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#27 Aug 01 2013 at 6:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Without getting into a long drawn out examination of why, this will absolutely set them back a bit.

I'll just assume that's true but, again, it's San Diego. Obviously it'd be nice to have whatever elected seats in Democratic hands (all things being equal) but ultimately it matters to people in the immediate area and no one else. A brief look shows that Democrats won the Congressional seat there by over 20 points so the only national aspect of it isn't anything to worry about. Who gets to be mayor, no one cares about except the people who live there.
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#28 Aug 01 2013 at 6:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Prior to that, he served in the US House of Representatives (for 20 years).
Did he grab Pelosi's boobs?
Was she a *****?

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They're taking the suspicion many have in this mostly conservative town that Democrats care about power more than anything else and turning it into demonstrable fact. So, good going guys!

It's cute that you think this is an "Democratic" issue.

Did I say "cute"? I meant "child-like".

ALSO: "delusional".
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But he's got such an honest face.
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He broke the EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW-o-meter!

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#30 Aug 01 2013 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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Debalic wrote:
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But he's got such an honest face.
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#31 Aug 01 2013 at 8:18 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Without getting into a long drawn out examination of why, this will absolutely set them back a bit.

I'll just assume that's true but, again, it's San Diego. Obviously it'd be nice to have whatever elected seats in Democratic hands (all things being equal) but ultimately it matters to people in the immediate area and no one else.


Which is precisely what I was talking about.


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A brief look shows that Democrats won the Congressional seat there by over 20 points so the only national aspect of it isn't anything to worry about. Who gets to be mayor, no one cares about except the people who live there.


Seat? There are 5 US districts with overlap over San Diego County. CA 49, 50, 51, 52, and 53. Currently 2 of those 5 are Republican, and 3 are Democrat. They redistricted in 2010 to basically push the 52nd into Dem hands in 2012, and even then just barely. Also, San Diego elected a Democrat to mayor for the first time in 20 years. So yeah, there was a trend in that direction, and this will affect that trend.
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#32 Aug 01 2013 at 8:39 PM Rating: Default
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Friar Bijou wrote:
gbaji wrote:
They're taking the suspicion many have in this mostly conservative town that Democrats care about power more than anything else and turning it into demonstrable fact. So, good going guys!

It's cute that you think this is an "Democratic" issue.


It's about the perception of how elected officials from each party respond to scandals like this. Both parties have scandals, but it recently it seems like the Dems have become more likely to try to retain their positions despite those scandals (and far more likely that Republicans). Honestly, you almost can't blame them. Democrats get far more of a pass from the media normally (if for no other reason than far fewer people in the media actively look for things to pin on them), so it's natural that they'll tend to think that they can get away with more and more blatant abuses of their power and position.

Just look at this case. It's not like he just started doing this in the last 6 months. We have women coming forward from at least 8 years ago, when he was a US congressman. Why didn't they come forward earlier? In many cases, politics. One of the women (the Dean, IIRC) didn't say anything because she was afraid that her school, which heavily relied on public funding, would suffer if she did. Other women were members of his campaign or regular staff, and presumably jobs and/or elections were on the line.

It's just interesting to me that while both sides occasionally get bad apples, it seems like the ones that end up in the GOP are usually found out pretty quickly and ousted, while it's Democrats who seem to get away with things for long periods of time. I'm just tossing out a theory that the willingness of liberals in general to look the other way in the name of political advantage (the whole "ends justify the means" thing) is a major factor to this, and that this in turn leads those politicians to become increasingly blatant with their behavior until you have what appears to be a clear case of "how the **** did he get away with this for so long?".
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#33 Aug 01 2013 at 9:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Seat? There are 5 US districts with overlap over San Diego County.

My mistake. I only cared enough to make one Google search. For that matter I have no idea if San Diego County shares the same limits of the city proper. Or care about that either, I guess.
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gbaji wrote:
It's just interesting to me that while both sides occasionally get bad apples, it seems like the ones that end up in the GOP are usually found out pretty quickly and ousted, while it's Democrats who seem to get away with things for long periods of time
Being a bad liar doesn't make them more trustworthy.
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#36 Aug 02 2013 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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It's just interesting to me that while both sides occasionally get bad apples, it seems like the ones that end up in the GOP are usually found out pretty quickly and ousted, while it's Democrats who seem to get away with things for long periods of time. I'm just tossing out a theory that the willingness of liberals in general to look the other way in the name of political advantage (the whole "ends justify the means" thing) is a major factor to this, and that this in turn leads those politicians to become increasingly blatant with their behavior until you have what appears to be a clear case of "how the **** did he get away with this for so long?".

