Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

Investing in stuff. and things Possibly thingstuff.Follow

#1 Apr 27 2013 at 2:19 AM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,905 posts
So, I have the usual g-man pension and various optional contributory deferred compensation type thingies as well as other fairly normal investments, bonds, etc. But i've never really dabbled in the stock market or other investment type things all that much. I've decided that it's probably time to start doing more of that. So basically I'm looking for ideas. I'll probably play with stocks, mainly sticking with companies or industries I know a fair amount about (aerospace, computers, technology in general, mining and mineral aquisition (particularily rare earths at the moment), a couple of the standard index stocks for balance, etc. but i also want to pick collective brains for other ideas. I tried investing in zombies but their brains weren't worth picking.

So, any ideas or theroies that have worked well for you in the past? wacky off the wall zany investment conspiracy theories that you think might work but haven't tried? companies that you work for that totally don't suck (or does that constitute insider trading? if so, nevermind that one)? Random 3 letter combinations that sound neat? I already looked up the first obvious choice of Western Asset Vrble Rate Strtgc Fnd Inc, so thats covered already...

So yeah, that. best performing idea after oh, lets say a month or two gets a chunk of rate ups or something!
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#2 Apr 27 2013 at 2:34 AM Rating: Good
******
27,272 posts
Invest in beer, that's what I do.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#3 Apr 27 2013 at 3:27 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Put it all in Lucent Technologies.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#4 Apr 27 2013 at 4:02 AM Rating: Good
Ministry of Silly Cnuts
*****
19,493 posts
I could sell you some of my shares in Dracoid's "Zombie repellent neon codpieces" business.
____________________________
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
#5 Apr 27 2013 at 5:26 AM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
*****
11,417 posts
I've heard that Batcoins are a safe investment.
____________________________
Shaowstrike (Retired - FFXI)
91PUP/BLM 86SMN/BST 76DRK
Cooking/Fishing 100


"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
— James D. Nicoll
#6 Apr 27 2013 at 10:10 AM Rating: Excellent
Lunatic
******
29,588 posts
Put it all in Lucent Technologies.

Wise!

Buy an S&P 500 index fund and wait 20 years. Not a joke. Chances of outperforming it long term are close to nil and almost all cases where it occurs will be complete blind luck. The cases that aren't blind luck will involve access to information and techniques you don't have.

So yeah, that. best performing idea after oh, lets say a month or two gets a chunk of rate ups or something!

You shouldn't even look at your portfolio every couple of months. Once a year is probably too much. If your horizon is that short, use a savings account or a very low risk instrument, a CD or whatever.
____________________________
Disclaimer:

To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? ***. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#7 Apr 27 2013 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,905 posts
Sure, on the other hand I have the longer term investments, so I'm prepared to accept a bit higher risk on this particular one., I found another thing i need to invest in... Glow in the dark sheep! Much easier for people with insomnia to count!

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/phosphorescent-sheep-uruguays-institute-of-animal-reproduction-creates-glow-in-the-dark-sheep
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#8 Apr 27 2013 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
Avatar
****
7,481 posts
Ive been moderately successful shorting technology markets. I made a couple grand recently off of my strategy. (not i have only actively been playing the market since summer last year.)

My strategy has basically been.
Read about cool gizmo to be released by company.
Investigate its stock history.
Wait for the pre release sell off to buy lower.
Hold stock for about a month after release (this pretty much means it is world wide by then maximum distribution.)
Wait for the first short sellers to jump off the bridge.
Then I sell after recovery.

If you are looking for a moderate - long term option I think RIM (now BB) is a solid choice, I have owned a couple hundred shares since October, and have seen a 6 dollar increase on my per share value. With another new phone slated to be phased in over the next month, and possibly a new tablet later this year, BB is pretty strong. It hasn't moved much since the Z10 was released, they have positive wallet, and cash on hand. As well as all them patents.

It is currently my long term hold option, and based on projections through the end of the year it is likely profitable up to $20/Share (which would be about 3 times what I initially invested my self) Some say it could go north of 40 by years end.

dunno if that helps at all.
____________________________
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.

#9 Apr 27 2013 at 11:34 AM Rating: Good
******
27,272 posts
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Sure, on the other hand I have the longer term investments, so I'm prepared to accept a bit higher risk on this particular one.
As much as my previous post was a joke, investing in a craft brewer near you may be a good idea. Craft beer in general has been growing at around 15% a year for the past couple of years and lots of breweries are looking to expand because they can't meet demands so there could be opportunities there.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#10 Apr 27 2013 at 12:10 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,905 posts
The problem with craft brewers is that there are about 50,000 billion of them in Washington, and i don't know enough about any of them to make an informed decision. Any reccommendations?
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#11 Apr 27 2013 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
******
27,272 posts
The west coast of the US (I'm assuming you mean the state Washington?) is pretty much overflowing with world class brewers. It'd depend on which ones are looking for investors though.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#12 Apr 27 2013 at 4:25 PM Rating: Good
Supreme Lionator
*****
14,174 posts
Invest it all in the equity tranche of a CDO.
____________________________
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
#13 Apr 27 2013 at 4:35 PM Rating: Good
Worst. Title. Ever!
*****
15,264 posts
Kavekk wrote:
Invest it all in the equity tranche of a CDO.


