TirithRR wrote:
When they have a baby changing table... you do that?
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Whether it is there or not, the trash is still usually on the other end of the bathroom.
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What someone's birth certificate says, or what their genitals look like (both of which can be changed by the way) doesn't really matter here. We don't assign bathrooms based on who has a *****, and who has a ******.
Except, that's exactly what we did. The ladies' room is for humans who have vaginas and the (assumed) reproductive parts to go with it, and the gentlemens' room is for humans who have penises and the (assumed) reproductive parts to go with that. No one made that decision based on some imagined hate for a 6 year old transgender kid a couple thousand years into the future.
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Which still boils down to every other woman is allowed in the women's bathroom except those who someone doesn't like.
Or, those women who have penises\************** Again, it's really not about hate. It's about physical anatomy and having some sort of real standards so we aren't opening up exploitation for every Joe who decides to say he's now Jane just so he can get into a girl's bathroom without being questioned. We have a right to be safe too, you know.
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No, you're just being a bigot. If you wish to refer to someone's legally recognized gender, then say that. Calling girls "boys" is just hateful.
It's hateful if someone is really going through the process of changing their gender. Then you are just taking a shot at someone who is already going through a super tough time of being put in the wrong body in the first place. But that doesn't mean that we should just sit here and say, "ok, since we don't want to hurt the feelings of the small percentage of real transgendered people by asking them to use the restroom assigned to their current physical anatomy or a private restroom, men are now allowed to use the ladies' room if they say they are women." I mean, how stupid is that?
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So what is the answer? Personally I think the school had the right of it. The 6 year old clearly has some things she is going to need to work out, but while she is doing that - using the nurses' private bathroom is probably the best way to handle it. For the rest of us, I do think that adding a private restroom to public locations, or just converting them all to private restrooms is the best answer. It will be safer for everyone involved. Women don't have to look over their shoulders and wonder if that person really is a transgender or is in there to rape her because no one thought twice about him entering, transgenders don't even have to answer a question - they just do their business, and everyone wins.
There's usually a little more to being a christian, or democrat than just saying you are.
No true Scotsman believes that.
Sure, there are plenty of people who think they may be trans, but aren't sure. Some of them eventually determine that they are not.
Great, so all the stuff about "it's as unchangeable as the sky being blue" is ******** and you wasted our time? Moderating your position on the fly to fit an individual response is banal. Decide. It's not that challenging. Either gender identity is set in stone like magic, or it isn't. If it is "for some people", but it's literally impossible to determine who, that's useless and equates to "it isn't"
Who said it was? There is a middle ground between something being genetic and unchangeable, like skin color, and being a choice that can be changed at any time for any reason, like what you want to eat for dinner. Some things can be influenced by someone's environment, or choices, but still not be a simple choice for them to make at any time. This is one of those.
Great, then stop all of the absolutist *********
Well, either that, or i've just gotten really sick of being called a man, and came up with it on my own.
Not at all mutually exclusive, are they?
No true Scotsman believes that.
Sure, there are plenty of people who think they may be trans, but aren't sure. Some of them eventually determine that they are not.
Great, so all the stuff about "it's as unchangeable as the sky being blue" is ******** and you wasted our time? Moderating your position on the fly to fit an individual response is banal. Decide. It's not that challenging. Either gender identity is set in stone like magic, or it isn't. If it is "for some people", but it's literally impossible to determine who, that's useless and equates to "it isn't"
Who said it was? There is a middle ground between something being genetic and unchangeable, like skin color, and being a choice that can be changed at any time for any reason, like what you want to eat for dinner. Some things can be influenced by someone's environment, or choices, but still not be a simple choice for them to make at any time. This is one of those.
Great, then stop all of the absolutist *********
Well, either that, or i've just gotten really sick of being called a man, and came up with it on my own.
Not at all mutually exclusive, are they?
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Smasharoo wrote:
There's usually a little more to being a christian, or democrat than just saying you are.
No true Scotsman believes that.
Sure, there are plenty of people who think they may be trans, but aren't sure. Some of them eventually determine that they are not.
Great, so all the stuff about "it's as unchangeable as the sky being blue" is bullsh*t and you wasted our time? Moderating your position on the fly to fit an individual response is banal. Decide. It's not that challenging. Either gender identity is set in stone like magic, or it isn't. If it is "for some people", but it's literally impossible to determine who, that's useless and equates to "it isn't"
No true Scotsman believes that.
Sure, there are plenty of people who think they may be trans, but aren't sure. Some of them eventually determine that they are not.
Great, so all the stuff about "it's as unchangeable as the sky being blue" is bullsh*t and you wasted our time? Moderating your position on the fly to fit an individual response is banal. Decide. It's not that challenging. Either gender identity is set in stone like magic, or it isn't. If it is "for some people", but it's literally impossible to determine who, that's useless and equates to "it isn't"
So if you can't prove it because your attacker didn't leave any marks on your body, it wasn't rape?
