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#1 May 20 2013 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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Watching Tornado coverage in Oklahoma City of the Tornado that touch down in Moore OK. Reports of it being 2 mile wide and class 4 if not class 5 :(

Really heart breaking hearing about the destruction.
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I guess the wind really does come sweeping down the plain. I'm terrified of the elephant eye high corn disaster that's bound to occur following this event.
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An update on our Oklahoma Admin, Darqflame is safe, all family accounted for, but no internet or services at this time. Edit, or she could have got internet back literally 30 seconds after I posted this, sure. but it was accurate at the time!

Also, I can't spell accounted...

Edited, May 20th 2013 7:44pm by Kaolian
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Yeah, the whole I can't spell accounted thing... see above.
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#6 May 20 2013 at 9:51 PM Rating: Good
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The storm system just hit here a few minutes ago. 800 miles away and it's still pretty nasty.

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Brutal. My thoughts are with those impacted.
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#8 May 21 2013 at 6:11 AM Rating: Good
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Fifty-something dead? 20 children? Did I hear that right?

Ugh.
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Fifty-something dead? 20 children? Did I hear that right?

Ugh.
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Fifty-something dead? 20 children? Did I hear that right?

Ugh.


You heard right, but per usual the media @#%^ed it all up again. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-oklahoma-city-tornado-20130520,0,7920720.story
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#13 May 21 2013 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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I'm somewhat surprised that with something this destructive, there are "only" 24 deaths.
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From what I've heard, the folks of Oklahoma City are wise in the ways of tornado safety and most people have storm shelters (and the wisdom to use them).
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From what I've heard, the folks of Oklahoma City are wise in the ways of tornado safety and most people have storm shelters (and the wisdom to use them).


Yeah, I'd say they know the drill.
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Listened to the news conference with the mayor of Oklahoma City this afternoon. Sounds like the death counts are really hit and miss right now. It sounds as though a number of dead were taken directly to funeral homes rather than through the city/county coroner so counts are still on-going.
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Listened to the news conference with the mayor of Oklahoma City this afternoon. Sounds like the death counts are really hit and miss right now. It sounds as though a number of dead were taken directly to funeral homes rather than through the city/county coroner so counts are still on-going.


Doesn't help that apparently their hospital got flattened.
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/21/alex-jones-explains-how-government-weather-weap/194167


That Alex Jones is so awesome.........
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Yeah, he's so awesome because doorknobs go to his site, listen to his radio program, absorb his bs (and really want to believe it!) link it, share it, talk about it........

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#22 May 22 2013 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
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He sounds like a crazy hobo on the street corner, why doesn't he look like one?
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Doesn't help that apparently their hospital got flattened.
Oklahoma City's coroner doesn't work in the hospital.
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Listening to NPR this morning, they were interviewing this guy who lived with his wife and foster children across from one of the schools that got hit hard. He woke up just as the cone was forming, and ran to take refuge in the school.

Their house was completely flattened, but they're all safe.

But all I could think of was that those 5 foster kids are almost certainly going to be taken away from that couple now (no home and all). And it sounds, from the way they and the kids were talking, that they were one of the foster families that actually gave a sh*t about the kids in their care. They had five, apparently, but it sounded like at least some of them were related. And keeping siblings together in the foster system is rare. Sucks.
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I'm not particularly up to date on foster family rules and regulations and such, but I don't think Act of God would really disqualify them. A cursory, pathetically lazy in fact, search of Google doesn't really bring up anything though.
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I can only comment on how it works in NJ, but here you HAVE to guarantee residency, and there's very little wiggle room there.

I'm sure there's a grace period, assuming FEMA can guarantee them residency, but in general hotel rooms are not acceptable. I doubt that family will have a permanent residence within whatever the time frame is.

I mean, a residency that allows for proper housing for 5 kids according to foster guidelines? Best case scenario I can see here is that only some of the kids get to stay. I'd be shocked if they managed to keep all of them.
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I can only comment on how it works in NJ, but here you HAVE to guarantee residency, and there's very little wiggle room there.

I'm sure there's a grace period, assuming FEMA can guarantee them residency, but in general hotel rooms are not acceptable. I doubt that family will have a permanent residence within whatever the time frame is.

I mean, a residency that allows for proper housing for 5 kids according to foster guidelines? Best case scenario I can see here is that only some of the kids get to stay. I'd be shocked if they managed to keep all of them.


I'm pretty sure the regulations allow for extenuating circumstances.
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I guess I didn't know (or remember) that DF lived in OKC.

On a related note, a tornado hit a few miles north of me. Who'd'a thunk it?
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An update on our Oklahoma Admin, Darqflame is safe


Duh. Her 'Resist cataclysm' stats are off the scale, and she never goes anywhere without her "Fine Leather Corset of Invincibility".

Glad she's OK (pun intended).

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On a related note, a tornado hit a few miles north of me. Who'd'a thunk it?
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It's sad, but it's very likely some or all of those kids will get taken away. The social workers aren't supposed to look at "extenuating circumstances", they are supposed to look at the welfare of the children. Maybe the family will get lucky and this will slip through the cracks, but this would be the ONE TIME the system actually does what they are supposed to.

Then they will place the kids with a horrible family and forget all about them.

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It's sad, but it's very likely some or all of those kids will get taken away. The social workers aren't supposed to look at "extenuating circumstances", they are supposed to look at the welfare of the children. Maybe the family will get lucky and this will slip through the cracks, but this would be the ONE TIME the system actually does what they are supposed to.

Unless you have personal knowledge of the this family you have no way of knowing that.

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Then they will place the kids with a horrible family and forget all about them.
You have no way of knowing this either.

Do you always just assume the worst of everyone?

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I tried looking it up, and all I could find was information about how disaster plans were required to become a foster parent, but I somehow doubt that that means you have plans that cover completely losing the home. They mean evacuation plans and such.

I didn't see anything suggesting that state law included natural disasters, and everything I've seen of foster systems in general suggests that those parents won't keep the kids unless they can obtain permanent housing right away. But the code they've published online specifies that you must maintain a home with sufficient sleeping arrangements, or lose your eligibility, and that a child will be removed if they deem it in their best interests. Considering this is a state that isn't a stranger to natural disasters, and that there's absolutely no mention of emergency extenuating circumstances in the code, makes me think that it's just not in it.

It's possible they can keep the kids. Maybe they have a lot in savings (though the father worked nights, so I doubt it). But it's also possible that FEMA can place them in a large rented home, instead of an apartment. If it's something they can actually afford to rent until they have something else, it might suffice.
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