Good bet. Call of Duty games always sell well.
____________________________
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
#14 Apr 27 2013 at 5:01 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
****
9,382 posts
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Sure, on the other hand I have the longer term investments, so I'm prepared to accept a bit higher risk on this particular one.
As much as my previous post was a joke, investing in a craft brewer near you may be a good idea. Craft beer in general has been growing at around 15% a year for the past couple of years and lots of breweries are looking to expand because they can't meet demands so there could be opportunities there.


Quote:
In the third quarter ending September 30, 2012, sales for beer from breweries with annual production of less than 160,000 hectolitres rose 19.4% for draft beer and 13.3% for packaged beer.


It's true. I don't know that any of these companies are trading however...

Quote:
Many of the province’s craft breweries have benefitted from shifting preferences over the years. BCLDB sales for Surrey’s Central City Brewing Co., for example, jumped nearly 1,400% to $2 million for the year ending March 31 from $138,809 in 2007, according to BCLDB’s schedule of payments.

Squamish’s Howe Sound Brewing sales jumped 836% to $1.5 million from $161,440 in 2007. Victoria’s Phillips Brewing has seen BCLDB sales jump nearly 450% to $8.8 million from $1.6 million in 2007.


Obviously the jumps look really significant because they started off with such low sales, but still, there is a huge shift going on with beer preferences right now. It has players like Molsen getting scared enough to start buying up craft breweries to stem overall sales declines.

http://www.biv.com/article/20130129/BIV0119/301299949/-1/BIV/craft-breweries-in-bc-taking-bigger-market-share



Edited, Apr 27th 2013 4:05pm by Olorinus
____________________________
lolgaxe wrote:
When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.

clicky
#15 Apr 28 2013 at 1:20 AM Rating: Good
Wowhead Mod
Avatar
*
92 posts
I've in the past had some success investing in Barnes & Noble as well as Amazon. I don't currently have stock as I was only doing that for about four months as personal interest peaked during my accounting class. However, I almost hit a return of 60% so I was quite happy to exit gracefully while I was ahead.
#16 Apr 28 2013 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,905 posts
Hmm. I do buy enough books to keep their company going indefinitly.
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#17 Apr 29 2013 at 6:21 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
16,322 posts
Invest in hogs and pork bellies (BACon is 4ever).
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#18 Apr 29 2013 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
******
44,520 posts
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Invest in beer, that's what I do.
That's not investing, that's ******* your money away.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#19 Apr 29 2013 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
******
27,272 posts
lolgaxe wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Invest in beer, that's what I do.
That's not investing, that's ******* your money away.
Depends, if you cellar the right beer in the right way for long enough they increase in value quite a bit.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#20 Apr 29 2013 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
12,071 posts
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Invest in beer, that's what I do.
That's not investing, that's ******* your money away.
Depends, if you cellar the right beer in the right way for long enough they increase in value quite a bit.


That's like the bad version of investing in wine.
____________________________
Just as Planned.
#21 Apr 30 2013 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
******
44,520 posts
I'm going to invest in grape drink.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#22 Apr 30 2013 at 7:34 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
lolgaxe wrote:
I'm going to invest in grape drink purple drank.

____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#23 Apr 30 2013 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
******
27,272 posts
Timelordwho wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Invest in beer, that's what I do.
That's not investing, that's ******* your money away.
Depends, if you cellar the right beer in the right way for long enough they increase in value quite a bit.


That's like the bad version of investing in wine.
I'm just saying it's an option, not that it's a good one.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#24 Apr 30 2013 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
******
44,520 posts
Jophiel wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I'm going to invest in grape drink purple drank.
Crap, I went with counterfeit liquid stocks.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#25 Apr 30 2013 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
Avatar
****
7,481 posts
Thanks to all the Brits who sold out the Blackberry Q10 on day 1, good couple days for BlackBerry =D.
____________________________
HEY GOOGLE. **** OFF YOU. **** YOUR ******** SEARCH ENGINE IN ITS ******* ****** BINARY ***. ALL DAY LONG.

#26 Apr 30 2013 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
Unforkgettable
*****
13,251 posts
Jophiel wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I'm going to invest in grape drink purple drank.

