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Also, the male protagonists are generally just as stereotyped..

I don't know that I agree with all of Sarkeesian's trope types. That's part of why I'm curious to see the videos move on to cover other categories. Even still, I think there's ample room to work around the ones in that list.

In a manner befitting a male power fantasy, yes. Not exactly the same.



I am, but I don't think gender-neutral/character select games oft fit the bill. They don't offer a female perspective, they typically still feature hyper-sexualized female characters, other female characters in the games are still typically stereotypes that don't have agency, etc. etc. etc.

Sure, sometimes they fit some of the criteria, but it's still a far cry from a well-realized female lead.

Edited, May 30th 2013 5:04pm by Eske

The thing is no matter how hard you try your going to upset some group somewhere over something that they dont like. Make a game about a time period where whaling was happening, PETAs down your neck, Make a game about rescuing a princess, Femanists are down your neck. Etc etc.

The only thing to do is tread as lightly as you can while not upsetting the status qou and trying (or hoping) you dont upset a demographic.

If you made a game garnered to women, it would probably (maybe) sell well to women, but not to men. But I think most people can say that what gamer women want and like isnt to far detached from what men gamers like. I mean most games have been made towards men/boys tastes and yet a good chunk of female gamers exist to and they have been playing the same games as men/boys have, therefore there tastes are similar to men/boys. I mean your not playing a game you hate or loath just to play.

I understand the need for equality between genders, but reading into some stuff because its controversial or to just stir the pot isnt right. Thats judging a people based on their characteristics instead of basing your judgement on each person. Not every German was a ****.

As someone pointed out before though, most games now days have a template type character, with less customizable things, and a some have one where theres a ton of customizable. Even then there are restrictions, its a fantasy game. If the programers dont want fat people in the world they dont program them in, etc. Yet there is small groups of people that want to play fat people in games but cant. You cant cater to everyone all the time.



Edited, May 30th 2013 4:35pm by BeanX

Also missing the point that it's just as much a stereotype to assume that a female gamer doesn't want to play a hypersexual female character. I understand some of the arguments, but as several people have stated, she goes a bit past "reasonable" and right into "rabid reactionary". Not a whole lot of male gamers sit around complaining that there are too many stereotypical tough and handsome heroic male characters and it's offensive to them that game designers don't put enough plain and/or weak characters for them to play so that they can avoid said stereotype.

At a point, it becomes looking for something to complain about IMO.

It's getting there though.

And if she'd restricted her complaints to female figures with tits the size of their heads, the statement above would not apply. So there!

The book and magazine aisle at most grocery/mega stores.

I'll leave that question to the skirts.

Since gbaji has entered into this topic for the side I'm arguing against, I'm going to happily take my leave of it.

Edited, May 30th 2013 11:21pm by Eske

This thread is why Annabella doesn't post any more. It's too addictive yelling at y'all.


The only upside of breasts as large as your head is being able to lick your own nipples.

Edited, May 31st 2013 12:03am by Aripyanfar

I don't think there is a one size fits all female power fantasy. It's not necessarily about being stronger or a better fighter. It's about agency. It's about getting the job done instead of being the reward.

So, not that different than male power fantasies, I guess. It's weird, I know, but women are kinda like people.

No reason to fantasize about power when you can just take it.