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#1 Mar 14 2013 at 9:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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I know I don't post a lot these days, but I have mentioned a time or two that I was going to school. I had an associate's degree from back in the day, but after seeing increased requirements for IT positions that require a Bachelor's (rather than just preferred) I decided to go back and finish it. For the last 18 months or so I've been attending CSU - Global Campus, which is a sister school to Colorado State University offering strictly on-line education. Essentially, they condense 12 weeks of coursework into an 8 week term, and you can take two classes each term. It consists mainly of writing many papers, participating in message boards, and taking weekly quizzes. Final projects are longer papers that typically make up about a third of your grade.

Anyway, I got my congratulatory acceptance letter this week and they're mailing me my shiny new degree; a B.S. in Information Technology. So this is me basically patting myself on the back... and perhaps moving lower for a happy ending. It'll be nice to have all my free time back, guess I'll have to find a new hobby.
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#2 Mar 14 2013 at 9:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Grats.

Have fun paying off the loans.
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#3 Mar 14 2013 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyway, I got my congratulatory acceptance letter this week and they're mailing me my shiny new degree; a B.S. in Information Technology.

Enjoy your move to Mumbai!
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#4 Mar 14 2013 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
Grats.

Have fun paying off the loans.


No loans. I paid it as I went.


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Anyway, I got my congratulatory acceptance letter this week and they're mailing me my shiny new degree; a B.S. in Information Technology.

Enjoy your move to Mumbai!


Hey, I hear they have good food there.
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#5 Mar 14 2013 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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Masala bhaat is pretty tasty.
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#6 Mar 14 2013 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kakar wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
Grats.

Have fun paying off the loans.


No loans. I paid it as I went.

You're doing it wrong. Can't become a jobless leech complaining about big business sucking the world dry if you don't have student loans. Smiley: disappointed

Double-grats on that btw. Smiley: thumbsup
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Double-grats on that btw. Smiley: thumbsup


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#8 Mar 14 2013 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
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Congrats!

My husband finished his PhD without any loans. Now he continues to mooch off the taxpayers of Georgia by being a college professor.

Did you specialize in anything, or are you an IT all arounder like me?
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Did you specialize in anything, or are you an IT all arounder like me?


The answer better be big data analytics if you want to be employed in 10 years in the US.
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#10 Mar 14 2013 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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Did you specialize in anything, or are you an IT all arounder like me?


No specialization, just the standard B.S., all-round sounds about right when describing me.
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No specialization, just the standard B.S., all-round sounds about right when describing me.

Get another degree. Really. You have the modern equivalent of a high school diploma in 1990. It's an accomplishment, and good job and all that, but don't be done with education now.
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If you truly want to be a specialist in big data analytics I think a statistics degree is more relevant.
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If you truly want to be a specialist in big data analytics I think a statistics degree is more relevant.

9 out of 10 statisticians might agree. They'd be wrong, though. Few higher level degrees are relevant to non research work directly. Techniques change all the time, that's not why he should get another degree. He should get another degree to make him more easily hireable/promotable. Get an MBA, it's easy and all the kids are doing it.
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I just want to thank you guys. As I had a thread a few weeks ago about finally going back to school as a Network Specialist. This thread has me worried that the associates isn't going to be enough to find a decent job in the field.

Way to go scaring off the newbies...
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I just want to thank you guys. As I had a thread a few weeks ago about finally going back to school as a Network Specialist. This thread has me worried that the associates isn't going to be enough to find a decent job in the field.

It won't be. The good news is neither will a BS. What does a "Network Specialist" do? I mean I can imagine, what I can't do is imagine why I'd need a person to do any of that in the BYOD world 10 years from now is going to very likely be. Be an air traffic controller or something. Or a juggler. Juggling robots are boring. On the other hand, juggling robots is awesome.
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I dunno, my friend works for a networking consulting company, and they are constantly hiring idiots that can barely manage a level 1 help desk. They have a guy that's been working there for a year, and while at a client's office trying to fix their ****, had to call in for help because his own laptop kept typing numbers instead of letters (he had numlock on). So uh, there's at least one place you could get a job.
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A Network Specialist, is s specialist in networking computers. And I ffigured anywhere where there is 2 or more computers that need to be networked would probably have some sort of work. I mean, point of sales at Walmarts crash, web servers crash or have errors, Work servers and VPNs need to be configured. **** even the basic having to run the network and set it up physically at new job sites.

I understand now days the software is much easier to use, but even then there is issues, and you have to know what ports to keep open etc.

I mean I don't know everything about the field but I understand the basics.

As for being a robot juggler, I thought about it, but the entry cost to replace my arms with robot ones is just to restrictive. Maybe in the near future when costs comes down. just maybe.