Torrence wrote:
For the rest of us, I do think that adding a private restroom to public locations, or just converting them all to private restrooms is the best answer.
It's an expensive answer for something that is almost never an issue.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
So if you can't prove it because your attacker didn't leave any marks on your body, it wasn't rape?
No, and having a mark on your body doesn't prove it was rape. See what a poor metaphor this is, yet?
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Jophiel wrote:
Torrence wrote:
For the rest of us, I do think that adding a private restroom to public locations, or just converting them all to private restrooms is the best answer.
It's an expensive answer for something that is almost never an issue.
Except that it apparantly is an issue. There's a whole national debate on whether a six year old male in a dress should get to use the girls room or have to use the boys room (or a private restroom, as the school suggested).
I got ripped apart on fakebook for having the opinion that the kid should just use the nurses' bathroom - I was a hater, insensitive to LGBT issues, yada yada yada. Did I deserve that abuse? Hell no, but it didn't stop those supposedly "tolerant" people from telling me that I was the worst scum on the earth. If a ******* private bathroom will shut that kind of crap up, that's where my vote goes.
Torrence wrote:
There's a whole national debate
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Almost never an issue? With fossil fuel originated Endocrine Disrupters around everywhere now, Intersex births are now 1 in 1000 in Britain, up from 1 in 100,000 in the 1950s. If America has the same ratios, that's what, about 300,000 intersex people you'll have there in the future. Trying to choose the gender of an intersex baby and giving them genital surgery soon after birth has lead to a lot of disasters. It's now policy to leave the genitals of intersex babies alone, and see what the child "feels like" when they get older. Once they hit late puberty, the child usually feels strongly one way or another about its gender and has the appropriate surgery then.
It's an expensive answer for something that is almost never an issue.
For YOU. In the way gay marriage is almost never an issue for Gbaji. It's an extremely important issue for a lot of people, a basic one that can't be avoided. I don't really know what "family" restroom are for. There are times when Hannah was younger and it was just me and her where she wasn't really old enough to use a women's room alone (without spending an hour playing with motion sensitive sinks at least) and obviously a 4 year old girl can see and hear things in a men's room that you might want to avoid (maybe a women's room too, I wouldn't really know). That seems like a small use case, but they're fairly common. Why isn't that "expensive"?
Nexa spent a long time winning the fight to have a non gendered bathroom at UMaine when she was there, she could assure you with more knowledge than I could how important and significant that is to more people than you'd likely expect.
Edited, Mar 11th 2013 1:22pm by Smasharoo
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Yeah, it's one thing for a big retailer like Target to ensure that all their locations have separate Family restrooms. It's another for the bar down the street to do that.
The more I think about it, the more I have no answer regarding the building question. One bathroom for everyone seems ideal, but that's contingent on societal changes happening that make it a non issue. And I don't see those happening within the next 20 years. At least not sufficiently for a unisex bathroom to eclipse gendered options for utility.
But everyone having 3 restrooms doesn't seem like a good answer, either. That's a big financial strain, particularly on smaller businesses or any building where multiple sets of bathrooms are being built.
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For YOU. In the way gay marriage is almost never an issue for Gbaji. It's an extremely important issue for a lot of people, a basic one that can't be avoided. I don't really know what "family" restroom as for. There are times when Hannah was younger and it was just me and her where she wasn't really old enough to use a women's room alone (without spending an hour playing with motion sensitive sinks at least) and obviously a 4 year old girl can see and hear things in a men's room that you might want to avoid (maybe a women's room too, I wouldn't really know). That seems like a small use case, but they're fairly common. Why isn't that "expensive"?
This is definitely a big pro in the family restroom column. I definitely encourage establishments to build family restrooms. But without having the slightest clue of what that would actually cost, I'm hesitant to expect it.
Edited, Mar 11th 2013 1:23pm by idiggory
The more I think about it, the more I have no answer regarding the building question. One bathroom for everyone seems ideal, but that's contingent on societal changes happening that make it a non issue. And I don't see those happening within the next 20 years. At least not sufficiently for a unisex bathroom to eclipse gendered options for utility.
But everyone having 3 restrooms doesn't seem like a good answer, either. That's a big financial strain, particularly on smaller businesses or any building where multiple sets of bathrooms are being built.
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For YOU. In the way gay marriage is almost never an issue for Gbaji. It's an extremely important issue for a lot of people, a basic one that can't be avoided. I don't really know what "family" restroom as for. There are times when Hannah was younger and it was just me and her where she wasn't really old enough to use a women's room alone (without spending an hour playing with motion sensitive sinks at least) and obviously a 4 year old girl can see and hear things in a men's room that you might want to avoid (maybe a women's room too, I wouldn't really know). That seems like a small use case, but they're fairly common. Why isn't that "expensive"?
