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#1 Aug 01 2013 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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A lawyer for embattled San Diego Mayor Bob Filner argues the city should fund his defence as it failed to give him anti-sexual harassment training.


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"This is not an excuse for any inappropriate behavior which may have occurred," the lawyer wrote, "but having conducted sexual harassment training many times over the years, I have learned that many - if not most - people do not know what is and what is not illegal sexual harassment under California law."


What the heck was up with that?
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Really? I'm not sure what to say. As in, do you really want us to believe you had no idea what you were doing was wrong? Or were you seriously interested in pushing things as far as you could, and aren't happy you didn't know where the line in the sand was? And that's somehow the city's fault? Why do something immoral even if it isn't technically illegal?

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Looks like he's fighting this thing a little while longer at least. Politicians... Smiley: oyvey

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But he's got such an honest face.
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#3 Aug 01 2013 at 1:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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He looks so happy too.
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Even if we accepted that the state failed to give him appropriate training for what is appropriate in the workplace, that defense still ends at the limits of "not illegal in general."

Groping someone without their consent is illegal. Last I checked the "I didn't know it was illegal" defense has never been accepted.
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#5 Aug 01 2013 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Makes me wonder though, since he brought this to light, if the women could now sue the city for not providing the training. That might take some of the publicity off of him, and deflect it to the city. Since that's another issue in itself and all.

You know, politics. Smiley: rolleyes
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The real problem there becomes how you could possibly enforce it without making it law. I'm sure there were harassment seminars available, and that he's supposed to go to them via policy, but he's the mayor. It's not like anyone can make him go, or punish him for not going.

Unless they want to pass a law that says a mayor can only take office if they complete anti-harassment training, there's not much you can do there. I'm not opposed to that kind of legislation, but I doubt it's in place right now.
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Do they have photos of the groped women? They may be whores. If I saw some photos, I could make a judgement on how much they deserved it and we could change the focus accordingly.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Unless they want to pass a law that says a mayor can only take office if they complete anti-harassment training, there's not much you can do there. I'm not opposed to that kind of legislation, but I doubt it's in place right now.
I have no idea. I would assume it'd be something on the books like "all public employees must take harassment training or else something, something, bad consequences." I suppose that would mean showing the city was negligent somehow in allowing this all to happen, which may well be a stretch.

Just a thought that leaped to mind.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
The real problem there becomes how you could possibly enforce it without making it law. I'm sure there were harassment seminars available, and that he's supposed to go to them via policy, but he's the mayor. It's not like anyone can make him go, or punish him for not going.


He's only been Mayor for a short time (was elected last November). Prior to that, he served in the US House of Representatives (for 20 years). So the excuse that it was somehow the city's fault that he never in all his professional life received any form of sexual harassment training is weak at best. Do we sue the US government then (Or is it the state? Or the district?)?

What's stunning about this case is that he's been refusing to resign, forcing his accusers to come forward publicly, thus making him look much worse (and increasing the odds of civil or even criminal penalties in addition to his inevitable loss of position). What's even more stunning is that despite a continuously growing number of women coming forward about his behavior, some people are still standing by him and his decision not to resign. I get the whole due process argument, but at this point he can't possibly govern effectively at all. No one wants to be within 50 feet of the guy publicly. He can't do his job while this is going on.
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Prior to that, he served in the US House of Representatives (for 20 years).

Did he grab Pelosi's boobs?
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gbaji wrote:
Prior to that, he served in the US House of Representatives (for 20 years).

Did he grab Pelosi's boobs?


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Hey, she might have had some sweet knockers 20 years ago.
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Hey, she might have had some sweet knockers 20 years ago.


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Well they are JFK approved.
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I think he said 20 years ago, not when she was 20 years old.
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I think he said 20 years ago, not when she was 20 years old.


But if you pull apart the wrinkles now you can probably find his stamp of quality.
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What's stunning about this case is that he's been refusing to resign, forcing his accusers to come forward publicly, thus making him look much worse (and increasing the odds of civil or even criminal penalties in addition to his inevitable loss of position). What's even more stunning is that despite a continuously growing number of women coming forward about his behavior, some people are still standing by him and his decision not to resign. I get the whole due process argument, but at this point he can't possibly govern effectively at all.

