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#102 Apr 16 2013 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.
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News seems to be making a big deal about the whole pressure cooker thing. It is just a sealed container...
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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.


The question that's been bugging me is how the **** no one noticed these things. A 6 liter pressure cooker is pretty large. I'd like to know where they were placed. Were they inside the stores where the explosions seemed to come from, or just placed against the fronts but still on the street? And again, how the **** does no one notice this? The first one was literally right at the end point of the run, where there were lots of security and folks working the marathon. It's just amazing to me that not one, but two such devices could be placed there and not be seen.
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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.


The question that's been bugging me is how the **** no one noticed these things. A 6 liter pressure cooker is pretty large. I'd like to know where they were placed. Were they inside the stores where the explosions seemed to come from, or just placed against the fronts but still on the street? And again, how the **** does no one notice this? The first one was literally right at the end point of the run, where there were lots of security and folks working the marathon. It's just amazing to me that not one, but two such devices could be placed there and not be seen.


News report on NPR said they were inside black bags. I'm imagining a duffel bag or backpack very similar to something one of the people watching and runner support folk would be carrying around. Six Liters is not that large (less than 2 gallons) so the backpack wouldn't have to be huge, and would not seem that strange.

Edited, Apr 16th 2013 6:35pm by TirithRR
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gbaji wrote:
Elinda wrote:
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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.


The question that's been bugging me is how the **** no one noticed these things. A 6 liter pressure cooker is pretty large. I'd like to know where they were placed. Were they inside the stores where the explosions seemed to come from, or just placed against the fronts but still on the street? And again, how the **** does no one notice this? The first one was literally right at the end point of the run, where there were lots of security and folks working the marathon. It's just amazing to me that not one, but two such devices could be placed there and not be seen.
6 Quart is the small size pressure cooker. CLICK4PIC. Remove the handle and it wouldn't look like anything more than a pile of books in a backpack. But there were two.
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Elinda wrote:
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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.

Well...don't fill yours with explosives and shrapnel, and you might be okay.

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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.

Well...don't fill yours with explosives and shrapnel, and you might be okay.


Hang out with canners and you hear horror stories...Smiley: eek
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Pretty sure those were the oldies. New ones are quite a bit safer. I remember when I was a kid my grandmother's giant pressure cooker rattling and whistling away on top of the stove...
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The question that's been bugging me is how the **** no one noticed these things.

They were in black nylon duffel bags which blended in with the bajillion other bags runners and crowd members were carrying around.

Supposedly they used gunpowder as the explosive element. So much for military grade explosives.

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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.



Well thats just fUcking awesome! I dont go anywhere without my pressure cooker, and I bet they are now instabanned from flights.
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Elinda wrote:
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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.



Well thats just fUcking awesome! I dont go anywhere without my pressure cooker, and I bet they are now instabanned from flights.

Smiley: lol

I'm good with them as long as they're not sitting on a hot burner blowing steam out at me and jiggling menacingly.

They'd be easy enough to ban from flights though if that's what you think we should do.
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I don't know about Peimei much as I tend to scroll past his/her posts, but rdm had always been off his rocker.


I've always just attributed his tendency towards sanctimonious prattle to marijuana.

This. He's stoned. He's ALWAYS stoned. Why in the **** does anyone read his sh*t??
People read Gbaji's and Alma's walls of **** surely you can't be surprised that people read Rdmcandie's posts too.
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#116 Apr 16 2013 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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The bombers aim was to create fear. The banning of pressure cookers from flights would be an hysterical reaction, therefore caving in to the bombers aims.

The world should stand strong against this attack, as an ill thought out knee- jerk reaction will only make the efficient cooking of lentils and other pulses more difficult for us vegetarians.
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No one cares about the vegetarians, I say take away the pressure cookers.
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#118 Apr 16 2013 at 6:06 PM Rating: Good
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The bombers aim was to create fear. The banning of pressure cookers from flights would be an hysterical reaction, therefore caving in to the bombers aims.

The world should stand strong against this attack, as an ill thought out knee- jerk reaction will only make the efficient cooking of lentils and other pulses more difficult for us vegetarians.
We should all get on planes with pressure cookers - show them we're not afraid of a kettle with a tight-fitting lid.
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Really it just depends on whether or not the pressure cooker can fit in the overhead bin or under the seat in front of you.
#121 Apr 16 2013 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
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Let's not get foolish here. Check the nationality of the roster's of the teams winning.

