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That said, the entire document dump is available online. Not all documents on Benghazi of course but rather the chain of communication during the crafting of the talking points Gbaji is having conniptions about.

Edited, May 16th 2013 5:58pm by Jophiel

Well, Deputy Assistant, meaning under the Assistant.

Says the guy that didn't even read his own article. But then again, considering how bad a writer you are it really doesn't surprise me reading is just as difficult. Either way, you're still two senior:one junior in the hole. I know you don't want to focus on facts and numbers since those have, well pretty much always, proved you wrong, so you're going to conspiracy theory the hell out of it and hope no one notices. Being a hypocrite like you must suck. Don't bring your facts into this discussion young man.

Edited, May 16th 2013 7:25pm by lolgaxe

We're actually not, but boy do you wish we were!

Argument implies you actually have a leg to stand on. I'm just pointing out the faults in your party rhetoric that you're parroting, and watching you spin in the web of hypocrisy. Like for insistence right now you're saying it's "end of story" because the assistant to an assistant to a committee head said so. Using your new logic of "you don't have to prove it for it to be true," then I'll say they were told to say more money wouldn't have helped and that less money was the correct choice. Prove me wrong.

Edited, May 16th 2013 7:34pm by lolgaxe

Well, it's nice that you think so.

Five levels.

Edit: Please, don't let your "missed word" here and "missed layer" there stop you from explaining how you understand all this and just how important your source is. I notice graphs and charts throw you off. Don't let it get you down. Continue, continue.

Edited, May 16th 2013 7:45pm by lolgaxe

I love how you've latched onto the least relevant part of this whole conversation. Ultimately, none of this matters. She's the one who made the decision. She says it had nothing to do with budget. Thus, you are wrong. End of story.

Edited, May 16th 2013 4:53pm by gbaji

Do you honestly believe it was something else? I'm kinda curious what you think that was? I mean, it's awfully convenient that the incorrect talking points in the final briefing document just happened to tie into the narrative the Obama administration wanted. It's like getting into a car crash in your Honda and having your car happen to smash into the shape of a functioning Lamborghini. I'm sure that was just a random occurrence though!

Yes. As mentioned in previous threads on the topic. Heck, I even quoted a column by a former Bush-era CIA analyst discussing exactly why it was not only plausible but extremely likely that the talking points reflected what was thought to be accurate at the time. You just said "Nuh UH! No one would EVER think that!"

I mean, nice work on saying "honestly" as though no one could ever think differently than you and anyone claiming to must be lying. That was pretty ninja. But, yeah, I think the whole GOP "It was a trick!" line is nothing more than politics. Certainly they haven't shown anything yet to the contrary. Did a great job of revealing CIA assets in the region though during the course of their little witch hunt. So nice work there, Issa.

Sure. And in the absence of a mountain of evidence that nearly everyone in the intelligence community knew that this was a planned attack and didn't derive spontaneously from some protests over a film, you'd have a great point. Which I seem to recall was more or less my response back then.


And even if we accept that someone actually believed that this was a result of the protests, it still does not explain why days later, after it was clearly known that this wasn't the case, the false story was being repeated. It also doesn't explain why weeks later Obama himself was still repeating the same false story either when he spoke to the UN. The whole thing smacks of this being the story they wanted more than the story they got. If it had just been the story that came from the intelligence, then they would not have been so incredibly resistant to changing it as the facts became clearer. But they clearly did cling to that version of events long after it was abundantly clear that it wasn't true.


So yeah. In the face of that, it's hard to swallow the idea that they had nothing to do with that story being created in the first place. They had every reason to invent it, and no one else did.

Edited, May 16th 2013 5:26pm by gbaji

Prior threads where it was established (by you of course) that there was nothing to this story. Yet here we are months later with the story. Hmmmm...