not to cash in their chips yet.
It would be surprising, no, it would be unbelievable to think that some innocent people wouldn't get mistakenly 'caught' through this particular surveillance program. Probably even innocent Americans. Still, there is little to NO real evidence of abuse of power. Only paranoia borne from ignorance.

Secundo, I don't think many would agree with you that Snowden was at all smart with his little slice of Secret pie.



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To be fair, we did a terrible job of tracking Commies.
We can't all be Ralph Kane.
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Secundo, I don't think many would agree with you that Snowden was at all smart with his little slice of Secret pie.
Seriously, guy should have run away someplace better. What's with this Hong Kong to Russia business? Sounds like it was pretty poorly planned. It's going to be cold there soon and he'll be wishing he'd started by going to Ecuador or something.
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It sounded at the time like he thought he was going to wind up in Iceland with his WikiLeaks buddies. Which would be cold but a higher standard of living than some government flat in Russia.
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I bet he stayed for the borscht.
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#37angrymnk, Posted: Aug 13 2013 at 4:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Since I apparently do not possess the space brain necessary to properly interpret the image ( and can't link my own non sequitur ), I can respond with a simple: "Huh?"
#38angrymnk, Posted: Aug 13 2013 at 4:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ahh, I see. I was clearly mistaken. It is not that you are naive, stupid; or even that you can't read, or comprehend. You are complacent. That's cool. I know apathy is all the rage these days. That and cynicism, but I digress.
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I know apathy is all the rage these days.

I was going to strive for apathy, but I decided I just didn't care enough.


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That and cynicism...

Also, if I did achieve apathy, I am sure that the man would just use it against me!


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Yeah, but Heller never had hit singles so he doesn't count.
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#44 Aug 14 2013 at 10:59 AM Rating: Excellent
Is the nodding smily way faster than normal?
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Is the nodding smily way faster than normal?
Smiley: nod

Actually I have no idea. Smiley: rolleyes


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Is the nodding smily way faster than normal?
I think it just looks fast next to your avatar.
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I had thought of that.
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I thought we was cool. Why you want me to die, homie?

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