This is definitely a big pro in the family restroom column. I definitely encourage establishments to build family restrooms. But without having the slightest clue of what that would actually cost, I'm hesitant to expect it.
Edited, Mar 11th 2013 1:23pm by idiggory
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
But everyone having 3 restrooms doesn't seem like a good answer, either. That's a big financial strain, particularly on smaller businesses or any building where multiple sets of bathrooms are being built.
It really isn't, any more than having separate gender ones is. If you have enough bathroom use to require urinals for efficiency you have enough demand for a non gendered room. Otherwise, have one room with a toilet and a locking door. Problem solved.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Yeah, it's one thing for a big retailer like Target to ensure that all their locations have separate Family restrooms. It's another for the bar down the street to do that.
The more I think about it, the more I have no answer regarding the building question. One bathroom for everyone seems ideal, but that's contingent on societal changes happening that make it a non issue. And I don't see those happening within the next 20 years. At least not sufficiently for a unisex bathroom to eclipse gendered options for utility.
But everyone having 3 restrooms doesn't seem like a good answer, either. That's a big financial strain, particularly on smaller businesses or any building where multiple sets of bathrooms are being built.
The more I think about it, the more I have no answer regarding the building question. One bathroom for everyone seems ideal, but that's contingent on societal changes happening that make it a non issue. And I don't see those happening within the next 20 years. At least not sufficiently for a unisex bathroom to eclipse gendered options for utility.
But everyone having 3 restrooms doesn't seem like a good answer, either. That's a big financial strain, particularly on smaller businesses or any building where multiple sets of bathrooms are being built.
If they are building new, there's no reason not to just build out 3-4 separate private bathrooms in the same space that would house two gender-specific rows of stalls\urinals on the walls. If we are going to continue to have these kinds of discussions and a group of people seriously feel like their rights are being infringed upon... What is else can be done? I don't see people en masse just accepting cross gender restrooms without some measure of privacy and safety\protection against opportunists.
I think the other problem is that building a third, unisex bathroom isn't really the answer. That feels like separate but equal to me. Build a separate "colored" bathroom because the white people don't want them in it. Same difference here. It's one thing if it is the trans people asking for their own restroom. It's another when it's the non-trans people telling them to use it.
That's not to say I don't like the idea of a third unisex bathroom. I think there's a place for it. But I don't think it's the answer for the trans issue.
That's not to say I don't like the idea of a third unisex bathroom. I think there's a place for it. But I don't think it's the answer for the trans issue.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
I think the other problem is that building a third, unisex bathroom isn't really the answer. That feels like separate but equal to me
It is. So is me not being able to use the women's room with it's amazing lounge, stylish bartenders and free concierge service. There are practical limits to equality.
It is. So is me not being able to use the women's room with it's amazing lounge, stylish bartenders and free concierge service. There are practical limits to equality.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I think the other problem is that building a third, unisex bathroom isn't really the answer. That feels like separate but equal to me. Build a separate "colored" bathroom because the white people don't want them in it. Same difference here. It's one thing if it is the trans people asking for their own restroom. It's another when it's the non-trans people telling them to use it.
That's not to say I don't like the idea of a third unisex bathroom. I think there's a place for it. But I don't think it's the answer for the trans issue.
That's not to say I don't like the idea of a third unisex bathroom. I think there's a place for it. But I don't think it's the answer for the trans issue.
Well, it's less about forcing transgenders to use it and more about having a third, private option for anyone to use. Better yet get rid of em all and just build private restrooms in place of what used to be gender-separated boys and girls rooms. Then no one can complain.
Well, it's less about forcing transgenders to use it and more about having a third, private option for anyone to use. Better yet get rid of em all and just build private restrooms in place of what used to be gender-separated boys and girls rooms. Then no one can complain.
Apparently, men using such unisex bathrooms as places to assault or ogle women, who as we know are made of tissue paper and fear, is such a common thing that it's economically more desirable to build separate restrooms. It's not a rare and unusual case like a TG person having to ****.
Apparently, men using such unisex bathrooms as places to assault or ogle women, who as we know are made of tissue paper and fear, is such a common thing that it's economically more desirable to build separate restrooms. It's not a rare and unusual case like a TG person having to ****.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Torrence wrote:
Except that it apparantly is an issue. There's a whole national debate on whether a six year old male in a dress should get to use the girls room or have to use the boys room (or a private restroom, as the school suggested).
The fact that there's a national debate over one kid would indicate that it's NOT a wide-spread issue.
Aripyanfar wrote:
Almost never an issue?
Yes, almost never an issue. If it should become one, then it'll become one. It's not now.