Done? Yup, that's right, over 50% Canadians. You aren't better at our national pastime, you just pay better for it.


How does our 3rd world country with our crumbling economy do it?!!
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Elinda wrote:
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A source says the explosives were put in 6-liter kitchen pressure cookers, hidden in black duffel bags and left on the ground.
Pressure cookers scare the **** out of me.


The question that's been bugging me is how the **** no one noticed these things. A 6 liter pressure cooker is pretty large. I'd like to know where they were placed. Were they inside the stores where the explosions seemed to come from, or just placed against the fronts but still on the street? And again, how the **** does no one notice this? The first one was literally right at the end point of the run, where there were lots of security and folks working the marathon. It's just amazing to me that not one, but two such devices could be placed there and not be seen.
6 Quart is the small size pressure cooker. CLICK4PIC. Remove the handle and it wouldn't look like anything more than a pile of books in a backpack. But there were two.


It's still pretty large though. I think that picture is the 4 qt one, so the size comparison is off a bit. We're talking about something that's nearly a foot in diameter and solid. It's going to look a lot more bulky than a bag with books in it, and frankly, why would someone have a bag with books in it at a marathon? I could see packs with water bottles or some such, but we're basically talking about a large metal pot inside a bag. How did someone just walk over to the area right near the finish line, carrying something like that, set it down behind where everyone was and then walk away and no one noticed? The area where the first explosion happened also looked to be behind a security barrier as well (at least some kind of fence thingie). I have no clue how security was set up, but I'd expect that the area right in front of the finish line would be more secure than some random point on the street, and it looked like there were a lot of cops around.

Obviously, someone *did* manage to do this. It's just surprising that they weren't spotted. I'd think that "big bulky duffle bag with something large and solid in it" would be incredibly out of place at a foot race. Enough so that you'd think someone would pay attention and perhaps notice when said person with the out of place bag sets it down and walks away. I'm kinda hoping someone saw something I guess.
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Supposedly they used gunpowder as the explosive element. So much for military grade explosives.


Still looks like too big of a blast, even if they used modern powder rather than black powder. I dunno, maybe they salted it with aluminum powder too. but the forensics don't lie so if they said it was powder, it was probably powder.
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I think that picture is the 4 qt one, so the size comparison is off a bit.
6qt pressure cooker is 11.675 x 13.375 x 13.25. You can fit it in a sportsbag which is generally 24.0 x 12.0 x 12.5 .
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I could see packs with water bottles or some such, but we're basically talking about a large metal pot inside a bag.
You ever run 25 miles? You bring water, you bring electrolyte replacements, you bring food, towels, change of clothes, bandages, gauze, second pair of shoes, icy hot. You take a lot with you. It's a pretty common sight.

Edited, Apr 16th 2013 9:48pm by lolgaxe
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I'm used to retardedness from the usual suspects, but this event has turned some of you into god **** freepers...
I don't know about Peimei much as I tend to scroll past his/her posts, but rdm had always been off his rocker.


I've always just attributed his tendency towards sanctimonious prattle to marijuana.

This. He's stoned. He's ALWAYS stoned. Why in the **** does anyone read his sh*t??
People read Gbaji's and Alma's walls of sh*t, surely you can't be surprised that people read Rdmcandie's posts too.

I thought Joph, Smash and this new Rachel person were the only ones. There are others??

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Let's not get foolish here. Check the nationality of the roster's of the teams winning.

Done? Yup, that's right, over 50% Canadians. You aren't better at our national pastime, you just pay better for it.


How does our 3rd world country with our crumbling economy do it?!!
They're Canadians, so they don't have to pay for healthcare, they just use it when they play in Canadian cities. Also, you have dwarves.
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It's still pretty large though. I think that picture is the 4 qt one, so the size comparison is off a bit. We're talking about something that's nearly a foot in diameter and solid. It's going to look a lot more bulky than a bag with books in it, and frankly, why would someone have a bag with books in it at a marathon?