Screenshot
____________________________
Banh
#27 May 02 2013 at 8:04 PM Rating: Good
Repressed Memories
******
20,590 posts
If you have money you can afford to lose and want to try to beat out an index, bet on what you know--that's not to say bet on what you're interested in. A friend of mine makes a few thousand every other weekend or so making sports bets in Vegas. He apparently knows enough to beat the odds but doesn't care enough to be emotionally invested in a team. Obama made me 17% apr. You can make money on almost anything. Any targeted recommendations here are probably beyond the opportunity of arbitrage.

If I had to bet on a specific industry: craft clothing. Five years from now your Bannaa Republics are going to have a special section for fair-wage/enviro-friendly/"hand sewn" clothing. It's the next progression for new domestics after organic food.

Edited, May 2nd 2013 9:05pm by Allegory
#28 May 02 2013 at 9:45 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,905 posts
So far I've "made" all of $20. Which given how little I've actually purchased at this point is really good. So far i have some CSX, ford, Lockheed, hudsons bay minerals, Oddessy Marine, and General Electric. Barnes and Noble is up fairly high at the moment. Apperently welches doesn't sell stock and I don't know of any other good grape drink makers. I refuse to give research in motion any money though, because I've installed blackberry enterprise server before, the old version, and I still wake up screaming in terror from that experiance from time to time.

The glow in the dark sheep people won't send me a sheep if I buy stock, so ***** them. who wants an Urugayan sheep anyways?
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#29 May 03 2013 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good
******
44,520 posts
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The glow in the dark sheep people won't send me a sheep
They're still in the testing phase. If they're going to compete with RealDolls, they're going to need all the field testing they can get.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#30 May 03 2013 at 7:57 AM Rating: Good
******
27,272 posts
Plenty of Welsh people who'd sign up for that.
____________________________
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
#31 May 03 2013 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
Lunatic
******
29,588 posts
He apparently knows enough to beat the odds

No, he's lying to you or in a mild lucky bit of variance. If he "knew enough to beat the odds" he'd be emailing you from his chain of private islands. Sports betting isn't really beatable. Possible that large syndicates can eek out 1% or so in idea circumstances by arbitraging spreads in odds, but the chance that your friend is just good enough to make a few grand here and there but doesn't bother making the near infinite amount of money he could if that were the case seems fairly unlikely. Ask him for his bets before the outcomes the next time he's going.

____________________________
Disclaimer:

To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? ***. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#32 May 03 2013 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
Repressed Memories
******
20,590 posts
Smasharoo wrote:
No, he's lying to you

Highly plausible. I don't know enough/care enough on the gambling scene to ask him details before. I do know the minor gambling he does locally is against pools of chumps and not a house.
#33 May 03 2013 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
******
44,520 posts
Bet on Mets games like I do. You've always got more than 50% odds of winning if you bet against them.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#34 May 03 2013 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
Skelly Poker Since 2008
*****
16,322 posts
lolgaxe wrote:
Bet on Mets games like I do. You've always got more than 50% odds of winning if you bet against them.

There can't be much of a pay-out.
____________________________
Alma wrote:
Post and be happy!
#35 May 03 2013 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
Tracer Bullet
*****
12,599 posts

Helium futures*


*I have no idea if that's actually a good investment, just that it's something different.
____________________________
Na Zdrowie
#36 May 03 2013 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
******
44,520 posts
I'd imagine it's on the rise.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#37 May 03 2013 at 10:49 AM Rating: Excellent
Meat Popsicle
*****
12,018 posts
Helium is a bad investment in the long run. The universe is making more of it, and we're using up our hydrogen at an alarming rate (there's your sure bet!). Sure it may look good now but you'll be pretty screwed in 10 trillion years when there's more helium and heavy metals than anyone knows what to do with.
____________________________
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
#38 May 03 2013 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
Tracer Bullet
*****
12,599 posts

You have a point. And analysts do say you shouldn't get shortsighted and fiddle with your investments more often than every billion years or so.
____________________________
Na Zdrowie
#39 May 03 2013 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
I have no advice Kao, but you have reminded me I need to check my old pension. It grew since 2007 as I invested in S America, I need to check it's still going up.

Good luck in what you invest in. But I had wondered ... if it was me, I would pay off my mortgage quickly and avoid the interest payments, is that not an option for you? That's 100% guaranteed savings or are you looking for the thrill?
#40 May 03 2013 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
493 posts
Investing everything in bitcoins is the only logical decision.
____________________________
#41 May 04 2013 at 12:03 AM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,905 posts
Rachel9 wrote:
Investing everything in bitcoins is the only logical decision.


And risk weakening my batcoin holdings???
Screenshot
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 59 All times are in CST
Cyliena, Kavekkk, Strummer, Anonymous Guests (56)