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#1 May 02 2013 at 1:11 AM Rating: Decent
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5-year-old Kentucky boy fatally shoots 2-year-old sister

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A Kentucky mother stepped outside of her home just for a few minutes, but it was long enough for her 5-year-old son to accidentally shoot and kill his 2-year-old sister with the .22-caliber rifle he got for his birthday, state officials said.


For his birthday? Really??

6-year-old Boy Dies after N.J. Accidental Shooting

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A 6-year-old boy who was accidentally shot in the head by a 4-year-old playmate has died from his wounds


Accidentally?? Really.

I really think some people in the US need to take a long hard look at the reality they are raising their kids into.

Other than to say 'FUcking ****', I really am lost for words.

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#2 May 02 2013 at 1:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Typical kneejerk reaction.
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It still seems like you're trying to get accidents once you start giving gun to little kids. Paulsol's rage aside, whoever thought it was a good idea to give 4 and 5 year olds guns of their own?
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Paulsol's rage aside


Not rage. More bewilderment as to why someone thought giving guns to little children was a good idea.

Then I found this company advertising their wares, and now I realise that a surprising amount of people are completely, irretrievably mad.

Good luck America. You're going to need it.

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Comments from the pro gun bloggers and commenters on news sites about this just say "Guns aren't the problem, safety training is!". But heaven forbid anyone try to regulate gun sales by suggesting that owners be required to do ANY sort of training, safety courses, licensing, etc. prior to purchasing...
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#6Elinda, Posted: May 02 2013 at 6:12 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yet you found plenty of words to come and dis a nation. For what?.... For two (2!) accidental shooting of kids (keep in mind there are ~60million kids under 14 in the US). We all know gun violence is a problem in this country. Two little kids getting accidently getting shot is tragic, it's only tangentially related to the heart of the problem.
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whoever thought it was a good idea to give 4 and 5 year olds guns of their own?
People whose welfare includes hunting for food? I'd say "people who want to teach their children that a gun is simply a tool, not some evil machine, and aren't scary" but this case counters that assertion. It's the parent's fault, not the rifle's.
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#8 May 02 2013 at 7:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Two little kids getting accidently getting shot is tragic


No it isn't. Its completely avoidable.

I'm not 'dissing' a nation. I'm flabbergasted that the people of a nation see arming children as acceptable, even desirable.

I don't let my seven year old use a powersaw without complete supervision from myself, because no matter how much I 'train' him, he's SEVEN. He has no understanding of consequences. Sooner or later he will accidentaly chop his bloody fingers off. I certainly wouldn't dream of buying him one as a gift (even if it was candy coloured) because he is SEVEN.

Why a whole country ALLOWS a company such as the one I linked to sell lethal firearms to CHILDREN makes no sense to me. Why is my utter disbelief at that state of affairs 'bigoted'? It would seem perfectly normal to the majority of people on the planet.

How a reality of a people becomes so bent out of shape that a company that manufactures 60,000+ firearms a year and whose main target market is children is allowed to operate at all completely blows me away. And scares me not a little bit.

If you think that my view is the abberant one, then, sorry. That's your problem. But I assure you that selling firearms to children is utterly fUcked.

Edited, May 2nd 2013 1:20pm by paulsol
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I don't let my seven year old use a powersaw without complete supervision from myself, because no matter how much I 'train' him, he's SEVEN.
Sounds like you're saying you do let your seven year old use a powersaw, though.
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Two little kids getting accidently getting shot is tragic


No it isn't. Its completely avoidable.

I'm not 'dissing' a nation. I'm flabbergasted that the people of a nation see arming children as acceptable, even desirable.
I'm flabbergasted that you would consider a five year old with a shot gun as being 'armed'. This kids family had likely been using guns to hunt for generations.

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I don't let my seven year old use a powersaw without complete supervision from myself,
I wouldn't let my seven year old use a power saw.



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If you think that my view is the abberant one, then, sorry. That's your problem. But I assure you that selling firearms to children is utterly fUcked.
Your view is not a rational one. How many kids do you think die in this country because they got a hold of their parents meds, or even their own meds. How many die from other senseless accidents.

You're the one who's obscuring 'our' problem.

Our problem is not families that use guns to shoot squirrels or deer or protect themselves from grizzlies. Our problem is people securing hand guns, automatics, sawed off shot guns etc etc to protect themselves from, or do harm to other people.

Sure the more guns there are the more accidental shootings there will be. Duh.

I don't think the 5 year old shot his sister out of some kind of vigilante self-defense. Nor do I think this isolated case is the one to hinge responsible gun regulation on.

But you go ahead and ignore the facts because a child died needlessly. You might want to spend more of your indigence to fix up problems right there at home. Go surf - I'm sure no child has ever needlessly drowned in NZ.

