Hilary released this video today.....
Campaigning or just speaking out prior to the SCOTUS hearings on the constitutionality of DOMA scheduled for later this month?
She looks tired. Hope she's up for this whole presidential race thing.
Edit - got it!
Edited, Mar 18th 2013 6:40pm by Elinda
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Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Too early to play the Who Wants To Be A Figurehead game.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
She looks tired. Hope she's up for this whole presidential race thing.
Let's hope so. The baggage she brings to a general election isn't worth the name recognition.
Let's hope so. The baggage she brings to a general election isn't worth the name recognition.
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Smasharoo wrote:
[b]The baggage she brings to a general election isn't worth the name recognition.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
No, SwissGear.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Are you talking about Bill?
Not exclusively, but yes. "I had led the country to massive cuts in social safety nets, lower taxes for the wealthy, signed a law that made gay marriage non portable between states, and took advice from **** Morris very seriously. Obviously I'm a liberal icon."
Not exclusively, but yes. "I had led the country to massive cuts in social safety nets, lower taxes for the wealthy, signed a law that made gay marriage non portable between states, and took advice from **** Morris very seriously. Obviously I'm a liberal icon."
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Oh, I thought they were talking about her Vuitton and Imelda Marcos-like shoe collection.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Continuing on the idea of the SCotUS and SSM... the court is hearing arguments on Prop 8 today, and DOMA tomorrow. Early reports seem to say that they'll decline to rule on Prop 8, effectively making its overturn from the lower courts binding and once again allowing gay marriage in CA.
Frankly, this is how the entire thing should go: http://www.theonion.com/articles/supreme-court-on-gay-marriage-sure-who-cares,31812/
In other news, seemingly most of my facebook friends are changing their profile pictures to red "=" signs. I blame George Takei.
Frankly, this is how the entire thing should go: http://www.theonion.com/articles/supreme-court-on-gay-marriage-sure-who-cares,31812/
In other news, seemingly most of my facebook friends are changing their profile pictures to red "=" signs. I blame George Takei.
You don't blame Mr. Sulu for anything.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Continuing on the idea of the SCotUS and SSM... the court is hearing arguments on Prop 8 today, and DOMA tomorrow. Early reports seem to say that they'll decline to rule on Prop 8, effectively making its overturn from the lower courts binding and once again allowing gay marriage in CA.
Early reports are almost always wrong. There's not really a baby to cut in half here, the Prop 8 thing is mostly the sideshow, if they invalidate DOMA the game's over. There's a real argument there's no standing for the Prop 8 plaintiffs, they might go that way to avoid forcing Alabama to start marrying people, they probably won't uphold DOMA, so the rich Alabamans can still go to Boston or wherever and get married and then return to Alabama and claim full rights.
I'd guess they'll go with a broader validation of SSM, but it's not usually wise to underestimate the cowardice of the conservative wing on human rights issues.
Early reports are almost always wrong. There's not really a baby to cut in half here, the Prop 8 thing is mostly the sideshow, if they invalidate DOMA the game's over. There's a real argument there's no standing for the Prop 8 plaintiffs, they might go that way to avoid forcing Alabama to start marrying people, they probably won't uphold DOMA, so the rich Alabamans can still go to Boston or wherever and get married and then return to Alabama and claim full rights.
I'd guess they'll go with a broader validation of SSM, but it's not usually wise to underestimate the cowardice of the conservative wing on human rights issues.
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Yeah I saw that as well.
The DOMA hearing isn't about Prop 8, but about an 86 year old woman who got socked with a $350K inheritance tax bill because while the state of NY recognized her marriage of to her late partner of 40 years, the federal US government did not. And so she sued, in the grand American tradition.
Her argument is that if she had been married to a man, she would have been exempt from the estate tax.
If any argument to the conservatives is going to convince them to strike down DOMA, this would probably be it. It's going to be interesting how it all plays out.
The DOMA hearing isn't about Prop 8, but about an 86 year old woman who got socked with a $350K inheritance tax bill because while the state of NY recognized her marriage of to her late partner of 40 years, the federal US government did not. And so she sued, in the grand American tradition.
