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#1 Mar 22 2013 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
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The letter from Saeed Abedini to his wife described in detail how he's been mistreated at Iran's notorious Evin Prison. He described how he saw his face for the first time in the mirror of an elevator.

"I said hi to the person staring back at me because I did not recognize myself," Abedini wrote. "My hair was shaven, under my eyes were swollen three times what they should have been, my face was swollen, and my beard had grown."

The pastor explained how, despite his situation, he is trying to focus on "forgiveness." He said he forgave the "interrogator who beat me" as well as the doctor who "did not give me the medication that I needed."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/22/kerry-calls-for-immediate-release-american-from-iranian-prison-after-letter/#ixzz2OKR0lVpQ


http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/ - Find Your Representative and ask they continue to place pressure on Iran to release this man.

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Are there really any House reps who are like "Eh, just let him rot..."
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Are there really any House reps who are like "Eh, just let him rot..."


Up until this last week, the White House was ignoring the issue. The best way to place pressure on the White House is to put pressure on your representatives. Doing nothing is tantamount to saying "Ehh, just let him rot."
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"...Eh, just let him rot..."




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The best way to place pressure on the White House is to put pressure on your representatives.
In theory.
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We may be reaping what we sow on this one.

Do you mean when we sow fields with the big bags of cash that would obviously exchange hands here if this is consummated?
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The best way to place pressure on the White House is to put pressure on your representatives.

Hahahahahahaha. Oh, Mr. Smith, you're so quaint. Your representative doesn't give a fuck about you or this guy. What is it you imagine happens? First of all there are usually around 11 staffers between your letter and your representative. You don't have to find one of them that thinks your issue is important, you have to find 11 of them who do. Trust me on this, 10 of them throw anything on this issue in the trash, with the possible exception of reps with actual ties to the guy.
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Staffers won't just throw a letter in the trash unless it is about chem trails or HAARP or the illuminati
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Staffers won't just throw a letter in the trash unless it is about chem trails or HAARP or the illuminati

That's true, they'll send a "thank you for expressing your concern about this very important issue" form letter first.
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Staffers won't just throw a letter in the trash unless it is about chem trails or HAARP or the illuminati

That's true, they'll send a "thank you for expressing your concern about this very important issue" form letter first.


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#12 Mar 25 2013 at 9:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Staffers won't just throw a letter in the trash unless it is about chem trails or HAARP or the illuminati

That's true, they'll send a "thank you for expressing your concern about this very important issue" form letter first.
They value our input, my form letter said that exactly. It was even signed!! Well, it was a stored and printed signature, but I'm sure it was added by whoever wrote it in the first place, after due consideration. Smiley: nod

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So he was preaching, they didn't like it and threw him in jail? Why are we getting messed up in this again? Smiley: confused

I mean it's nice he's a dual citizen and all, but it seems like this is more trouble than it's worth.
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So he was preaching, they didn't like it and threw him in jail? Why are we getting messed up in this again? Smiley: confused

I mean it's nice he's a dual citizen and all, but it seems like this is more trouble than it's worth.


So Kerry can have an "accomplishment" early in his tenure because he wants to run in '14. Don't be silly, what other reason is there?
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So Kerry can have an "accomplishment" early in his tenure because he wants to run in '14. Don't be silly, what other reason is there?

I guess I was hoping for something more; they could at least throw in some nuclear smuggling or something. The whole Iran storyline is showing its age.
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I guess I was hoping for something more; they could at least throw in some nuclear smuggling or something. The whole Iran storyline is showing its age.

I agree that it was better with 9 foot tall kings and mutant blade hand giants.
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they could at least throw in some nuclear smuggling or something.
Been done.
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they could at least throw in some nuclear smuggling or something.
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Staffers won't just throw a letter in the trash unless it is about chem trails or HAARP or the illuminati

That's true, they'll send a "thank you for expressing your concern about this very important issue" form letter first.
Hey, when I was in grade school, Bill Clinton sent me a form letter in response to my apparent concern about smokestack pollution. I also got autographed pictures of himself and Al Gore.

So, you might also get an autographed photo.

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Staffers won't just throw a letter in the trash unless it is about chem trails or HAARP or the illuminati

That's true, they'll send a "thank you for expressing your concern about this very important issue" form letter first.


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Maybe this is a difference between countries with non compulsory voting, and countries with compulsory voting. In Australia, if you send a letter to your representative or an Executive, the politician assumes that statistically 59 other constituents agree with the letter, but have not bothered to write in to say so. Emails are barely multiplied, because they are so much easier to do on the spur of the moment. But their opinion on a matter is still at least collated statistically by a staffer as free poll information.
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Maybe this is a difference between countries with non compulsory voting, and countries with compulsory voting. In Australia, if you send a letter to your representative or an Executive, the politician assumes that statistically 59 other constituents agree with the letter, but have not bothered to write in to say so.