Govern what, he's the Mayor of San Diego. What does that actually involve? Blowing sailors down at the navy base and throwing out the first pitch at Padres games in front of a crowd of dozens?
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What's stunning about this case is that he's been refusing to resign, forcing his accusers to come forward publicly, thus making him look much worse (and increasing the odds of civil or even criminal penalties in addition to his inevitable loss of position). What's even more stunning is that despite a continuously growing number of women coming forward about his behavior, some people are still standing by him and his decision not to resign. I get the whole due process argument, but at this point he can't possibly govern effectively at all.

Govern what, he's the Mayor of San Diego. What does that actually involve? Blowing sailors down at the navy base and throwing out the first pitch at Padres games in front of a crowd of dozens?


And even the *** sailors don't want anything to do with him. You see the problem?

7 out of the 9 members of the city council want him gone, and don't want him within 100 feet of a council meeting. No one in any public office (aside from maybe those other two council members, although I suspect even their support stops at not calling for his resignation), or any private business dealing with the city wants to be on a phone call with him, let alone in any meeting with him. No state officials want to work with him on anything, nor do any Mayors of other cities (although if Weiner were elected, maybe they'd have something to talk about?). No one wants him involved in any sort of ceremonial duties that a mayor normally is involved in.

Him remaining Mayor is a problem in another way as well: There is the potential of criminal charges being filed against him for sexual assault. But he has the authority to fire the chief of police (and is himself charged with enforcing the laws). Kind of a pickle, even if it may just create the perception of a conflict of interest. I guess the main point is that he's not doing himself any favors with this. He's being given the opportunity to bow out semi-gracefully, but has chosen to go into full denial mode instead. This is forcing other parties to pursue actual legal action against him, where he likely would have gotten off if he'd just stepped down.

If he doesn't resign, then there are only two avenues: A recall election (which would take quite a bit of time), or criminal charges being filed against him. To make matters worse, a pro-Filner group jumped right into the recall process early, so as to make it nearly impossible to get the number of signatures required to have a recall election by the deadline. His own "help" and his own refusal to resign is making criminal charges against him almost a foregone conclusion. He's practically putting the rope around his own neck here.

I've seen arrogant politicians, but this guy really takes the cake. And I've seen strident partisan groups, but the folks standing by and supporting him are so clearly putting politics ahead of morality it's almost nauseating. The good news is that this will put a black eye on the Democratic party around here for a good long time to come. They're taking the suspicion many have in this mostly conservative town that Democrats care about power more than anything else and turning it into demonstrable fact. So, good going guys!
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I have absolutely no idea what this is about so I voted for boobies. so can we get boobies now? Or at least a tl;dr about who this guy is and what happened.
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#21 Aug 01 2013 at 3:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Politician sexually harassed lots of women, refuses to resign, and now tried to get the city to cover his legal bills by saying he never received anti-harassment training.

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The only thing shocking about this case is that someone actually finds "politician clinging to power for dear life" shocking.
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The good news is that this will put a black eye on the Democratic party around here for a good long time to come. They're taking the suspicion many have in this mostly conservative town that Democrats care about power more than anything else and turning it into demonstrable fact. So, good going guys!

Words can't express how concerned I am about the fate of the local Democratic party in San Diego.
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The only thing shocking about this case is that someone actually finds "politician clinging to power for dear life" shocking.
He can't hold a candle to Berlusconi though. He is still claiming he's innocent after having been sentenced to 4 years in jail for tax evasion (because this time, he couldn't get the law changed to make him innocent).
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The good news is that this will put a black eye on the Democratic party around here for a good long time to come. They're taking the suspicion many have in this mostly conservative town that Democrats care about power more than anything else and turning it into demonstrable fact. So, good going guys!

Words can't express how concerned I am about the fate of the local Democratic party in San Diego.


The Dems have actually made some inroads in the area in the last couple decades. Last round of redistricting helped them out quite a bit as well. Without getting into a long drawn out examination of why, this will absolutely set them back a bit.
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He broke the EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW-o-meter!
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