That's cuz Republican scandals often times involve acting on the unforgivable ***-lustiness. Can God just look away?

As usual your opinion is quite obviously slanted and completely oblivious of ,and contrary to, reality in general.
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Accidentally posted this in the wrong thread.

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#38 Aug 02 2013 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
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He's an early stage of whatever process it is that creates Cenobites.
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#39 Aug 02 2013 at 7:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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He's an early stage of whatever process it is that creates Cenobites.
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#40 Aug 02 2013 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
To make matters worse, a pro-Filner group jumped right into the recall process early, so as to make it nearly impossible to get the number of signatures required to have a recall election by the deadline.

The city attorney issued an opinion that there can be multiple recall petition efforts happening simultaneously. So this doesn't seem as though it'll be an issue.

gbaji wrote:
It's just interesting to me that while both sides occasionally get bad apples, it seems like the ones that end up in the GOP are usually found out pretty quickly and ousted, while it's Democrats who seem to get away with things for long periods of time.

Confirmation bias. Republican governor George Ryan was being indicted by the feds and the Republican establishment defended him (and certainly didn't attempt to oust him) and the Republicans got squashed next cycle by Blagojevich. Blagojevich got indicted, the Democrats tried to kick him out ASAP (even petitioning the attorney General to declare him incapacitated for mental issues) and we still have Quinn (D) as governor. I think the party response matters more than the individual failings and from what little I've seen from San Diego, this joker has no allies left in the local government.
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#41 Aug 02 2013 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I've seen arrogant politicians, but this guy really takes the cake. And I've seen strident partisan groups, but the folks standing by and supporting him are so clearly putting politics ahead of morality it's almost nauseating. The good news is that this will put a black eye on the Democratic party around here for a good long time to come

Probably not. People associate these kinds of failing with individuals not political parties, hence the GOP not being limited to the **** boy fucker vote. Obviously he should resign, he's a mayor, not a SCOTUS nominee.

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Funny, that the Democratic party which supports *** rights usually ends up in heterosexual scandals...
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Funny, that the Democratic party which supports *** rights usually ends up in heterosexual scandals...

And that the Republican party, which supports the rights of white men, usually ends up with white man on man scandals.
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Debalic wrote:
Funny, that the Democratic party which supports *** rights usually ends up in heterosexual scandals...
It's always a difficult process when you come out of the closet and admit you're straight. These kinds of things are to be expected.
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Would it be a closet?
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Many times I'd sadly shake my head as some Democrat tried to desperately explain that he couldn't have been at the ***** bar because he spent that night cruising a highway rest stop. Smiley: disappointed
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Would it be a closet?
Wardrobe perhaps?
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Would it be a closet?
Wardrobe perhaps?

Sure if your dirty little secret is that you're a faun.

....r thieves around here.

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Jophiel wrote:
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Seat? There are 5 US districts with overlap over San Diego County.

My mistake. I only cared enough to make one Google search. For that matter I have no idea if San Diego County shares the same limits of the city proper. Or care about that either, I guess.


Not the same limits, but the city basically is every area in the county that isn't its own city. So the downtown area is the city of San Diego, but so are a dozen or so somewhat patchwork (and non-contiguous) areas throughout the county. Just eyeballing the district map, it looks like there are at least parts of the city within all 5 districts. It's not a huge distinction really, given that it's the broad geographical area and those living in it which might form opinions based on a scandal like this.
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Probably not. People associate these kinds of failing with individuals not political parties...


If that were true, no one would worry about things like party "brand", or whether to call themselves liberal or progressive, or any of a dozen factors which political analysts know influence people's opinions because of associative reasoning.
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Yes, but it's not like one scandal is enough to do so. Not unless you're intimately involved with the scandal, at least.

If you have scandals in the numbers where it would be significant enough to seriously influence someone's party affiliations, then it's safe to say there are serious problems with your party's leadership such that people should be worried about affiliating with you.

That goes for both sides. The scandals that have the most impact change relative to the value they put on the issue, but it's largely true.

But it's also true that the scandals need to be significant enough to outweigh the typical jargon. How many anti-*** Republicans have abandoned the party because of a consistently high rate of *** *** scandals? Close to none, because the overall party line on the issue is preferable to the alternatives.
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