I've got a loaded pellet gun in a curio cabinet in my dining room. Used to use it to shoot at my far neighbors roaming dogs as they were tearing up my yard as a kid. I also have a container of 100 .22 bullets in the same cabinet, and a child-sized "chipmunk" .22 rifle sitting in my bedroom closet.
What points are we trying to make about leaving loaded guns in a room with unsupervised children and whether or not proper training courses would make that less likely to happen?
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I dunno what the point is anymore.
But lets ask this question. Currently there are no age limitations on gun ownership or use. Should there be?
Consider - for the most part it's 16 to drive, 21 to drink alcohol. I think most states have age restrictions on recreational vehicles like snowmobiles and 4-wheelers - 13 is an age that comes to mind. I know I got a snowmobile license at 13 - I had to take a safety class to get it. My kids had to take a safety class to get a 4-wheeler license though I don't recall what the age was (these instances were both in MN).
Without doing much research, I'd think 13 is a good age to limit gun use to - with other restrictions of course. We need good regulations on guns, but i think we need an attitude adjustment just as much. Guns have become a symbol for freedom in this country - that's just plain scary.
But lets ask this question. Currently there are no age limitations on gun ownership or use. Should there be?
Consider - for the most part it's 16 to drive, 21 to drink alcohol. I think most states have age restrictions on recreational vehicles like snowmobiles and 4-wheelers - 13 is an age that comes to mind. I know I got a snowmobile license at 13 - I had to take a safety class to get it. My kids had to take a safety class to get a 4-wheeler license though I don't recall what the age was (these instances were both in MN).
Without doing much research, I'd think 13 is a good age to limit gun use to - with other restrictions of course. We need good regulations on guns, but i think we need an attitude adjustment just as much. Guns have become a symbol for freedom in this country - that's just plain scary.
Alma wrote:
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Elinda wrote:
I dunno what the point is anymore.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I think every child should be tested for aptitude with a variety of medieval weapons at the age of 5, with specializations chosen at 10 based on proficiency and level of interest.
Dibs on this thing.
Dibs on this thing.
Any specific medieval, or can we choose between Eastern and Western weapons? Ranged and close combat options? Gunpowder? I'd like to know all my options.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I dunno what the point is anymore.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Eske Esquire wrote:
I think every child should be tested for aptitude with a variety of medieval weapons at the age of 5, with specializations chosen at 10 based on proficiency and level of interest.
I predict many girls will specialize in whips.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
lolgaxe wrote:
Any specific medieval, or can we choose between Eastern and Western weapons? Ranged and close combat options? Gunpowder? I'd like to know all my options.
Any medieval.
Ranged ok.
No gunpowder.
Eske Esquire wrote:
No gunpowder.
Still going with archery, just now no exploding arrows.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
No gunpowder.
Still going with archery, just now no exploding arrows.
Longbow or short? Please keep in mind, that I'm going to use this information to disparage your ***** size, regardless of choice.
Short, since you know. Five year olds.
And with a significant cough I could be an innie.
And with a significant cough I could be an innie.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
No gunpowder.
Still going with archery, just now no exploding arrows.
Magnesium, Iron or Copper Oxide, Aluminum. Ye Olde Thermite Arrows will make em wish for exploding ones.
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BrownDuck wrote:
Samira wrote:
I grew up farther south than these yokels, and I never knew anyone who gave a five-year-old his own rifle, much less "stored" them in a corner.
Maybe you just had shitty parents.
True, but irrelevant.
Elinda wrote:
But lets ask this question. Currently there are no age limitations on gun ownership or use. Should there be?
Then again, there's no mention of age on the page for the act. I do know that we were prohibited from selling firearms and ammunition to people under 18(21 for pistols) when I worked at Kmart back in high school.
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Did they repeal the Brady bill?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Then again, there's no mention of age on the page for the act. I do know that we were prohibited from selling firearms and ammunition to people under 18(21 for pistols) when I worked at Kmart back in high school.
Which is funny for instances where the pistol and rifle ammunition is the same. I remember guying .22 rounds and being asked that. Though I thought I was under 18 and could buy .22 rounds for my rifle... maybe I am remembering wrong, or maybe laws have changed... or maybe it's store policy driven?
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Elinda wrote:
But lets ask this question. Currently there are no age limitations on gun ownership or use. Should there be?
Who's to say the parents don't claim ownership of the gun, though? That they bought it for their child doesn't necessitate child ownership.
BrownDuck wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Elinda wrote:
But lets ask this question. Currently there are no age limitations on gun ownership or use. Should there be?
Who's to say the parents don't claim ownership of the gun, though? That they bought it for their child doesn't necessitate child ownership.
Edited, May 2nd 2013 9:38am by Poldaran
BrownDuck wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Elinda wrote:
But lets ask this question. Currently there are no age limitations on gun ownership or use. Should there be?
Who's to say the parents don't claim ownership of the gun, though? That they bought it for their child doesn't necessitate child ownership.
I suspect states have various regulation on ages. I don't think the feds do. I could be wrong.
I am wrong...
federal code wrote:
(1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the
licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than
eighteen years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is
other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or
rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable
cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age;
licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than
eighteen years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is
other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or
rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable
cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age;
Edited, May 2nd 2013 5:57pm by Elinda
Alma wrote:
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I'm somehow surprised Arizona's laws aren't a bit more loose.
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Child Access Prevention in Kentucky wrote:
Kentucky does not impose criminal liability for negligent storage of a firearm
Edited, May 2nd 2013 11:50am by lolgaxe
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Child Access Prevention in Kentucky wrote:
Kentucky does not impose criminal liability for negligent storage of a firearm
And here I thought Darwin was a dirty word in Kentucky.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
BrownDuck wrote:
Samira wrote:
I grew up farther south than these yokels, and I never knew anyone who gave a five-year-old his own rifle, much less "stored" them in a corner.
It was a .22. I had my first pellet gun at age 6, and my first .22 at age 9.
Right. Learn the concepts of handling and shooting with an airgun, then move on to firearms.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debalic wrote:
Right. Learn the concepts of handling and shooting with an airgun, then move on to firearms.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
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