Then they send a form letter and throw your sin the trash. That said, it's a better system, structurally. Too bad is easily as corrupt as ours.
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Maybe this is a difference between countries with non compulsory voting, and countries with compulsory voting. In Australia, if you send a letter to your representative or an Executive, the politician assumes that statistically 59 other constituents agree with the letter, but have not bothered to write in to say so.

Then they send a form letter and throw your sin the trash. That said, it's a better system, structurally. Too bad is easily as corrupt as ours.

Yeah, I really don't like that. Smiley: frown Two present glaring examples of corruption are how stalled up action on ACC is, and how we treat our Asylum seekers that arrive by boat. (Union bosses don't like refugees, they have this "common sense" delusion that they inflate the unemployment numbers significantly for long periods of time, contrary to all statistical evidence.)
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Staffers won't just throw a letter in the trash unless it is about chem trails or HAARP or the illuminati

That's true, they'll send a "thank you for expressing your concern about this very important issue" form letter first.


Typically they put the letter into an excel file as a issue tally mark when it's reelection time. So, while your singular letter is worth very little, it can be useful for marketing purposes.
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Typically they put the letter into an excel file as a issue tally mark when it's reelection time. So, while your singular letter is worth very little, it can be useful for marketing purposes.

If no one with money cares, yes. If you're very concerned about when they declare National Potato Day, you can really have a lot of influence.
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To coincide with back to school, pushed by the Potato Lobby, or Big Spud as we refer to them. I was trying to think of something no special interests cared about, but that's harder than it seems.
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Typically they put the letter into an excel file as a issue tally mark when it's reelection time. So, while your singular letter is worth very little, it can be useful for marketing purposes.

If no one with money cares, yes. If you're very concerned about when they declare National Potato Day, you can really have a lot of influence.


There is a rough calculus where money is compared to voter opinion. If 10M gives a +2% gain when supporting an issue would give a +/- .1% swing, money wins. If its the opposite, it doesnt. I assume you know this and are commenting on the skewed valuation caused by issue aggregation in our political system.
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Actually, I've received personalized responses from my Representatives before. Saying that your voice isn't and never will be heard is a cop out to do nothing. A squeaky wheel will get oiled. You just have to be resilient and persistent.

The reason nobody gets heard is because everyone quits after the first obstruction.
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With their stellar performances in Best Korea, I'd think we would have already put to use our amazing negotiating team of Bubba Clinton and Dennis Rodman.
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Actually, I've received personalized responses from my Representatives before.
I sent an e-mail to mine once and got a phone call from him a few days later. Was quite shocked.
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I sent an e-mail to mine once and got a phone call from him a few days later. Was quite shocked.

Yeah, that happened to me too actually. We didn't end up agreeing, but I was certainly impressed.
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Smiley: nod My rep is NDP, so I think it's pretty clear we didn't agree either, but the fact that he took the time to call was most impressive.
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The reason nobody gets heard is because everyone quits after the first obstruction.

No, the reason is that the voice of the individual isn't very important. I agree that it's far easier to throw ones hands up and shout "if only people cared more" as the reason tiny interest groups are still catered to almost exclusively by legislators, but really it's the money. Sorry. The problem with US democracy isn't apathy, it's that structurally it's intentionally designed to reward wealthy groups or individuals. This hardly makes it unique, of course, but really unless you advocate for an issue that almost no one cares about the best thing you can do is GIVE MONEY to a group that has professional lobbyists. Don't do your own dentistry, and don't try to interact directly with your elected representative.
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I was out for lunch yesterday with some co-workers and our US congresscritter Mike Michaud was at the restaurant sitting by himself eating lunch. I really wanted to invite him over to join us, but was voted down by the other two at my table.
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I get letters about congresscritters and their positions on defense related matters like the abysmal state of the VA and their undying support and their appreciation of what we do and such. I figure it's easier than examining the actual issues.
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Back during the health care debate, I called my Congresscritter and left a note of encouragement for her to vote in favor. After that, I was invited to several telephonic "Town Hall" events although none ever fit my schedule.

Contacting either of my senators has always just gotten me a form letter (e-mail) a couple weeks later. Usually one only tangentially connected to whatever I said when I contacted them. Obviously senators have a lot more people to attend to than House reps (unless you live in a one district state).
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I was out for lunch yesterday with some co-workers and our US congresscritter Mike Michaud was at the restaurant sitting by himself eating lunch.

He probably just got back from Ottowa. I will submit that some of my comments apply to Reps who live in populated areas and have constituents who are mostly not moose.

ETA: Nice guy, I hear, though. Nexa's met him. Does have the shortcoming of having been born in Maine, which usually doesn't take you far in Maine politics.

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#40Palpitus1, Posted: Apr 18 2013 at 3:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sure. Also find your Representative and ask they continue to place pressure on the United States to release a hundred or so innocent humans from Gitmo. Who have also been abused. If you give a **** about consistency, of course.
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