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A UNICEF report on child maltreatment deaths, from 1994 to 1998, placed New Zealand near the bottom for deaths in the OECD, at number 24 out of 27 countries [5]. The mortality rate for New Zealand was 1.2 deaths per 100,000 children under the age of 15 years, compared to the OECD median of 0.6 deaths per 100,000 children.

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I don't think the 5 year old shot his sister out of some kind of vigilante self-defense. Nor do I think this isolated case is the one to hinge responsible gun regulation on.

Exactly. It's as if he had killed her by hitting her with the automobile his parents gave him as a gift. Obviously he shouldn't have been driving without supervision, but adding regulations to automobile ownership based on age won't make a difference. His family has probably been using automobiles to provide transportation to work for generations.
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I'd like to see you try.
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paulsol wrote:
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Two little kids getting accidently getting shot is tragic


No it isn't. Its completely avoidable.

I'm not 'dissing' a nation. I'm flabbergasted that the people of a nation see arming children as acceptable, even desirable.

Edited, May 2nd 2013 1:20pm by paulsol


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I don't let my seven year old use a powersaw without complete supervision from myself, because no matter how much I 'train' him, he's SEVEN.
Sounds like you're saying you do let your seven year old use a powersaw, though.


Of course i do. I want him to know how to use power tools safely. He also uses my drill, sanders and jigsaw, as well as my lawnmower. But he does it when I'm standing right there with him, watching his every move.

But I wouldn't wait for him to get home from school and tell him to get his candy striped chainsaw out from under his bed and go and knock a few trees over before dinner.
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I'm flabbergasted that you would consider a five year old with a shot gun as being 'armed'.


I would consider a 5 year old with a shotty the very definition of being 'armed'.

And sorry, but the rest of your reply is equally dissapointing.
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paulsol wrote:


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I don't let my seven year old use a powersaw without complete supervision from myself, because no matter how much I 'train' him, he's SEVEN.
Sounds like you're saying you do let your seven year old use a powersaw, though.


Of course i do. I want him to know how to use power tools safely. He also uses my drill, sanders and jigsaw, as well as my lawnmower. But he does it when I'm standing right there with him, watching his every move.

But I wouldn't wait for him to get home from school and tell him to get his candy striped chainsaw out from under his bed and go and knock a few trees over before dinner.
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I'm flabbergasted that you would consider a five year old with a shot gun as being 'armed'.


I would consider a 5 year old with a shotty the very definition of being 'armed'.

And sorry, but the rest of your reply is equally dissapointing.
Armed for what?

Can you tell me that every parent in awesome new zealand will always be and has always been as diligent about caring for the well-being of their children as you? This is one case of parental negligence in a family that isn't anything like yours. And you have the audacity to judge an entire country on it? If you want to talk about our little 'gun' issue, do so, this isn't doing that.
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lolgaxe wrote:
paulsol wrote:
I don't let my seven year old use a powersaw without complete supervision from myself, because no matter how much I 'train' him, he's SEVEN.
Sounds like you're saying you do let your seven year old use a powersaw, though.


I think he assumes the parents just bought him the gun, handed it to him, and said "Ok. Go have fun!". Cause it's easier to make stupid arguments when you apply assumptions that don't apply in any other case to this one.
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Armed for what?


Not armed 'for'. Armed 'with'.

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Can you tell me that every parent in awesome new zealand will always be and has always been as diligent about caring for the well-being of their children as you? This is one case of parental negligence in a family that isn't anything like yours. And you have the audacity to judge an entire country on it? If you want to talk about our little 'gun' issue, do so, this isn't doing that.


No. And I wouldn't presume to tell you about 'every' anything. What I have done is expressed my disbelief that a country with as much paranoia about violence being perpetrated on them by others thinks its ok for an American company to produce thousands upon thousands of firearms with the sole purpose of selling them to little kids.

Your handbag clutching response to my post shows (to me at least) that you feel selling guns to kids is part of living the dream. Or am I wrong?

Also, Hi Gbaji. GFY.
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Also, Hi Gbaji. GFY.


GFY to you too! Smiley: grin

Geez. I go on vacation for one lousy week and see what happens. **** and handbaskets I say!
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Your handbag clutching response to my post shows (to me at least) that you feel selling guns to kids is part of living the dream. Or am I wrong?


Sure, why not? Maybe the kid dreams of being davy crockett.

I could probably get behind a ban on advertising or marketing guns to kids. Though it wouldn't fly and not worth the fight. I wouldn't have much impact. At least not near as much as, really, almost any decent gun policy. The paranoia, or the carnage, isn't coming from Johnny's First Rifle.

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