First of all, literally hundreds of thousands of people carry backpacks large enough to conceal this device in the city, daily. There was no way to prevent this, there is no way to prevent it from happening again, today. It's part of the risk you have to accept to not live in a totalitarian police state, if someone wants to kill or injure random people, they can. Trivially. They almost always are caught, that's the deterrent we rely on. The same one that prevents people from just stabbing strangers to death walking down the street. If that deterrent fails, people die. That's what happened. There is no "solution".
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I thought that bombing brown people was the solution. Smiley: frown
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That can't be the solution to everything. I don't think there's enough brown people in Boston to justify bombing it.

To prevent bombing. Modern warfare in a nutshell.
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I thought that's why you bomb brown people overseas.
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Boston's secret weapon is the lamp post. They're there on every sidewalk, every 50ft, immobile, blending into the hub-bub until they're all but forgotten. They patiently wait for that perfect victim. Then they attack - ruthlessly. There is no preparing for the assault, nor is there a proven defensive tactic to lessen the damage.

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It's just surprising that they weren't spotted. I'd think that "big bulky duffle bag with something large and solid in it" would be incredibly out of place at a foot race.

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No it wouldn't.

You don't get to many races do you? Virtually everyone is going to have a larger bag like at big backpack or a gym bag, or at minimum every coach, trainer, etc. You're going to have warm ups, extra shoes (many runners wont race in the same shoes they warm up in, and you aren't wearing one of those 2 pairs home, especially if you have some nasty blisters), perhaps a change of clothes, food and water (Gatorade and those energy pouch things?), some kind of first aid kit, all of your personal items (wallet, keys, phone, etc). They're going to be in some kind of gym bag or backpack, and many of them are going to be quite large. You can't run with it obviously, so you're going to hand it to your spouse/coach/family who are going to have it near the end of the race for you when you finish. It's probably heavy so they're going to set it down at some point.

Go to any race and I promise you'll see dozens if not hundreds of them; 27,000 runners means 27,000 bags.

Which one has the bomb?

Edited, Apr 17th 2013 8:44am by someproteinguy
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The one with a pressure cooker in it, obviously.

Speaking of, I'm not really sure I understand the source of some media types mocking the whole pressure cooker angle. Yesterday, when they determined that a pressure cooker was used as the "body" of the bomb, state and federal authorities sent out messages to other cities and officials saying "Hey, be on the watch for this stuff".

To me, this makes perfect sense. If it was an on-going effort, it stands to reason they're going to stick with what works and not reinvent their bomb for each occasion. Thus, if you found a random bag with a pressure cooker in somewhere beyond a Bed Bath & Beyond, it should be regarded with above average suspicion. Others apparently thought this was the jumping off point for "lololpressure cooker... government is soooo stupid what losers".

I guess some folks just need an angle.
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If I were to joke about/mock it, I'd mention the Mooninites.

Edited, Apr 17th 2013 11:55am by lolgaxe
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#139rdmcandie, Posted: Apr 17 2013 at 10:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Anyone hear about the suspicious letter to Obama. Just a day after a poisoned letter was found addressed to a Senator.
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Its like 9/11 all over...worked so nice, lets try it twice.


It's exactly like 9/11.


Fuckin' uncanny.
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Its like 9/11 all over...worked so nice, lets try it twice.
It's exactly like 9/11.

Aside from the 3,000-odd dead?
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A plane is kind of like a pressure cooker when it slams into a building.
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Its like 9/11 all over...worked so nice, lets try it twice.


It's exactly like 9/11.


Fuckin' uncanny.

Going through that worried panic again while trying to get in touch with my family brought a couple of flashbacks to 9/11. Thankfully this time it took all of 2 minutes to reach everyone, unlike before where we were left wondering for a couple of days about my uncle.

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A plane is kind of like a pressure cooker when it slams into a building.
Planes are really big, though. People should have seen it easily. Easily preventable, yo. We should get a few IT people on National Security.
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It's exactly like 9/11.

Aside from the 3,000-odd dead?


Yes aside from the details, I was simply addressing the order of events.

9/11
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Mail found with Anthrax

4/15
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Poisoned Letter found, suspicious letter found.
I bet suspicious letters arrive at the white house daily. They only become newsworthy after a tragedy.



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On a more serious note (more serious than planes in duffel bags anyway), the "suspicious substance" in the letter to Obama tested positive for ricin.

Edit: I maybe take that back. Conflicting reports.

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Ricin is made from castor beans, and the main exporter is China. I bet the letter read "PAY YOUR BILL!"
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A suspect has been identified, apparently. Local news just started reporting it.

http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive
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