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#1 Jul 25 2013 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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CNN article.




tl;dr on the article:
  • 78 dead, 187 injured and 95 people still in the hospital of which 36 are in critical condition with more bodies expected to be found.
  • Supposedly the driver was going 190km/h on a piece of track where the maximum speed is 80km/h.
  • The train had undergone a routine inspection on the morning of the crash.
  • The driver (who survived but is hospitalized) is being questioned by the police.


Edited, Jul 25th 2013 5:07pm by Aethien
#2 Jul 25 2013 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Was there a Delorean in front of the train?
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#3 Jul 25 2013 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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Was there a Delorean in front of the train?


More likely under it.
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#4 Jul 25 2013 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Was there a Delorean in front of the train?


More likely under it.

Same place, different time.

That video is gruesome. Such a tragedy. Smiley: frown
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#5 Jul 25 2013 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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It shows how ridiculously fast that train was going though. And this is not a good time for trains with the exploding train in Canada and the train crash in Paris in the last month.
#6 Jul 25 2013 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
How the driver/engineer survived that is... wow.
#7 Jul 25 2013 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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IF only there was a way to cap the top speed of trains based on where on the track they are. There is? Oh, it costs a nickel more per train? **** it then.
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#8 Jul 25 2013 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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Speed cap? **** that, I got places to be.
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How the driver/engineer survived that is... wow.


By the looks of the initial crash in that video, the front of the train was the safest place. It moved away from the wall and was traveling down the tracks, everything else was crashing into the wall and grinding down it.
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#10 Jul 25 2013 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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It was the second or third car that derailed first as well, I guess that the front just has a lower center of gravity than the rest of the train.
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So who's still up for a bullet train from DC to Boston?
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Next up: the last tweet from the engineer. "Whoo hoo! Hold mah beer and watch this."
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#13 Jul 26 2013 at 7:35 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe someone put a penny on the track?
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#14 Jul 26 2013 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
The driver has been detained for questioning now that they've determined he wasn't seriously injured.

The train was inspected that morning, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of a mechanical failure in the braking system.

Or the old "bush grew over the speed limit sign" excuse.
#15 Jul 26 2013 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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They also uncovered a bunch of posts on his facebook page (since removed) that bragged about how fast he was going with his trains.
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If that's true, it only reaffirms my position that social media is for people who are mentally handicapped, but sadly, undiagnosed.
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So who's still up for a bullet train from DC to Boston?

Oh, certainly almost no one. I mean a bad thing happened to something vaguely similar, so let's abandon all and any inclinations about implementing this sort of thing. What they need in Spain are more cars, the very safe mode of transportation we primarily use here in God's Chosen Land. Why I have never heard of an 80 person fatality from a car accident!
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Smasharoo wrote:
So who's still up for a bullet train from DC to Boston?

Oh, certainly almost no one. I mean a bad thing happened to something vaguely similar, so let's abandon all and any inclinations about implementing this sort of thing.


Seems like the usual way of doing things though.

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What they need in Spain are more cars, the very safe mode of transportation we primarily use here in God's Chosen Land. Why I have never heard of an 80 person fatality from a car accident!


/shrug. When the argument for mass transit is that it'll be safer/cheaper, anything that calls those into question is going to be applicable.
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How there were ONLY that many people killed is insane, given the speed.
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#20 Jul 26 2013 at 5:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, given that that represents a 30% mortality rate on the scene, that's pretty horrendous.
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Well, given that that represents a 30% mortality rate on the scene, that's pretty horrendous.

Certainly horrendous, I'm just glad it's not higher. At that speed, I wouldn't have been surprised if the mortality rate was 60%+.
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#22 Jul 26 2013 at 6:31 PM Rating: Good
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Since this was a high speed train that means that you have to reserve a ticket in advance and get a chair assigned to you, almost everyone being seated and relatively secure probably mitigated the damage for a lot of people. At least for those not in the first few cars to go off the rails.
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Smasharoo wrote:
So who's still up for a bullet train from DC to Boston?

Oh, certainly almost no one. I mean a bad thing happened to something vaguely similar, so let's abandon all and any inclinations about implementing this sort of thing. What they need in Spain are more cars, the very safe mode of transportation we primarily use here in God's Chosen Land. Why I have never heard of an 80 person fatality from a car accident!

Hey, if a reactor meltdown in Japan that killed no one can prompt a Euro nation to abandon nuke power, I think it's perfectly cromulent for a psychotic train conuctor crashing a train to cause a similar knee-jerk reaction elsewhere. [thatsthejoke.jpg]
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When the argument for mass transit is that it'll be safer/cheaper, anything that calls those into question is going to be applicable.

Let me know when that happens, because it hasn't yet. Driving in a car is still, by a wild margin, the most dangerous thing the average person does. I'm not really sure what the arguments *against* mass transit are, to be honest. Legitimately. I'm trying to think of some POV that makes sense to oppose it, but I can't. I mean aside from the "never spend money on anything!!!" argument that would also apply against having law enforcement, roads, fire services, etc.
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Smasharoo wrote:
When the argument for mass transit is that it'll be safer/cheaper, anything that calls those into question is going to be applicable.

Let me know when that happens, because it hasn't yet. Driving in a car is still, by a wild margin, the most dangerous thing the average person does. I'm not really sure what the arguments *against* mass transit are, to be honest. Legitimately. I'm trying to think of some POV that makes sense to oppose it, but I can't. I mean aside from the "never spend money on anything!!!" argument that would also apply against having law enforcement, roads, fire services, etc.
It's also important to keep in mind that this is by far the largest train related disaster in all of Europe in the last decade.


As far as legitimate reasons against mass transit/trains: It's a very bad mode of transportation if your point of departure or your destination is not close to a train station. It takes me 2 hours and 45 minutes to get from my house to my dad's house by public transport, 1h15m of that is train, the other 90 minutes are almost all bus. For comparison it takes about 1 hour to 1h15m to do it by car and when you're traveling with 2 or more the car is also cheaper.
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I only generally use mass transit when heading to NYC

If I'm going from my house, it's a short drive to the train station, then $40 in fares. It would take $40 in gas, too. So it's always cheaper to take the bus when going alone. But with a friend? If we'll be there for a while, figure it'll be about even, with a general edge to driving. 3 or more, driving is cheaper.
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