Her argument is that if she had been married to a man, she would have been exempt from the estate tax.
If any argument to the conservatives is going to convince them to strike down DOMA, this would probably be it. It's going to be interesting how it all plays out.
#12gbaji,
Posted: Mar 26 2013 at 1:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That it will be, regardless of outcome.
I can never tell if gbaji is serious or just the most committed goddamn troll on the internet.
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Neither. A committed troll isn't so easily noticed.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
ITT: Conservatives only think straight people are taxed enough already and deserve more tax breaks.
Gay people? TAX THE NANCIES.
Gay people? TAX THE NANCIES.
#16gbaji,
Posted: Mar 26 2013 at 2:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Conservatives recognize that if you create a tax break for say buying an electric car, it's because the government wants to encourage people to drive electric cars. We also believe that the government should only do this if there is some overriding socio-economic reason to do so. We don't consider the fact that a gas guzzler doesn't get the same tax break unfair because the whole point of the tax break is to reward people for buying more energy efficient cars.
IT'S JUST OBVIOUS!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
catwho wrote:
ITT: Conservatives only think straight people are taxed enough already and deserve more tax breaks.
Conservatives recognize that if you create a tax break for say buying an electric car, it's because the government wants to encourage people to drive electric cars. We also believe that the government should only do this if there is some overriding socio-economic reason to do so. We don't consider the fact that a gas guzzler doesn't get the same tax break unfair because the whole point of the tax break is to reward people for buying more energy efficient cars.
We may disagree on whether the reward/incentive should exist, but at least we don't fail to recognize why it exists in the first place and rationally assess why one type of car should get it and not another. Please tell me you can grasp why this applies here.
remorajunbao wrote:
One day I'm going to fly to Canada and open the curtains in your office.
Is this thread about gay sex not making babies yet?
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#20gbaji,
Posted: Mar 26 2013 at 2:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You'd have a point if we were giving the tax break to the cars.
someproteinguy wrote:
Is this thread about gay sex not making babies yet?
No, it's about there not even being the potential for babies. 'Cause, you know, straight couples who don't/can't/won't have kids still totally deserve full marriage benefits, but gay couples raising children don't.
Back in facebook news, I've seen a few people putting up red ">" signs. While some are posting them with captions like "I stand with God; homosexual marriage is NOT equal; traditional marriage is greater!", it seems like a few are taking the opposite approach: saying SSM is just a step to "greater" acceptance of homosexuals in society.
Oh, facebook. You silly, silly social media platform.
Edited, Mar 26th 2013 4:30pm by LockeColeMA
Time to change my Facebook picture to display a green square root symbol.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Time to change my Facebook picture to display a green square root symbol.
... because you're "rooting" for gay marriage, AMIRITE!?
#24gbaji,
Posted: Mar 26 2013 at 2:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's not about deserving. It's about avoiding negative behavior as much as possible. When a member of a gay couple accidentally gets impregnated by the other and the government has to get involved to force the other to take responsibility for the child, I'll be the first in line to demand that we apply marriage status to gay couples. For me, it's not about liking or disliking a given type of couple, but the physical and legal realities of the situation.
gbaji wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
Is this thread about gay sex not making babies yet?
No, it's about there not even being the potential for babies. 'Cause, you know, straight couples who don't/can't/won't have kids still totally deserve full marriage benefits, but gay couples raising children don't.
It's not about deserving. It's about avoiding negative behavior as much as possible.
Negative behavior like discriminating against people for being different than you?
Edited, Mar 26th 2013 5:01pm by cidbahamut
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#26gbaji,
Posted: Mar 26 2013 at 3:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) All laws discriminate. It's important to have a system in which the discrimination is *not* based on liking or not liking a given group of people. If you hold a position on gay marriage because you frame it in terms of being for or against homosexuals, you are encouraging exactly the wrong type of system. Do you really want to have a government that does things that way? Think carefully about your answer.
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