And After writing all this I realize your just trolling and I'm a noob.
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A Network Specialist, is s specialist in networking computers. And I ffigured anywhere where there is 2 or more computers that need to be networked would probably have some sort of work. I mean, point of sales at Walmarts crash, web servers crash or have errors, Work servers and VPNs need to be configured. **** even the basic having to run the network and set it up physically at new job sites.

I understand now days the software is much easier to use, but even then there is issues, and you have to know what ports to keep open etc.

I mean I don't know everything about the field but I understand the basics.

As for being a robot juggler, I thought about it, but the entry cost to replace my arms with robot ones is just to restrictive. Maybe in the near future when costs comes down. just maybe.


And After writing all this I realize your just trolling and I'm a noob.


Have you considered an ESL degree? That might be more worthwhile. I wasn't really joking, though, 50,000 kids with a better education will be able to your job remotely from Bangalore for $2 an hour. Companies are moving away from in house support, and in many ways away from in house networks. Get a real degree. Or don't. Learn a trade. Be a plumber, they do ok, and the skill set is surprisingly similar to what you're looking at now. You do have to occasionally deal with a lot of **** on the job...but not if you become a plumber! Hey! Try the veal.
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They haven't invented a way to physically replace stuff remotely yet.

They will always need a local guy who knows how to run the cables to the right place.

On that note, we bill one of our clients about twenty three dollars every day because their VPN connection to a hospital sixty miles away needs to be reset, and they cannot trust anyone in their own MRI department enough to give them the credentials needed to log into the firewall and reset it. I do it in two minutes flat. The connection issue is always on the other end, though, so I hope they're passing the bill along to the other guys...
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I've got another month and a half till I'm done 3 years of computer engineering. Now this thread has made me depressed.
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Smiley: clap Congratulations Kakar!
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They will always need a local guy who knows how to run the cables to the right place.

Cables? Do they drive their cable cart horses hard with their buggy whips? IT infrastructure physical build out is largely unskilled labor. Crimping cat 6 cable doesn't require a 4 year degree. What you hear at high level IS conferences these days is primarily the transferring of the client side stuff to devices owned by employees. If I log into my work network from my phone that I show up with, and data is held on a server, it costs a company a lot less in maintenance, primarily because they can hire a lot less (none ideally) local employees to maintain networks. The end game is a massive reduction in tech spending, offloaded to employees. Having a device that works will be like having a pencil.

But you know, flying cars, **** happens, who knows how it'll really be in 10 years.
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Cables are so last decade.
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Forget flying cars, I'm more interested in the juggling robots.
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#25 Mar 15 2013 at 8:01 AM Rating: Good
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I've considered continuing on, but not without a break. My boss is already pushing me to do it. As for some of Smash's observations, he's not completely wrong. But IT will evolve, and certainly not all of it will be outsourced. Security is one field that will always be relevant and, if anything, in the BYOD world becomes even more so.

The interesting thing I've seen about outsourcing, is business management seems to be very unsatisfied with the results once they do it. It's all about the level of quality they demand. Sure, outsourcing a helpdesk is easy. You can even outsource DBM as there's plenty DBAs over in India, but that's also where you start to feel the pinch. Our company does that to an extent and is constantly in a cycle of getting new contractors for it as the vast majority of them can't seem to do their jobs right.

WAN management is evolving as well, but there still seems to be a lot of demand for it. From my observation it's mostly due to things not being properly implemented in the first place, or not being updated in a timely fashion. Also in the corporate world of acquisitions every year there is always integration activities to be needed.

In short, don't get discouraged BeanX. Just be aware of how the industry changes so rapidly, and try to stay on top of where your skills will be needed. It's challenging for certain, but that's part of the fun.
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The interesting thing I've seen about outsourcing, is business management seems to be very unsatisfied with the results once they do it

They are. They also aren't doing anything about it because "barely works for $1000" always wins over "works perfectly for $3500" in the market. Infosys can throw thousands of people at things for almost nothing to solve real problems when they occur. Yes, the quality is awful, but it's almost never catastrophic to mission critical stuff. One of the larger problems is that IBM or Deloitte or whoever still throw 22 year old analysts at stuff who frequently know less than their Indian peers, but can bluff through in English more successfully. There are talented high level people at all large consulting firms, but the pattern is usually that the good young talent leaves and sets up smaller more specialized shops. That happens less with the Indian firms, so they seem to be getting stronger the longer they stay in the market. I wouldn't pin my hopes companies suddenly deciding they want the "right and fast" side of the triangle at the expense of "cheap"

Oh, and he should learn Hindi. Not at all joking. That's an incredibly valuable skill in the current market and likely to remain so.

Edited, Mar 15th 2013 10:18am by Smasharoo
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