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#52 Mar 08 2013 at 11:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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If I speak up because I get paid less than my male counterpart am I just a feminist **** looking to be offended?

Gearbox should adjust the drop rates so Sirens get 70% as much loot as the male characters Smiley: thumbsup
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If my daughter isn't given the same level of instruction as my son in science and math classes, should i just wave it off?

Given recent trends in college drop out rates, you should be more concerned your sons.
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#54 Mar 08 2013 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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I can't see it there either. Mario Bros. doesn't seem anymore offensive than any run-of-the-mill Disney movie that my daughters watch

Good example, what could possibly be offensive about ::Open Credits...Orphaned Girl is sad and put into peril then rescued by rich man she falls instantly in love with...7 mediocre show tunes...ethic stereotype animal...Close Credits::

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 12:56pm by Smasharoo


And they market them to girls no less. What's this world coming to?

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If my daughter isn't given the same level of instruction as my son in science and math classes, should i just wave it off?
Yes. Your daughter is probably smarter than your son and doesn't need as much instruction.


Or your daughter figures she can just **** her way to a diploma.




I have no idea how old your daughter is by the way, so please don't hate me for the example.
Doesn't matter how old she is, it's an incredibly stupid example.

Are teachers also using this incredibly stupid reason to withhold instruction from female students. Why teach if them if you can just fuck them?

Ya know, on second thought, if this is at all indicative of the mind-set of gamers then their is a problem

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 7:01pm by Elinda
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If I speak up because I get paid less than my male counterpart am I just a feminist **** looking to be offended?

Gearbox should adjust the drop rates so Sirens get 70% as much loot as the male characters Smiley: thumbsup

That might keep you guys from rolling female toons.
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If my daughter isn't given the same level of instruction as my son in science and math classes, should i just wave it off?

Given recent trends in college drop out rates, you should be more concerned your sons.
My son is a statistic. He dropped out of college. My daughter finished.
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Good example, what could possibly be offensive about ::Open Credits...Orphaned boy is sad and put into peril then rescued by rich bear he falls instantly in love with...7 mediocre show tunes...ethnic stereotype animal...Close Credits::
Jungle Book. Smiley: smile
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#59 Mar 08 2013 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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Feminism in video games is one thing. Feminism in life is all together another matter.


A person is just a story they tell themself. There is no difference.

Also, a quadruple post? Really?

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 6:47pm by Kavekk
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Unfair postism. Smiley: mad
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Why teach if them if you can just fuck them?

I have that cross-stitched on a pillow in my living room.
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Feminism in video games is one thing. Feminism in life is all together another matter.


A person is just a story they tell themself. There is no difference.

Also, a quadruple post? Really?

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 6:47pm by Kavekk
One handed, while talking on the cell phone.

It was 4 different thoughts and/or replies to others.

Funny such things are noticed and noted.
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Why teach if them if you can just fuck them?

I have that cross-stitched on a pillow in my living room.
I hope you fixed the typo.

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Funny such things are noticed and noted.


Hilarious.
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Elinda wrote:
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Feminism in video games is one thing. Feminism in life is all together another matter.


A person is just a story they tell themself. There is no difference.

Also, a quadruple post? Really?

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 6:47pm by Kavekk
One handed, while talking on the cell phone.

It was 4 different thoughts and/or replies to others.

Funny such things are noticed and noted.
Careful. Alma got a temp mute for this same thing. mind you, his was 4x posting was intentional and regular...

Quick Alma! Cry out about favourtism!
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Leave it to Ugly to mess up my streak. Smiley: bah

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 8:33pm by Elinda
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Where is your god now?


Making sure that women are oppressed somewhere is my guess.
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Sure, blame me when there was 2 posts before me breaking it up, with one specifically stating it was a combo breaker.

Blame the Canuck!
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My dog ate it.
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Blame the Canuck!
Just the women ones.
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Just the women ones.


I think they call them "She-Mounties".
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No, because then it sounds like their only job is to get mounted.
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They have to give blow jobs and make sandwiches.
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Lol, I get it now. It was four sleestacks in a row that freaked you guys out. That is pretty intimidating.

Must be time for Righteous Serra.
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Someone needs to make a 23 minute feminist rant about this thread, preferably while wearing a bikini.
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If you insist.
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Lacking depth?
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Must be time for Righteous Serra.

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If you insist.

I do.

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TL;DR While there is some legitimate cause for concern, a lot of times people are looking to be offended and get off on getting angry.

This is feminism in a nutshell as far as I can tell.
Feminism in video games is one thing. Feminism in life is all together another matter.

If I speak up because I get paid less than my male counterpart am I just a feminist **** looking to be offended?

If my daughter isn't given the same level of instruction as my son in science and math classes, should i just wave it off?

The first question should not be "Is this because {insert feminist rhetoric here}?", but rather the simple question of why are two individuals being treated differently.

I'd wager that more often than not the answer is because they are different people, and not, as a lot of feminists would like to believe, because they are different genders.

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 4:28pm by cidbahamut
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Wow. Cid just made me realize that dicrimination doesn't exist! Smiley: rolleyes
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I don't deny the existence of discrimination, I just take issue with feminism. It gets old real **** fast.
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I think RDM's neurotic omniscience is sooooooo worth including in any alliance.
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Wow. Cid just made me realize that dicrimination doesn't exist! Smiley: rolleyes

Because no other situation is enough like the current one to warrant an accurate comparison anyway. Everyone is so unique and there's such a diversity of situations there's just not enough relevant situations to compare, making any extension of data tenuous at best.

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I don't deny the existence of discrimination, I just take issue with feminism women complaining about discrimination. It gets old real @#%^in' fast.


Mhmm...

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I don't deny the existence of discrimination, I just take issue with feminism. It gets old real @#%^in' fast.


I agree. So lets close the gender wage gap and stop objectifying women. Win/win!
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I'd put together a long post about this but it makes me really angry and takes some of the joy out of videogames for me.
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I don't deny the existence of discrimination, I just take issue with feminism. It gets old real @#%^in' fast.


I agree. So lets close the gender wage gap and stop objectifying women. Win/win!

OMG WAR ON MEN! Smiley: mad

On the subject of feminism in videogames the thread title got me thinking about a stereotypical role-reversed video game. Something where the female protagonist goes out of her way to save some male character, love interest, kind of thing. Then I remembered my kids have been really into WALL-E lately, and the wife just finished ranting about how incompetent WALL-E is and how those kinds of men bug her to no end. Suddenly something that seemed like an interesting concept in my mind went up in smoke. Smiley: lol
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I don't deny the existence of discrimination, I just take issue with feminism. It gets old real @#%^in' fast.


I agree. So lets close the gender wage gap and stop objectifying women. Win/win!

Sounds good, let's do it.
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I'd wager that more often than not the answer is because they are different people, and not, as a lot of feminists would like to believe, because they are different genders.

Edited, Mar 8th 2013 4:28pm by cidbahamut

They are different people.

And when you average out all the wages of all the different people at all the different education levels, women earn about 70% of what men do (in the US) across the board.

This is fact.

You can argue about why they make less; Maybe they don't work at jobs that are worth as much. Maybe they have to take time out of their ladder climbing to have babies. Maybe they're even paid less simply because they have boobs. But to simply declare that the whole deal is made up by feminists is stupid...and sexist.
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