Smasharoo wrote:
For YOU. In the way gay marriage is almost never an issue for Gbaji. It's an extremely important issue for a lot of people, a basic one that can't be avoided. I don't really know what "family" restroom are for. There are times when Hannah was younger and it was just me and her where she wasn't really old enough to use a women's room alone (without spending an hour playing with motion sensitive sinks at least) and obviously a 4 year old girl can see and hear things in a men's room that you might want to avoid (maybe a women's room too, I wouldn't really know). That seems like a small use case, but they're fairly common. Why isn't that "expensive"?
I'm honestly not sure what you're saying here. I have no issue with "family" restrooms. I don't believe that ALL restrooms should be made in that fashion. It takes up considerably more space and money than a big room with three or four stalls and a couple of sinks. Hence me saying that "converting them all to private restrooms" is an expensive solution to something that is almost never an issue.
As Torrence said, I don't think that anyone using the family restroom is "Separate but equal". No one is forcing them to use it; it's being provided for convenience.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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Except, that's exactly what we did. The ladies' room is for humans who have vaginas and the (assumed) reproductive parts to go with it, and the gentlemens' room is for humans who have penises and the (assumed) reproductive parts to go with that. No one made that decision based on some imagined hate for a 6 year old transgender kid a couple thousand years into the future.
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Great, so all the stuff about "it's as unchangeable as the sky being blue" is bullsh*t and you wasted our time? Moderating your position on the fly to fit an individual response is banal. Decide. It's not that challenging. Either gender identity is set in stone like magic, or it isn't. If it is "for some people", but it's literally impossible to determine who, that's useless and equates to "it isn't"
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
The sky's color changes all the time. But when it's blue, it's blue. When it's black, it's black. It may not be 10 minutes later, and it may not have been 10 minutes prior, but at any given time, it is what it is.
I'd like you to take this and print it out and bring it to your mental health professional. Me telling you what you're doing won't do you any good. Maybe the two of you can work through it together. At any rate, we've concluded our discussion now. Good luck with your life and it's challenges, sorry about that extra cock you got stuck with, hope everything goes well.
I'd like you to take this and print it out and bring it to your mental health professional. Me telling you what you're doing won't do you any good. Maybe the two of you can work through it together. At any rate, we've concluded our discussion now. Good luck with your life and it's challenges, sorry about that extra cock you got stuck with, hope everything goes well.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
I'm honestly not sure what you're saying here. I have no issue with "family" restrooms. I don't believe that ALL restrooms should be made in that fashion. It takes up considerably more space and money than a big room with three or four stalls and a couple of sinks. Hence me saying that "converting them all to private restrooms" is an expensive solution to something that is almost never an issue.
Right, because removing the signs and putting new ones up would bankrupt almost any organization.
Right, because removing the signs and putting new ones up would bankrupt almost any organization.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
You think you convert a large room with four stalls along one wall and a couple sinks along the other into four small individual restrooms by changing signs?
And no one said "bankrupt". Said the cost wasn't worth the benefit for the size of the issue.
Edited, Mar 11th 2013 1:15pm by Jophiel
And no one said "bankrupt". Said the cost wasn't worth the benefit for the size of the issue.
Edited, Mar 11th 2013 1:15pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Torrence wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I think the other problem is that building a third, unisex bathroom isn't really the answer. That feels like separate but equal to me. Build a separate "colored" bathroom because the white people don't want them in it. Same difference here. It's one thing if it is the trans people asking for their own restroom. It's another when it's the non-trans people telling them to use it.
That's not to say I don't like the idea of a third unisex bathroom. I think there's a place for it. But I don't think it's the answer for the trans issue.
That's not to say I don't like the idea of a third unisex bathroom. I think there's a place for it. But I don't think it's the answer for the trans issue.
Well, it's less about forcing transgenders to use it and more about having a third, private option for anyone to use. Better yet get rid of em all and just build private restrooms in place of what used to be gender-separated boys and girls rooms. Then no one can complain.
Like I said, I don't think a third unisex bathroom is a bad idea in and of itself. But I don't think it's a solution to the topic we're discussing.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Rachel9 wrote:
And what about men who lose their ***** in an accident or something? That is certainly not the standard we go by. Or are you arguing that such people shouldn't use the men's bathroom either?
Yea, I figured this would be your argument, but men who lose their penises in tragic accidents aren't asking to use the ladies' bathroom, nor are women lobbying that they should for whatever imagined reason.
Rachel9 wrote:
The sky's color changes all the time. But when it's blue, it's blue. When it's black, it's black. It may not be 10 minutes later, and it may not have been 10 minutes prior, but at any given time, it is what it is.
Well that's true, but that's also a measurable physical difference. A male doesn't have a *****, then not have a *****, then have a ***** again because he hopes really, really hard (>.>). What you are suggesting is exactly what Joph originally argued against - everyone doing whatever the @#%^ they want just because.
Edited, Mar 11th 2013 2:23pm by Torrence
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